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EMERGENCY!!!

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mbenzo300td
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03-18-2010, 09:48 PM #1
om603 Car starts at WOT after taking apart the shut off lever. I had to rip out the fuel lines to shut it off. Any insight?
mbenzo300td
03-18-2010, 09:48 PM #1

om603 Car starts at WOT after taking apart the shut off lever. I had to rip out the fuel lines to shut it off. Any insight?

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
03-18-2010, 11:07 PM #2
The shut off lever controls the rod that rotates the barrels and casues the fuel to decrease it is the opposite of applying the throttle, it must be related to what you did with the lever. Have you tried reverse what you did initially?


If you cut off the air flow to the engine, i.e. block the turbo inlet, the engine should also die.

I could be wrong, but that is what I would do...go back to the begining

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
03-18-2010, 11:07 PM #2

The shut off lever controls the rod that rotates the barrels and casues the fuel to decrease it is the opposite of applying the throttle, it must be related to what you did with the lever. Have you tried reverse what you did initially?


If you cut off the air flow to the engine, i.e. block the turbo inlet, the engine should also die.

I could be wrong, but that is what I would do...go back to the begining


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

ForcedInduction
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03-19-2010, 07:30 AM #3
Remove the actuator and reinstall it. You didn't hook the end into the slot.
ForcedInduction
03-19-2010, 07:30 AM #3

Remove the actuator and reinstall it. You didn't hook the end into the slot.

mbenzo300td
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03-19-2010, 01:25 PM #4
Is there any chance I could have jammed something into place and will still have a runaway pump once everthing is installed correctly? Some other concerns are seeing the sparks I saw coming from the hotside and the little puddle of oil now sitting on the water pulp.
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mbenzo300td
03-19-2010, 01:25 PM #4

Is there any chance I could have jammed something into place and will still have a runaway pump once everthing is installed correctly? Some other concerns are seeing the sparks I saw coming from the hotside and the little puddle of oil now sitting on the water pulp.

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ForcedInduction
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3,628
03-19-2010, 04:56 PM #5
(03-18-2010, 09:48 PM)mbenzo300td om603 Car starts at WOT after taking apart the shut off lever.

That is the cause. Reinstall the shutoff actuator correctly.
ForcedInduction
03-19-2010, 04:56 PM #5

(03-18-2010, 09:48 PM)mbenzo300td om603 Car starts at WOT after taking apart the shut off lever.

That is the cause. Reinstall the shutoff actuator correctly.

mbenzo300td
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03-19-2010, 10:05 PM #6
Took out the vacuum pod tosday and put it all back together correctly. Car still wants to go to WOT and shut off wont shut it down. although it is working properly. When the key shuts off the lever falls. Any ideas?
Took out the vacuum pod tosday and put it all back together correctly. Car still wants to go to WOT and shut off wont shut it down. although it is working properly. When the key shuts off the lever falls. Any ideas?
This post was last modified: 03-19-2010, 10:19 PM by mbenzo300td.
mbenzo300td
03-19-2010, 10:05 PM #6

Took out the vacuum pod tosday and put it all back together correctly. Car still wants to go to WOT and shut off wont shut it down. although it is working properly. When the key shuts off the lever falls. Any ideas?


Took out the vacuum pod tosday and put it all back together correctly. Car still wants to go to WOT and shut off wont shut it down. although it is working properly. When the key shuts off the lever falls. Any ideas?

gsxr
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03-23-2010, 09:26 AM #7
Sounds like the rack is jammed open. Time to remove the rack cover and see if it moves smoothly and easily... could be something got stuck when the shutoff pod was installed incorrectly. (??)

Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA

1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
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gsxr
03-23-2010, 09:26 AM #7

Sounds like the rack is jammed open. Time to remove the rack cover and see if it moves smoothly and easily... could be something got stuck when the shutoff pod was installed incorrectly. (??)


Dave M.
Boise, ID, USA

1997 E420 - 149kmi (Bugeyes)
1994 E420 - 136kmi (Blondie)
1994 E500 - 116kmi (Q-ship)
1992 500E - 179kmi (Mach 5)
1987 300D - 330kmi (Sportline Stage 2)
Click here for my website!

mbenzo300td
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03-26-2010, 12:15 AM #8
Alright, took the side cover off of the ip and mooved the rack back and foth, however, every time I moved the rack the shut of lever would also move up and down. Is this normal. Also rack moves back and forth but nut what I would call nice and smooth. Moves towards the rear of the car fine and seems so not spring back to its return position. Is there a method to lubing it up?
mbenzo300td
03-26-2010, 12:15 AM #8

Alright, took the side cover off of the ip and mooved the rack back and foth, however, every time I moved the rack the shut of lever would also move up and down. Is this normal. Also rack moves back and forth but nut what I would call nice and smooth. Moves towards the rear of the car fine and seems so not spring back to its return position. Is there a method to lubing it up?

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
03-26-2010, 08:16 AM #9
When I first recieved my M-pump the action was a little sticky. I cleaned it by spraying with a penetrent/degreaser, after working it back and forth and spraying some more it eventually worked itself free.

The stop lever is connected to the shaft and it will move as the shaft moves. It looks as though you removed the lever in another pic I saw regarding this issue, maybe it was out in a bind upon reinstallation?

I always start at square one and move forward, that usually reveals the issue.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
03-26-2010, 08:16 AM #9

When I first recieved my M-pump the action was a little sticky. I cleaned it by spraying with a penetrent/degreaser, after working it back and forth and spraying some more it eventually worked itself free.

The stop lever is connected to the shaft and it will move as the shaft moves. It looks as though you removed the lever in another pic I saw regarding this issue, maybe it was out in a bind upon reinstallation?

I always start at square one and move forward, that usually reveals the issue.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

mbenzo300td
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03-26-2010, 01:34 PM #10
Would there be any problem with running the car with the ip side cover removed?
mbenzo300td
03-26-2010, 01:34 PM #10

Would there be any problem with running the car with the ip side cover removed?

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
03-26-2010, 07:02 PM #11
Just a little oil spillage...

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
03-26-2010, 07:02 PM #11

Just a little oil spillage...


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

mbenzo300td
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03-28-2010, 09:22 PM #12
Fived It!!!! Thank you fellas.
mbenzo300td
03-28-2010, 09:22 PM #12

Fived It!!!! Thank you fellas.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
03-28-2010, 09:23 PM #13
What did you figure it was caused by?

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
03-28-2010, 09:23 PM #13

What did you figure it was caused by?


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

mbenzo300td
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03-31-2010, 02:23 AM #14
Somehow I managed to get the shut off valve tab on the other side of the rack forching it open. I still dont know how I did it because it was hard to correct. One thing I did notice though is when putting the alda back on with the engine running the idle would drop. Is this normal? I was under the impression that it only activated under hard acelleration.
mbenzo300td
03-31-2010, 02:23 AM #14

Somehow I managed to get the shut off valve tab on the other side of the rack forching it open. I still dont know how I did it because it was hard to correct. One thing I did notice though is when putting the alda back on with the engine running the idle would drop. Is this normal? I was under the impression that it only activated under hard acelleration.

Rudolf_Diesel
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579
03-31-2010, 07:15 AM #15
The ALDA will limit fuel at idle to eliminate smoke under low boost conditions. When you are under boost conditions the ALDA will lift off of the plunger and allow more fuel, so the short answer is YES.

1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
03-31-2010, 07:15 AM #15

The ALDA will limit fuel at idle to eliminate smoke under low boost conditions. When you are under boost conditions the ALDA will lift off of the plunger and allow more fuel, so the short answer is YES.


1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects

1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98

Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.

 
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