STD Tuning Drivetrain 4 speed manual rebuild parts?

4 speed manual rebuild parts?

4 speed manual rebuild parts?

 
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PaulH
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08-27-2008, 11:17 PM #1
So, I scored a 4 speed from a 300d euro at the junkyard today, along with the pedal setup, shifter and front drive axle assembly, someone had previously pulled the engine, so it was basically just sitting there on the ground for me! It appears to shift through the gears just fine, but it had 170k on it, and I'd like to give the trans a good once over before i go installing it into my wagon. Question is, where can i get rebuild parts for this thing? I'm thinking at most it'll need some fresh bearings, but all the online sites don't seem to show that stuff, presumably since the manuals are so uncommon here in the US. Another question is clutches, is $300 really the best price for a 240d clutch kit Confusedhock: thats gonna cost me twice what I paid for the trans!

Paul
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PaulH
08-27-2008, 11:17 PM #1

So, I scored a 4 speed from a 300d euro at the junkyard today, along with the pedal setup, shifter and front drive axle assembly, someone had previously pulled the engine, so it was basically just sitting there on the ground for me! It appears to shift through the gears just fine, but it had 170k on it, and I'd like to give the trans a good once over before i go installing it into my wagon. Question is, where can i get rebuild parts for this thing? I'm thinking at most it'll need some fresh bearings, but all the online sites don't seem to show that stuff, presumably since the manuals are so uncommon here in the US. Another question is clutches, is $300 really the best price for a 240d clutch kit Confusedhock: thats gonna cost me twice what I paid for the trans!

Paul

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ForcedInduction
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08-28-2008, 05:06 AM #2
Get the EPC and you can have all the diagrams and part numbers for everything inside the tranny.
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At 170k miles, its likely still in good condition unless its got water contamination. I doubt it would need more than the 2nd and/or 3rd gear synchros to get nearly-new performance out of it.

$300-350 is about where its at for a clutch kit. Watch eBay, rare deals come along. I got my clutch and pressure plate for $25 on eBay. Big Grin

Don't forget, you need the complete driveshaft assembly, not just the front stub!
ForcedInduction
08-28-2008, 05:06 AM #2

Get the EPC and you can have all the diagrams and part numbers for everything inside the tranny.
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At 170k miles, its likely still in good condition unless its got water contamination. I doubt it would need more than the 2nd and/or 3rd gear synchros to get nearly-new performance out of it.

$300-350 is about where its at for a clutch kit. Watch eBay, rare deals come along. I got my clutch and pressure plate for $25 on eBay. Big Grin

Don't forget, you need the complete driveshaft assembly, not just the front stub!

winmutt
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08-28-2008, 08:49 AM #3
I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-28-2008, 08:49 AM #3

I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

PaulH
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08-28-2008, 10:02 AM #4
winmutt I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!

unfortunately I didn't, somebody had removed the engine (with a cutting torch :roll: ) and they took the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate with em. As for the driveshaft, I do need the whole thing? I'm installing this in a wagon, so i presumed that even if the rear shaft was different, it wouldnt help since the wagons are longer, did I think wrong?

Paul
PaulH
08-28-2008, 10:02 AM #4

winmutt I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!

unfortunately I didn't, somebody had removed the engine (with a cutting torch :roll: ) and they took the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate with em. As for the driveshaft, I do need the whole thing? I'm installing this in a wagon, so i presumed that even if the rear shaft was different, it wouldnt help since the wagons are longer, did I think wrong?

Paul

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-28-2008, 10:24 AM #5
PaulH
winmutt I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!

unfortunately I didn't, somebody had removed the engine (with a cutting torch :roll: ) and they took the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate with em. As for the driveshaft, I do need the whole thing? I'm installing this in a wagon, so i presumed that even if the rear shaft was different, it wouldnt help since the wagons are longer, did I think wrong?

Paul
All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-28-2008, 10:24 AM #5

PaulH
winmutt I ghetto source my friction disks at the junkyard. Did you get the fly wheel? Go back! Get the fly wheel!

unfortunately I didn't, somebody had removed the engine (with a cutting torch :roll: ) and they took the flywheel/clutch/pressure plate with em. As for the driveshaft, I do need the whole thing? I'm installing this in a wagon, so i presumed that even if the rear shaft was different, it wouldnt help since the wagons are longer, did I think wrong?

Paul
All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

PaulH
Naturally-aspirated

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08-28-2008, 10:46 AM #6
winmutt All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.

ok, cool, so now its just down to tracking down a flywheel and reasonably priced clutch. I actually found a cheap clutch kit on ebay.de (120 euro or so) but they wont ship to the US of course.

Paul
PaulH
08-28-2008, 10:46 AM #6

winmutt All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.

ok, cool, so now its just down to tracking down a flywheel and reasonably priced clutch. I actually found a cheap clutch kit on ebay.de (120 euro or so) but they wont ship to the US of course.

Paul

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-28-2008, 01:11 PM #7
PaulH
winmutt All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.

ok, cool, so now its just down to tracking down a flywheel and reasonably priced clutch. I actually found a cheap clutch kit on ebay.de (120 euro or so) but they wont ship to the US of course.

Paul
depedning on how cheap you want to go, car-part.com might do the trick.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-28-2008, 01:11 PM #7

PaulH
winmutt All you need is the front half, the wagon is the exact same length.

ok, cool, so now its just down to tracking down a flywheel and reasonably priced clutch. I actually found a cheap clutch kit on ebay.de (120 euro or so) but they wont ship to the US of course.

Paul
depedning on how cheap you want to go, car-part.com might do the trick.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

ForcedInduction
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08-29-2008, 04:27 AM #8
If you don't get the entire driveshaft you will have to get the new assembly rebalanced.
ForcedInduction
08-29-2008, 04:27 AM #8

If you don't get the entire driveshaft you will have to get the new assembly rebalanced.

PaulH
Naturally-aspirated

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08-31-2008, 11:55 PM #9
winmutt depedning on how cheap you want to go, car-part.com might do the trick.

I hadn't thought of that, looks like there are some reasonably priced flywheels at least, some say they come with clutches too! What year 240d's should I be shooting for here?

Paul
PaulH
08-31-2008, 11:55 PM #9

winmutt depedning on how cheap you want to go, car-part.com might do the trick.

I hadn't thought of that, looks like there are some reasonably priced flywheels at least, some say they come with clutches too! What year 240d's should I be shooting for here?

Paul

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
09-02-2008, 12:18 PM #10
Any W123 so 78 and up. W115 may work as well, same trans.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
09-02-2008, 12:18 PM #10

Any W123 so 78 and up. W115 may work as well, same trans.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

 
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