New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D
New Project - Skunkwerks EM9D
(09-18-2010, 10:01 PM)Captain America(09-18-2010, 09:14 PM)willbhere4u Delivery Valve where did you get that pic a w123 with a hood prop is that from the factory?
Oh ya nice looking girl as well!
I'm guessing the same place these come from..
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-c...os-14.html
(09-18-2010, 10:01 PM)Captain America(09-18-2010, 09:14 PM)willbhere4u Delivery Valve where did you get that pic a w123 with a hood prop is that from the factory?
Oh ya nice looking girl as well!
I'm guessing the same place these come from..
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-c...os-14.html
The tree generally doesn't deliver a red light a red light if you LB3A. What I saw was you leave before him and then he got the LB3A which leads me to believe that he was handicapped by a second or two but he got antsy and left when he saw you go.
(09-19-2010, 05:13 PM)Rudolf_Diesel(09-19-2010, 05:07 PM)ForcedInductionI am not sure what happened, I am assuming "LB3A" means Left Before 3rd Amber, is that correct?(09-19-2010, 04:26 PM)E300TSC Was the 240SX guy handicapped? He got the LB3A but you clearly left before him... Cornfused...
Looks like he got red.
...
(09-19-2010, 05:35 PM)E300TSC The tree generally doesn't deliver a red light a red light if you LB3A. What I saw was you leave before him and then he got the LB3A which leads me to believe that he was handicapped by a second or two but he got antsy and left when he saw you go.
(09-19-2010, 05:13 PM)Rudolf_Diesel(09-19-2010, 05:07 PM)ForcedInductionI am not sure what happened, I am assuming "LB3A" means Left Before 3rd Amber, is that correct?(09-19-2010, 04:26 PM)E300TSC Was the 240SX guy handicapped? He got the LB3A but you clearly left before him... Cornfused...
Looks like he got red.
...
(09-19-2010, 05:35 PM)E300TSC The tree generally doesn't deliver a red light a red light if you LB3A. What I saw was you leave before him and then he got the LB3A which leads me to believe that he was handicapped by a second or two but he got antsy and left when he saw you go.
I did some experimentation today and I confirmed my suspicions - the S/C above 15 psi is actually becoming a restriction for feeding the turbo. I have been running all of my runs without using the bypass valves and been hitting a "wall". Today I disconnected the WOT switch so I could see if it made a difference and boy did it! The boost would level out out at 16 psi or so and the power would be flat with the S/C in the circuit, without the S/C after 14 psi it runs liked a striped ape! the boost climbs to about 25 in a heart beat and the power just keeps going!!! I wanted to try it yesterday, but wanted to see if I could improve on the times with the same setup.
This Thursday I will be at Irwindale to do some testing and see if it really makes a difference, I suspect it will.
I have watched all of your runs on youtube, and thought that you launched with such power then about a third of the way down the acceleration slows down. Your bypass discovery explains everything.
My guess is that you'll be puttin down 100mph+ passes now!
Been following the thread from the beginning and I've got to say.. #1 job Rudolf!!!
Sorry I haven't posted here for a while but I've still been here lurking and learning though.
It was a pleasure meeting you Rudolph and please thank your boys again for operating my video camera for me on my runs! Major props to them for the fine job they did recording the videos of our runs! I hate to ask but could you please post my last run of the night that you guys have on your camera over on my thread on MercedesShop? It would be cool to have both versions. Plus, I still haven't figured out how to do it from my camera. I'm kinda slow with this kind of stuff. I can do still pictures from my other camera though so there is always hope!
I have to ask though, how come the other guy here from Riverside didn't go to the track with us?
If anybody here has any interest in my adventures with my gasser Benz, you can read about it here at post number 158: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...ost2548031
As for those 500Es Rudolph, I'd be happy to have either one, even the not as clean one! It's faster!
And sorry I lobbied against you messing with the bypass, it's just that I was scared that you'd end up losing more than you would gain. Shows you how much I know. Now I feel like it is my fault that you didn't try it.
Regards, Eric
(09-19-2010, 04:26 PM)E300TSC Was the 240SX guy handicapped? He got the LB3A but you clearly left before him... Cornfused...The other car rolled into the beams too far. Could have pulled through the brakes when power braking, or let the clutch get too close to engagement if it was a manual tranny. So he got the LB3A, then actually left a second or two later. That's how he got the LB3A but launched after the 300SD.
Rudolf, what is your 7.5mm Floyd pump set at for fuel delivery? Have you had it on the dyno yet? Also, was the car smoking at all during your runs? If you were short on air supply but pushing a lot of fuel, it'd smoke, right...?
(09-19-2010, 04:26 PM)E300TSC Was the 240SX guy handicapped? He got the LB3A but you clearly left before him... Cornfused...The other car rolled into the beams too far. Could have pulled through the brakes when power braking, or let the clutch get too close to engagement if it was a manual tranny. So he got the LB3A, then actually left a second or two later. That's how he got the LB3A but launched after the 300SD.
(09-20-2010, 09:28 AM)gsxr Rudolf, what is your 7.5mm Floyd pump set at for fuel delivery? Have you had it on the dyno yet? Also, was the car smoking at all during your runs? If you were short on air supply but pushing a lot of fuel, it'd smoke, right...?
(09-20-2010, 09:28 AM)gsxr Rudolf, what is your 7.5mm Floyd pump set at for fuel delivery? Have you had it on the dyno yet? Also, was the car smoking at all during your runs? If you were short on air supply but pushing a lot of fuel, it'd smoke, right...?
(09-20-2010, 05:45 AM)400Eric Sorry I haven't posted here for a while but I've still been here lurking and learning though.
It was a pleasure meeting you Rudolph and please thank your boys again for operating my video camera for me on my runs! Major props to them for the fine job they did recording the videos of our runs! I hate to ask but could you please post my last run of the night that you guys have on your camera over on my thread on MercedesShop? It would be cool to have both versions. Plus, I still haven't figured out how to do it from my camera. I'm kinda slow with this kind of stuff. I can do still pictures from my other camera though so there is always hope!
I have to ask though, how come the other guy here from Riverside didn't go to the track with us?
If anybody here has any interest in my adventures with my gasser Benz, you can read about it here at post number 158: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...ost2548031
As for those 500Es Rudolph, I'd be happy to have either one, even the not as clean one!
And sorry I lobbied against you messing with the bypass, it's just that I was scared that you'd end up losing more than you would gain. Shows you how much I know. Now I feel like it is my fault that you didn't try it.
Regards, Eric
(09-20-2010, 05:45 AM)400Eric Sorry I haven't posted here for a while but I've still been here lurking and learning though.
It was a pleasure meeting you Rudolph and please thank your boys again for operating my video camera for me on my runs! Major props to them for the fine job they did recording the videos of our runs! I hate to ask but could you please post my last run of the night that you guys have on your camera over on my thread on MercedesShop? It would be cool to have both versions. Plus, I still haven't figured out how to do it from my camera. I'm kinda slow with this kind of stuff. I can do still pictures from my other camera though so there is always hope!
I have to ask though, how come the other guy here from Riverside didn't go to the track with us?
If anybody here has any interest in my adventures with my gasser Benz, you can read about it here at post number 158: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...ost2548031
As for those 500Es Rudolph, I'd be happy to have either one, even the not as clean one!
And sorry I lobbied against you messing with the bypass, it's just that I was scared that you'd end up losing more than you would gain. Shows you how much I know. Now I feel like it is my fault that you didn't try it.
Regards, Eric
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America(09-20-2010, 05:45 AM)400Eric Sorry I haven't posted here for a while but I've still been here lurking and learning though.
It was a pleasure meeting you Rudolph and please thank your boys again for operating my video camera for me on my runs! Major props to them for the fine job they did recording the videos of our runs! I hate to ask but could you please post my last run of the night that you guys have on your camera over on my thread on MercedesShop? It would be cool to have both versions. Plus, I still haven't figured out how to do it from my camera. I'm kinda slow with this kind of stuff. I can do still pictures from my other camera though so there is always hope!
I have to ask though, how come the other guy here from Riverside didn't go to the track with us?
If anybody here has any interest in my adventures with my gasser Benz, you can read about it here at post number 158: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...ost2548031
As for those 500Es Rudolph, I'd be happy to have either one, even the not as clean one!
And sorry I lobbied against you messing with the bypass, it's just that I was scared that you'd end up losing more than you would gain. Shows you how much I know. Now I feel like it is my fault that you didn't try it.
Regards, Eric
I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America(09-20-2010, 05:45 AM)400Eric Sorry I haven't posted here for a while but I've still been here lurking and learning though.
It was a pleasure meeting you Rudolph and please thank your boys again for operating my video camera for me on my runs! Major props to them for the fine job they did recording the videos of our runs! I hate to ask but could you please post my last run of the night that you guys have on your camera over on my thread on MercedesShop? It would be cool to have both versions. Plus, I still haven't figured out how to do it from my camera. I'm kinda slow with this kind of stuff. I can do still pictures from my other camera though so there is always hope!
I have to ask though, how come the other guy here from Riverside didn't go to the track with us?
If anybody here has any interest in my adventures with my gasser Benz, you can read about it here at post number 158: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...ost2548031
As for those 500Es Rudolph, I'd be happy to have either one, even the not as clean one!
And sorry I lobbied against you messing with the bypass, it's just that I was scared that you'd end up losing more than you would gain. Shows you how much I know. Now I feel like it is my fault that you didn't try it.
Regards, Eric
I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
(09-20-2010, 04:09 PM)Rudolf_Diesel(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
I posted I was going = open invitation
I will be at Irwindale this Thrusday - You are Hereby Cordially Invited to Join in the Festivites.....
Yeah I guess I did start it and the guy did have some extra ponies under the hood, that's for sure!
(09-20-2010, 04:09 PM)Rudolf_Diesel(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
I posted I was going = open invitation
I will be at Irwindale this Thrusday - You are Hereby Cordially Invited to Join in the Festivites.....
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
(09-21-2010, 03:15 AM)400Eric Rudolph, please tell me it's not my fault that you didn't try the S/C bypass on Sat. so I can sleep at night!
Also, please tell us when your compound blown kits are gonna hit the market!
Regards, Eric
(09-21-2010, 03:15 AM)400Eric Rudolph, please tell me it's not my fault that you didn't try the S/C bypass on Sat. so I can sleep at night!
Also, please tell us when your compound blown kits are gonna hit the market!
Regards, Eric
Do you one of those fiber optic cameras? I would love to see how the rubber flex discs react to the full power release on your runs. It would be interesting to see how much the torque flexes them before they transfer power!
Kind of like watching the rear tires on a funny car ripple on acceleration.
(09-21-2010, 03:15 AM)400Eric(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
I'm trying to copy/paste a picture of the likely suspect but it isn't working so I'll just link you to a page where the picture is: http://www.500ecstasy.com/forums//showth...al./page22 go down to posts 317 and/or 320. Was he a young looking guy with dark hair? I know it wasn't me cause I've only been driving my 89 300E cause my 400E was laid up while I did a few things to it and the E420 still just plain isn't ready for regular use yet.
(09-21-2010, 03:15 AM)400Eric(09-20-2010, 03:11 PM)Captain America I didnt get invited!!!! Tear Tear. Heart broken waaaaaaaaaa!
haha
Oh, And some dude tried to race me not this past weekend but the weekend before (9-11, 9-12) by my house in riverside. He was in a 500E? IDK, it was a bloody V8 and it sounded awesome! He was about to turn left at a light and I revved on him (I only have a down pipe at the moment so she gets heard) and he darted back out and chased me down and fuct my shit up. I couldn't even do anything! My full throttle was his like quarter throttle and he rolled the window down and I think he realized I was diesel and gave me a thumbs up hahaha
I'm trying to copy/paste a picture of the likely suspect but it isn't working so I'll just link you to a page where the picture is: http://www.500ecstasy.com/forums//showth...al./page22 go down to posts 317 and/or 320. Was he a young looking guy with dark hair? I know it wasn't me cause I've only been driving my 89 300E cause my 400E was laid up while I did a few things to it and the E420 still just plain isn't ready for regular use yet.
I've left him a post, we'll see if it's him.
If it is him, maybe you should bring the Sprint to the next track day and re-run him!
Regards, Eric
(09-22-2010, 04:17 AM)400Eric I've left him a post, we'll see if it's him.
If it is him, maybe you should bring the Sprint to the next track day and re-run him!
Regards, Eric
(09-22-2010, 04:17 AM)400Eric I've left him a post, we'll see if it's him.
If it is him, maybe you should bring the Sprint to the next track day and re-run him!
Regards, Eric
(09-23-2010, 12:38 AM)J-Sauce That was me! Man your diesel sounded mean when you revved. I'd be happy to give u a ride sometime if you want.
Sorry I'm jacking your thread Rudolf, Just for a sec though!
(09-23-2010, 12:38 AM)J-Sauce That was me! Man your diesel sounded mean when you revved. I'd be happy to give u a ride sometime if you want.
Hey Captain, didn't that Sprint come from the factory with a 12 bolt? Don't tell me a 12 bolt isn't up to a little boost?!?
Off the line, spinning is all the Sauceman's car does too! Should be a good race!
Regards, Eric
Yes it has the peg leg 12 bolt under it... Have you seen the video in my signature? Those are just a few of the retarded burnouts she's done, plus drifting (left hand drifts only). Idk man she just started howling on me when I would coast :-( she's getting a true track soon plus a new 450 horse small block ;-)
I went to the track last night, it is getting better and I need to do some fine tuning as far as when I wnat the bypass valve to open to get the best ET and MPH runs. I think it actually does better in the 1/4 as the turbo has a little more time to build power.
My best time for the night was 9.959 @ 69.17 MPH, I raced against a Ford Lightning and lost, but my times are what I am concerned about.
I also ran against a Nissan 240SX and My time was: 10.136 @ 69.26 - he ran 10.722 @ 62.91 - He was quite surprised
Yeah! much better than 10.2-3!!!
(09-24-2010, 09:18 AM)gsxr I assume this was an eighth-mile track...?
(09-24-2010, 09:18 AM)gsxr I assume this was an eighth-mile track...?
(09-24-2010, 11:46 AM)ConnClark(09-24-2010, 08:33 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I also ran against a Nissan 240SX and My time was: 10.136 @ 69.26 - he ran 10.722 @ 62.91 - He was quite surprised
Earning you another kill flag
(09-24-2010, 11:46 AM)ConnClark(09-24-2010, 08:33 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I also ran against a Nissan 240SX and My time was: 10.136 @ 69.26 - he ran 10.722 @ 62.91 - He was quite surprised
Earning you another kill flag
This is going to get me castrated by FI but anyways:
I'd suggest you try LPG (propane) route to spool up that turbo.
You don't need a lot, just the tiniest bit and it DOES help a lot with the turbo.
I see it with my car. With LPG turned off, the turbo is very lethargic (during daily driving). With LPG on it's completely another car.
(09-24-2010, 03:51 PM)Deni I see it with my car. With LPG turned off, the turbo is very lethargic (during daily driving). With LPG on it's completely another car.
(09-24-2010, 03:51 PM)Deni I see it with my car. With LPG turned off, the turbo is very lethargic (during daily driving). With LPG on it's completely another car.
(09-24-2010, 06:34 PM)Jtn190D Doesn't he already have the fuel turned up?
(09-24-2010, 06:34 PM)Jtn190D Doesn't he already have the fuel turned up?
Try to change the supercharger's pulley. The OEM one is too big, put some small one and that M90 will push 1-3 psi more air into the turbo, it might really help.
You are so hard core F.I.
That's one of the reasons why I love this site so much!
Regards, Eric
I think I have enough fuel, the 7.5mm elements put out 400% more fuel than the 5.5mm elements.
Now it is a matter of tuning and finding the right balance. I will look into a smaller pulley, but before I do that I will have look at my reserach notes and see what I am driving the pulley at now vs. stock. The original configuration had a smaller crank pulley driving a jackshaft pulley arrangement that drove the S/C. IIRC, I am overdriving the pulley with my current design.
As much fun as it is to drag race I never intended to build a drag car. I do not want to add any propane or nitrous as tempting as it is to get more power. I want to see what I can do with more fuel and air for now. If anything, I may add some water/denatured alcohol injection, I just need to assemble some parts for that.
What I may end up doing is swapping in 3.46 R&P to get a quicker launch for the 1/8th mile, but before I do that I want to see how it does in the 1/4 with the bypass configuration.
I would like to race couple of 300SD, 300D or 240D's to see how much faster this vehicle is compared to theirs...
What you could do is have 2 pressure switches:
1st switch will activate LPG at about 5psi
2nd switch will de-activate LPG at about 15-20psi
This way LPG is used only for brief periods of time and only to speed up the turbo.
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would like to race couple of 300SD, 300D or 240D's to see how much faster this vehicle is compared to theirs...
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I would like to race couple of 300SD, 300D or 240D's to see how much faster this vehicle is compared to theirs...
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel What I may end up doing is swapping in 3.46 R&P
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel What I may end up doing is swapping in 3.46 R&P
Save the 3.46s for when you do the 5 spd swap.
Regards, Eric
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I think I have enough fuel, the 7.5mm elements put out 400% more fuel than the 5.5mm elements.
Now it is a matter of tuning and finding the right balance. I will look into a smaller pulley, but before I do that I will have look at my reserach notes and see what I am driving the pulley at now vs. stock. The original configuration had a smaller crank pulley driving a jackshaft pulley arrangement that drove the S/C. IIRC, I am overdriving the pulley with my current design.
As much fun as it is to drag race I never intended to build a drag car. I do not want to add any propane or nitrous as tempting as it is to get more power. I want to see what I can do with more fuel and air for now. If anything, I may add some water/denatured alcohol injection, I just need to assemble some parts for that.
What I may end up doing is swapping in 3.46 R&P to get a quicker launch for the 1/8th mile, but before I do that I want to see how it does in the 1/4 with the bypass configuration.
I would like to race couple of 300SD, 300D or 240D's to see how much faster this vehicle is compared to theirs...
(09-25-2010, 09:44 AM)Rudolf_Diesel I think I have enough fuel, the 7.5mm elements put out 400% more fuel than the 5.5mm elements.
Now it is a matter of tuning and finding the right balance. I will look into a smaller pulley, but before I do that I will have look at my reserach notes and see what I am driving the pulley at now vs. stock. The original configuration had a smaller crank pulley driving a jackshaft pulley arrangement that drove the S/C. IIRC, I am overdriving the pulley with my current design.
As much fun as it is to drag race I never intended to build a drag car. I do not want to add any propane or nitrous as tempting as it is to get more power. I want to see what I can do with more fuel and air for now. If anything, I may add some water/denatured alcohol injection, I just need to assemble some parts for that.
What I may end up doing is swapping in 3.46 R&P to get a quicker launch for the 1/8th mile, but before I do that I want to see how it does in the 1/4 with the bypass configuration.
I would like to race couple of 300SD, 300D or 240D's to see how much faster this vehicle is compared to theirs...
Ask forced how my 240d turbo did against his car it was like 21 sec 1/4 mile at 62mph???? I need more fuel its still to slow!
Quote:I need more fuel its still to slow!I think the quad axle cement pumper truck was slower.
24.316@56.57mph 1/4 mile
Quote:I need more fuel its still to slow!I think the quad axle cement pumper truck was slower.
I finally put in a thermostat and replaced the upper radiator hose! And now that its not overheating at speeds above +75mph / running to cool below -70mph it feel like it has more power!
When I did that run I had a 1/8 vacuum/boost leak and turbo injectors that where nailing like caterpillar! once I fixed the boost leak and put the stock injectors back in it ran a lot beater
I could probably break 60mph in the 1/4 maybe even get it down in the low 20's with luck on my side
I still have a bad nailing at idle some times depending on what temp the engine is running and absolutely no smoke!
My next goal is to lengthen the spring on the lift pump and switch my return /feed lie to see if that helps with power
When the engine is cold it has almost not enough power to move! once it runs for 15min it starts moving pretty good!
Done compression yet? You can borrow mine, it tests at the glowplug hole.
I'm going to see about building a leakdown tester this week. Not a full on 0-100% type but enough to hear where airflow is going.
I have the injector compression test adapter just no gauge yet! I may hit you up on that one of these weekends!
Sorry for hijacking Rudolf!
(09-26-2010, 09:27 PM)ForcedInduction Done compression yet? You can borrow mine, it tests at the glowplug hole.
I'm going to see about building a leakdown tester this week. Not a full on 0-100% type but enough to hear where airflow is going.
(09-26-2010, 09:27 PM)ForcedInduction Done compression yet? You can borrow mine, it tests at the glowplug hole.
I'm going to see about building a leakdown tester this week. Not a full on 0-100% type but enough to hear where airflow is going.
I believe the man was building a gate....
How does building a gate make the car faster? I mean really, let's get our priorities straight!
Regards, Eric