Found on Jalopnik. Drifting W123 Wagon
Found on Jalopnik. Drifting W123 Wagon
09-23-2010, 11:15 PM
#2
(09-23-2010, 08:15 AM)MadMaxW126 http://jalopnik.com/5644267/building-a-d...rift-racer
Cool Thanks for the link!
Quote:Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
By Ben Wojdyla
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift RacerTeemu Peltola is a Finnish drift racer. In his second competitive year he's built one of the most unique cars ever to enter the series, a diesel-powered 1981 Mercedes station wagon. He's also taken time to tell us about it.
When we included video of Peltola doing his thing in a badass Mercedes-Benz Station wagon in our list of Ten Awesome Drift Videos, we didn't think we'd be getting an email from the guy.
However, apparently Jalopnik's kind of a big deal in Finland and he heard about our coverage so now we can tell you all about this mad man and his mad Benz.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Peltola likes drifting. He's also quite good at it. 2009 was his first year of racing in the Extreme Drift Challenge — he won his class. In his second year he headed for the Pro class and decided he needed a new car and just another built-up Japanese racer wouldn't do. See, Peltola's a Mercedes man and a bit of a builder. He tells us "First of all, I thought to build a Supra IV with a Mercedes diesel engine, but I didn't want to do that because everyone is driving Japanese cars, of course it would have been easier to build from a Japanese car because you can get much more aftermarket parts for them."
But that didn't stop him, he says, "I really wanted to build a w123 wagon, but is there any sense to build a car where you can't really use anything original? The answer is NO, but I really wanted to do a good drifting car from a w123 wagon, so I decided to do it!!" When he found this unassuming 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D Estate, the game was on.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Rather than stick with the stock 3.0-liter diesel from 1981, Peltola picked up a 3.0-liter 24-valve diesel from a 1998 Mercedes E-class. With that as a starting point, he fabricated a new intake manifold, installed a much bigger Garrett GT40 turbo from a Scania heavy truck pushing 36 PSI, a new diesel pump and home-made intercooler. A bell housing adapter was made to fit a Tremec TKO 600 transmission to the engine and power was routed to a Mercedes rear axle. Unfortunately that axle didn't survive the first race, so now there's an Toyota Aristo rear axle (Lexus GS to US readers) fitted.
Don't think for a second that's the end of the insane hackery here. The factory suspension was in no way up to the task of drifting, so the rear suspension from a Mazda RX8 modified with coil overs was fitted. According to Peltola, "The hardest was to fit whole Aristo front axle, I think I worked 2 or 3 weeks with it," he said, "Mounting the rear axle was not so hard, but it took some hours too." Steering comes from salvaged Volvo parts and lend a nearly sickening turning angle.
The result is The Diesel Drifter. One of the baddest mad wagons ever. Power? Well "I have not had it on a dyno, but last year I drove a Mercedes Benz 190 (W201) with an OM603, 3.0 12-valve turbodiesel and it made 414-hp and 704Nm (520 lb-ft). So maybe I have like 450Hp and 750Nm (553 lb-ft). But I have plans to build it with two turbos, so I will get more power, I hope it will go to 500hp and 850Nm (626 lb-ft)." We like those plans.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
So far Peltola's been competing strong in the Pro class, though it's a fair bit tougher than his last go-round. He's finished well in the middle to the top of the pack, placing as high as 3rd, at the X-treme Pro Drifting Trophy, but for now, he's just sorting his car and getting used to the big leagues. When we asked what his competition thinks of his bitchin' new ride, Peltola only says "I dont know, maybe I'll have to ask!"
Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
..
This post was last modified: 09-23-2010, 11:19 PM by DeliveryValve.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
09-23-2010, 11:15 PM #2(09-23-2010, 08:15 AM)MadMaxW126 http://jalopnik.com/5644267/building-a-d...rift-racer
Cool Thanks for the link!
Quote:Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
By Ben Wojdyla
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift RacerTeemu Peltola is a Finnish drift racer. In his second competitive year he's built one of the most unique cars ever to enter the series, a diesel-powered 1981 Mercedes station wagon. He's also taken time to tell us about it.
When we included video of Peltola doing his thing in a badass Mercedes-Benz Station wagon in our list of Ten Awesome Drift Videos, we didn't think we'd be getting an email from the guy.
However, apparently Jalopnik's kind of a big deal in Finland and he heard about our coverage so now we can tell you all about this mad man and his mad Benz.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Peltola likes drifting. He's also quite good at it. 2009 was his first year of racing in the Extreme Drift Challenge — he won his class. In his second year he headed for the Pro class and decided he needed a new car and just another built-up Japanese racer wouldn't do. See, Peltola's a Mercedes man and a bit of a builder. He tells us "First of all, I thought to build a Supra IV with a Mercedes diesel engine, but I didn't want to do that because everyone is driving Japanese cars, of course it would have been easier to build from a Japanese car because you can get much more aftermarket parts for them."
But that didn't stop him, he says, "I really wanted to build a w123 wagon, but is there any sense to build a car where you can't really use anything original? The answer is NO, but I really wanted to do a good drifting car from a w123 wagon, so I decided to do it!!" When he found this unassuming 1981 Mercedes-Benz 300D Estate, the game was on.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
Rather than stick with the stock 3.0-liter diesel from 1981, Peltola picked up a 3.0-liter 24-valve diesel from a 1998 Mercedes E-class. With that as a starting point, he fabricated a new intake manifold, installed a much bigger Garrett GT40 turbo from a Scania heavy truck pushing 36 PSI, a new diesel pump and home-made intercooler. A bell housing adapter was made to fit a Tremec TKO 600 transmission to the engine and power was routed to a Mercedes rear axle. Unfortunately that axle didn't survive the first race, so now there's an Toyota Aristo rear axle (Lexus GS to US readers) fitted.
Don't think for a second that's the end of the insane hackery here. The factory suspension was in no way up to the task of drifting, so the rear suspension from a Mazda RX8 modified with coil overs was fitted. According to Peltola, "The hardest was to fit whole Aristo front axle, I think I worked 2 or 3 weeks with it," he said, "Mounting the rear axle was not so hard, but it took some hours too." Steering comes from salvaged Volvo parts and lend a nearly sickening turning angle.
The result is The Diesel Drifter. One of the baddest mad wagons ever. Power? Well "I have not had it on a dyno, but last year I drove a Mercedes Benz 190 (W201) with an OM603, 3.0 12-valve turbodiesel and it made 414-hp and 704Nm (520 lb-ft). So maybe I have like 450Hp and 750Nm (553 lb-ft). But I have plans to build it with two turbos, so I will get more power, I hope it will go to 500hp and 850Nm (626 lb-ft)." We like those plans.
Building A Diesel-Powered Mercedes Station Wagon Drift Racer
So far Peltola's been competing strong in the Pro class, though it's a fair bit tougher than his last go-round. He's finished well in the middle to the top of the pack, placing as high as 3rd, at the X-treme Pro Drifting Trophy, but for now, he's just sorting his car and getting used to the big leagues. When we asked what his competition thinks of his bitchin' new ride, Peltola only says "I dont know, maybe I'll have to ask!"
Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
..
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
09-24-2010, 09:20 AM
#3
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
Id love to know how he is handling the clutch, using stock pedals, adapted something? Video of that car is amazing. Also what he's done with the rear end sounds incredible. Looks like the MB rear end will only take so much!
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
09-27-2010, 09:01 AM
#4
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
09-27-2010, 09:36 PM
#5
(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
09-27-2010, 09:36 PM #5(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
09-28-2010, 12:54 PM
#6
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ....
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I had the same thoughts! The 8.8 is a far better then any differential option Mercedes has, you can build it stronger then a GM 12 bolt, cheaper to maintain, and with the added plus that you can get any gears you want! I read the Cobra took the differential from the Lincoln MarkVIII. Those are becoming plenty to find in the yards now.
Mustang Cobra IRS pictures.
I'd say go for it! Get yourself another sub frame and have fun!
This post was last modified: 09-28-2010, 07:03 PM by DeliveryValve.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
DeliveryValve
09-28-2010, 12:54 PM #6(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_Diesel ....
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I had the same thoughts! The 8.8 is a far better then any differential option Mercedes has, you can build it stronger then a GM 12 bolt, cheaper to maintain, and with the added plus that you can get any gears you want! I read the Cobra took the differential from the Lincoln MarkVIII. Those are becoming plenty to find in the yards now.
Mustang Cobra IRS pictures.
I'd say go for it! Get yourself another sub frame and have fun!
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
10-23-2010, 10:11 PM
#7
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-23-2010, 10:11 PM #7New video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJ5_j7te...grec_index
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
11-17-2010, 08:39 AM
#8
woaw. nice.. I'll try to search for new vids for this. got inspired to have a drift car project. anyways. I'm new here guys. I am dont with chatting and I think I am going to learn more in forums. though I can't find the introduction thread so I am just posting to other random thread that interests me.
11-17-2010, 06:05 PM
#9
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
This post was last modified: 11-17-2010, 06:07 PM by jeemu.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
11-17-2010, 10:26 PM
#10
(11-17-2010, 06:05 PM)jeemu(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
I see why, you are using a different bell housing. I am using the one that bolted up to a cast iron four speed.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
11-17-2010, 10:26 PM #10(11-17-2010, 06:05 PM)jeemu(09-27-2010, 09:36 PM)Rudolf_DieselThat is leave on here(09-23-2010, 11:15 PM)DeliveryValve Hey Rudolf, he has a Tremec...
Very cool! The adpater plate is about the thickness I am using, but I wonder why he welded it? You can bolt up the MBZ bell housing to the adapter...My plate is much smaller, I guess he needed it bigger in order to weld it.
I thought about sizing up a Mustang IRS diff - it has LSD to boot.
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
I see why, you are using a different bell housing. I am using the one that bolted up to a cast iron four speed.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
11-17-2010, 10:47 PM
#11
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
11-17-2010, 10:47 PM #11New video great production! http://www.youtube.com/user/willbhere4u#...hxsN7HGo2Y
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
11-19-2010, 05:04 PM
#12
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
[/quote]
A couple questions about your tremec mating to the om606. I want to do the same but on a om603 engine.
What bellhousing did you use?
What else needs to be modified?
Thanks!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
That is leave on here
I made four of those and one i sold on that Teemu s drifter.
Look pictures, so you understand why it is done that how it is done
http://kuvablogi.com/blog/6520/7/4/
[/quote]
A couple questions about your tremec mating to the om606. I want to do the same but on a om603 engine.
What bellhousing did you use?
What else needs to be modified?
Thanks!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
11-21-2010, 12:19 PM
#13
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
11-21-2010, 01:02 PM
#14
(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!
1990 300CE
Looking for a diesel project
11-21-2010, 03:41 PM
#15
(11-21-2010, 01:02 PM)conski(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!
Hi. I sold my Tremec before got installed it.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
(11-21-2010, 01:02 PM)conski(11-21-2010, 12:19 PM)jeemu Hi. I cut it out w124 200d 4speed.
http://kuva1.kuvablogi.com/iso/img1823949.jpg
We don't have those in the U.S. but I'm sure I could get one off of a 300d.
Did you have to beef up the tremec at all or could it handle the power you wanted right out of the box?
I am thinking of using a t5 right now because it is readily available and fairly cheap. I want to mate it with a om603 that will be pushing 400hp. Let me know if you have any advice or tips on this set up.
Thanks Jeemu!
Hi. I sold my Tremec before got installed it.
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
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