STD Tuning Engine Gasser conversion, remove CIS fuel pump?

Gasser conversion, remove CIS fuel pump?

Gasser conversion, remove CIS fuel pump?

 
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HughF_UK
GT2256V

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08-06-2010, 07:28 AM #1
So I got thinking last night, when I swap the petrol engine out for the 606, I'm going to need to remove the CIS pressure pump that's under the boot floor area..... or am I?

I've always thought an electric pre-pump would be a good idea for bleeding fuel through to the IP, but I guess that the CIS pump being about 60psi+ would be too high pressure to feed straight into the M series pump. Perhaps I should feed a standard fuel pressure regulator with it, then dump the return into the return line?

I know the P series cummins pumps seem to like a high fuel input pressure, what is the general concencus about this on the M series pumps?

Cheers all,

Hugh
HughF_UK
08-06-2010, 07:28 AM #1

So I got thinking last night, when I swap the petrol engine out for the 606, I'm going to need to remove the CIS pressure pump that's under the boot floor area..... or am I?

I've always thought an electric pre-pump would be a good idea for bleeding fuel through to the IP, but I guess that the CIS pump being about 60psi+ would be too high pressure to feed straight into the M series pump. Perhaps I should feed a standard fuel pressure regulator with it, then dump the return into the return line?

I know the P series cummins pumps seem to like a high fuel input pressure, what is the general concencus about this on the M series pumps?

Cheers all,

Hugh

George3soccer
Holset

373
08-07-2010, 04:58 AM #2
In my application I removed the gas pumps and put in the diesel lines with the stock lift pump. But after doing that spoke with a few other diesel gurus and they said that I should have left one pump on the line to the ip.
George3soccer
08-07-2010, 04:58 AM #2

In my application I removed the gas pumps and put in the diesel lines with the stock lift pump. But after doing that spoke with a few other diesel gurus and they said that I should have left one pump on the line to the ip.

Tymbrymi
Klatta Klatta

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08-11-2010, 09:47 AM #3
(08-07-2010, 04:58 AM)George3soccer But after doing that spoke with a few other diesel gurus and they said that I should have left one pump on the line to the ip.

That's my plan... I've got a gasser parts wagon that I'm going to take the CIS pump off of and put on my wagon when the time comes.

John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!! Angel
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way! Undecided
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
Tymbrymi
08-11-2010, 09:47 AM #3

(08-07-2010, 04:58 AM)George3soccer But after doing that spoke with a few other diesel gurus and they said that I should have left one pump on the line to the ip.

That's my plan... I've got a gasser parts wagon that I'm going to take the CIS pump off of and put on my wagon when the time comes.


John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!! Angel
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way! Undecided
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!

DervTuning
Unregistered

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08-11-2010, 11:23 AM #4
I suggest leaving it in, especially since you want to make some power.

In addition, the fuel pressure within the pump body will be determined by the pressure relief setting on the fuel outlet banjo bolt.

Having the electric pump also makes any injection pump work/swaps, setting BOD, and fuel filter changes a breeze.
DervTuning
08-11-2010, 11:23 AM #4

I suggest leaving it in, especially since you want to make some power.

In addition, the fuel pressure within the pump body will be determined by the pressure relief setting on the fuel outlet banjo bolt.

Having the electric pump also makes any injection pump work/swaps, setting BOD, and fuel filter changes a breeze.

HughF_UK
GT2256V

140
08-11-2010, 04:38 PM #5
It seemed to tick all the right boxes, leaving it in. Interestingly, ford fit an electric pre-pump to the 125hp mk6 transit with the vp44 pump. My 90hp mk6 with a vp37 doesn't have one...
HughF_UK
08-11-2010, 04:38 PM #5

It seemed to tick all the right boxes, leaving it in. Interestingly, ford fit an electric pre-pump to the 125hp mk6 transit with the vp44 pump. My 90hp mk6 with a vp37 doesn't have one...

 
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