go fast goodies?
go fast goodies?
hey im new to the mercedes diesels... down sizing for a little fun from my cummins. i jsut got a 79 300d what are some places i can go to for some upgrades in the fuel system and what sixe flange does the exhasut have? sorry for being a pain in the ass jsut wanna learn!
If N/A, you would have to change the entire engine for a Turbo one before tuning, as the N/A engine isnt suitable for tuning up or adding a turbo to...
There are no 'goodies' specific as such available, Its more down to adjustments and modifications....
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Alastair E
09-07-2010, 06:21 AM #2Is this a N/A car or a Turbo....?
If N/A, you would have to change the entire engine for a Turbo one before tuning, as the N/A engine isnt suitable for tuning up or adding a turbo to...
There are no 'goodies' specific as such available, Its more down to adjustments and modifications....
ForcedInduction
09-07-2010, 06:25 AM
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There is nothing to upgrade on your engine except swapping with a turbo engine.
George3soccer
09-07-2010, 11:07 AM #6Everything pretty much is fabrication, not very tough but there is allot of information available on this forum.
And IIRC the mercedes turbo is a T3 flange, but i'm not positive. And to answer your next question.... NO putting your old cummins turbo on this motor isn't a good idea, It wouldn't ever spool, and if you got it to, you'd pop the head right off. haha. Even the factory turbo motors have fairly high compression, close to 20:1 stock I believe. Where a 6BT is around 17:1
SicNick
09-07-2010, 12:54 PM #7Being a cummins Guy myself, maybe I can give you an analogy. My understanding of these motors so far is that they are similar to the 1st gen cummins IN THE AFTERMARKET SUPPORT category. There isn't a lot of extra horsepower to be bought. But a pretty decent amount to be found with custom modifications, turbo upgrades and tweeks, and of course, turning screws on the IP. There is far more information on the first few pages of this forum than you'd probably expect, especially for your motor ( assuming it is a OM617) As with any diesel, why don't you come up with pyro and boost gauge. Then maybe open up the exhaust post turbo and the intake? This will help to support and improve everything from here on up.
And IIRC the mercedes turbo is a T3 flange, but i'm not positive. And to answer your next question.... NO putting your old cummins turbo on this motor isn't a good idea, It wouldn't ever spool, and if you got it to, you'd pop the head right off. haha. Even the factory turbo motors have fairly high compression, close to 20:1 stock I believe. Where a 6BT is around 17:1
The only reason they are asking is because the 300d didn't get turbocharged until 1982
but the 300sd was turbocharged in 1978
but it is a very popular mod to put a turbo engine in a non turbo car
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-08-2010, 10:12 AM #11Is it a 300d or 300sd?
The only reason they are asking is because the 300d didn't get turbocharged until 1982
but the 300sd was turbocharged in 1978
but it is a very popular mod to put a turbo engine in a non turbo car
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
I put the latter k26 turbo from a 1985 300sd on my car and it helps low end torque quite a bit it but was causing some transmission flaring issues on my 1980 I had to mess with the trans adjustments to get it to stop!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-08-2010, 04:34 PM #13I would make sure all of your adjustments are in spec valves injectors and timing!
I put the latter k26 turbo from a 1985 300sd on my car and it helps low end torque quite a bit it but was causing some transmission flaring issues on my 1980 I had to mess with the trans adjustments to get it to stop!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
The turbo flange is the standard non-divided T3. Like willbhere4u said, making sure the maint is all up to spec is most important. Also make sure the boost line from the intake manifold to the ALDA is clear. From there, you can mess with adding an intercooler, gauges, exhaust, adjusting the fuel injection pump internals, etc. Watch out for going too big on the turbo, I put on a T3/T4 and it took quite a bit longer to build boost. The stock K26 was much better for around town and highway driving. The stock turbo (Garrett or K26), should be able to hold up to all that the stock injection pump can put out. But, leaving cars stock isn't much fun now, is it?
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
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