a motor that won't quit?
a motor that won't quit?
09-11-2010, 08:09 PM
#1
says it's a vacuum issue. And that seemed true enough.
Then I felt like the idle was rough and I tightened some of the throttle linkages. Now the idle is smoother but, even with the door locked the motor continues to run.
What is the course of action to diagnose and adjust this problem?
I also need some fog lights? Where can I order some cheapo ones online? All the bosch ones are really high $50+ each
And I need 1 fog light ring. Do those come with the lamps?
Here is a video of me revving up my benz. In case you haven't seen enough of those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEtTUBsqZL8
This post was last modified: 09-11-2010, 08:34 PM by larsalan.
Just bought my first diesel and the last owner says, "the motor will only stop if the driver's door is locked"
says it's a vacuum issue. And that seemed true enough.
Then I felt like the idle was rough and I tightened some of the throttle linkages. Now the idle is smoother but, even with the door locked the motor continues to run.
What is the course of action to diagnose and adjust this problem?
I also need some fog lights? Where can I order some cheapo ones online? All the bosch ones are really high $50+ each
And I need 1 fog light ring. Do those come with the lamps?
Here is a video of me revving up my benz. In case you haven't seen enough of those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEtTUBsqZL8
09-12-2010, 09:35 AM
#2
(09-11-2010, 08:09 PM)larsalan Just bought my first diesel and the last owner says, "the motor will only stop if the driver's door is locked"Isolate the door lock system and find the leaking actuator.
What is the course of action to diagnose and adjust this problem?
Quote:I also need some fog lights? Where can I order some cheapo ones online? All the bosch ones are really high $50+ eachThe fog lights use replaceable bulbs. Is the glass broken?
And I need 1 fog light ring. Do those come with the lamps?
ForcedInduction
09-12-2010, 09:35 AM
#2
(09-11-2010, 08:09 PM)larsalan Just bought my first diesel and the last owner says, "the motor will only stop if the driver's door is locked"Isolate the door lock system and find the leaking actuator.
What is the course of action to diagnose and adjust this problem?
Quote:I also need some fog lights? Where can I order some cheapo ones online? All the bosch ones are really high $50+ eachThe fog lights use replaceable bulbs. Is the glass broken?
And I need 1 fog light ring. Do those come with the lamps?
09-12-2010, 10:51 AM
#3
Yes the glass is broken. The car only came with one light and it's glass was broken. the other side is missing the ring and a screw that retains the ring. I saw some of those on ebay so I guess they are separate parts.
Today I have the front wheels off and see that the brakes are new and bearings are newly packed. There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
Thanks forced, I will look into how to work on the vacuum system.
Yes the glass is broken. The car only came with one light and it's glass was broken. the other side is missing the ring and a screw that retains the ring. I saw some of those on ebay so I guess they are separate parts.
Today I have the front wheels off and see that the brakes are new and bearings are newly packed. There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
09-12-2010, 11:26 AM
#4
(09-12-2010, 10:51 AM)larsalan There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
This post was last modified: 09-12-2010, 11:29 AM by ForcedInduction.
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09-12-2010, 11:26 AM
#4
(09-12-2010, 10:51 AM)larsalan There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
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09-12-2010, 03:44 PM
#5
(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 10:51 AM)larsalan There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-12-2010, 03:44 PM #5(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 10:51 AM)larsalan There seems to be a piece that has sheared off inside both dust caps. It looks like it was something to mix the grease? At any rate I have discarded it.
Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-12-2010, 07:17 PM
#6
(09-12-2010, 03:44 PM)Captain America WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
Yes. Public transit buses use the same idea but in a more crude "rubber strap dragging on the ground" form. The ones missing the strap get some kind of crystal crud buildup between the graffiti guards and windows.
ForcedInduction
09-12-2010, 07:17 PM
#6
(09-12-2010, 03:44 PM)Captain America WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
Yes. Public transit buses use the same idea but in a more crude "rubber strap dragging on the ground" form. The ones missing the strap get some kind of crystal crud buildup between the graffiti guards and windows.
09-12-2010, 09:09 PM
#7
meareweird
09-12-2010, 09:09 PM #7Based on your idling engine sounds i would do a diesel purge and/or seafoam to clean some deposits out and then see which injectors are nailing. Also how bad is your blowby and how many miles?
09-12-2010, 10:11 PM
#8
A reported fuel leak. Which I saw today, it's on the driver's side. There are three lines running fore to aft. I guess fuel and brake lines. I need to find out where the fuel is coming from and figure out how to stop that too. Mileage is anyones guess ass the odometer is not working says 174000 I think. I think the blowby seemed light but, the engine has never really got up to a higher temp. I read in the benz manual and it says not to just let the motor idle up to high temp. The manual says drive it around.
I might not even be able to look at it at all for a few days.
-thanks for all your input
I will put the purge on the to do list along with valve adjustment and turbo tuning. before that there are some pressing repairs in order.
A reported fuel leak. Which I saw today, it's on the driver's side. There are three lines running fore to aft. I guess fuel and brake lines. I need to find out where the fuel is coming from and figure out how to stop that too. Mileage is anyones guess ass the odometer is not working says 174000 I think. I think the blowby seemed light but, the engine has never really got up to a higher temp. I read in the benz manual and it says not to just let the motor idle up to high temp. The manual says drive it around.
I might not even be able to look at it at all for a few days.
-thanks for all your input
09-12-2010, 11:17 PM
#9
(09-12-2010, 07:17 PM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 03:44 PM)Captain America WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
Yes. Public transit buses use the same idea but in a more crude "rubber strap dragging on the ground" form. The ones missing the strap get some kind of crystal crud buildup between the graffiti guards and windows.
What does it do for a 123?
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-12-2010, 11:17 PM #9(09-12-2010, 07:17 PM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 03:44 PM)Captain America WTF? Really? I've never seen that before lol
Yes. Public transit buses use the same idea but in a more crude "rubber strap dragging on the ground" form. The ones missing the strap get some kind of crystal crud buildup between the graffiti guards and windows.
What does it do for a 123?
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-12-2010, 11:37 PM
#11
(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
Yeah I got that but who cares if a little static builds up? Is this used on newer vehicles? I have not seen anything...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-12-2010, 11:37 PM #11(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
Yeah I got that but who cares if a little static builds up? Is this used on newer vehicles? I have not seen anything...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-13-2010, 08:19 AM
#12
(09-12-2010, 11:17 PM)Captain America What does it do for a 123?
Reduces static crackle in the radio speakers and may help reduce electrolysis in the cooling system.
ForcedInduction
09-13-2010, 08:19 AM
#12
(09-12-2010, 11:17 PM)Captain America What does it do for a 123?
Reduces static crackle in the radio speakers and may help reduce electrolysis in the cooling system.
09-13-2010, 08:21 AM
#13
jonbobshinigin
09-13-2010, 08:21 AM #13No seafoam, at least do not run it through your vacuum system or manifold like on gassers.
09-13-2010, 12:51 PM
#14
I saw these two procedures to replace parts.
http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesmastervac...nstall.htm
http://dieselgiant.com/repairyourshutoffvalve.htm
There seems to be no problem with an other vacuum stuff, just the shut off.
I attached a bike pump to the vacuum system and heard the air escaping inside the motor.
Does that make sense to anyone?
So where should I start with the vacuum?
I saw these two procedures to replace parts.
http://dieselgiant.com/mercedesmastervac...nstall.htm
http://dieselgiant.com/repairyourshutoffvalve.htm
There seems to be no problem with an other vacuum stuff, just the shut off.
I attached a bike pump to the vacuum system and heard the air escaping inside the motor.
Does that make sense to anyone?
09-13-2010, 01:16 PM
#15
(09-13-2010, 08:19 AM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 11:17 PM)Captain America What does it do for a 123?
Reduces static crackle in the radio speakers and may help reduce electrolysis in the cooling system.
Oh baby!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-13-2010, 01:16 PM #15(09-13-2010, 08:19 AM)ForcedInduction(09-12-2010, 11:17 PM)Captain America What does it do for a 123?
Reduces static crackle in the radio speakers and may help reduce electrolysis in the cooling system.
Oh baby!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-13-2010, 01:24 PM
#16
ForcedInduction
09-13-2010, 01:24 PM
#16
Hey, maybe if we remove the ground contact would would have a built-in HHO generator!
09-13-2010, 01:42 PM
#17
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-13-2010, 01:42 PM #17Lmao!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
SicNick
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09-14-2010, 07:02 PM
#18
(09-12-2010, 11:37 PM)Captain America(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
Yeah I got that but who cares if a little static builds up? Is this used on newer vehicles? I have not seen anything...
Ya even the radio part was in his first post, in the caption of the picture.
Guess I should have been more specific.
SicNick
09-14-2010, 07:02 PM #18(09-12-2010, 11:37 PM)Captain America(09-12-2010, 11:26 AM)ForcedInduction Its the ground contact. It provides a continuous ground path to the wheels to prevent static buildup.
Yeah I got that but who cares if a little static builds up? Is this used on newer vehicles? I have not seen anything...
Ya even the radio part was in his first post, in the caption of the picture.
Guess I should have been more specific.
09-15-2010, 12:05 AM
#20
Disconnect all the vacuum lines except the brown and see if it shuts off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you put boost to the shutoff? why would you do that? it needs vacuum not pressure
Forced answered your question in post #2
This post was last modified: 09-15-2010, 12:08 AM by Captain America.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-15-2010, 12:05 AM #20I feel a little dumb now lol
Disconnect all the vacuum lines except the brown and see if it shuts off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you put boost to the shutoff? why would you do that? it needs vacuum not pressure
Forced answered your question in post #2
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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