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om602 pump on om605

om602 pump on om605

 
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mantahead
Holset

600
10-12-2010, 04:54 PM #1
hi folks i am new here. I am going to build a c250 drift car with a holsett turbo. I was going to remove fly by wire pump and fit pump of om602. I have got a hold of a om602 non turbo pump, can it supply enough fuel to the om605 td engine. Thanks any help will be appreciated.

mantahead
10-12-2010, 04:54 PM #1

hi folks i am new here. I am going to build a c250 drift car with a holsett turbo. I was going to remove fly by wire pump and fit pump of om602. I have got a hold of a om602 non turbo pump, can it supply enough fuel to the om605 td engine. Thanks any help will be appreciated.

ForcedInduction
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10-12-2010, 07:23 PM #2
No. You will need to have the pump elements replaced to get more than 150hp.
ForcedInduction
10-12-2010, 07:23 PM #2

No. You will need to have the pump elements replaced to get more than 150hp.

mantahead
Holset

600
10-13-2010, 08:27 AM #3
(10-12-2010, 07:23 PM)ForcedInduction No. You will need to have the pump elements replaced to get more than 150hp.

Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it? Where could i buy these elements? Whay size would you advise me to go?
Thanks.
mantahead
10-13-2010, 08:27 AM #3

(10-12-2010, 07:23 PM)ForcedInduction No. You will need to have the pump elements replaced to get more than 150hp.

Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it? Where could i buy these elements? Whay size would you advise me to go?
Thanks.

George3soccer
Holset

373
10-13-2010, 08:34 AM #4
You can purchase elemnt's from a fellow superTD member- tomnik.....

You can go with 7mm or higher that would be a good start for you, those should be good for around 450hp, if im not mistaking on a 605, with the correct holset of course.

What holset will you be running?
This post was last modified: 10-13-2010, 08:35 AM by George3soccer.
George3soccer
10-13-2010, 08:34 AM #4

You can purchase elemnt's from a fellow superTD member- tomnik.....

You can go with 7mm or higher that would be a good start for you, those should be good for around 450hp, if im not mistaking on a 605, with the correct holset of course.

What holset will you be running?

ForcedInduction
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10-13-2010, 10:51 AM #5
(10-13-2010, 08:27 AM)mantahead Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it?

They are the same. Don't waste time or money switching used elements, go straight for the 7.0 Myna or 7.5mm Derv upgrades.
ForcedInduction
10-13-2010, 10:51 AM #5

(10-13-2010, 08:27 AM)mantahead Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it?

They are the same. Don't waste time or money switching used elements, go straight for the 7.0 Myna or 7.5mm Derv upgrades.

mantahead
Holset

600
10-13-2010, 01:00 PM #6
(10-13-2010, 08:34 AM)George3soccer You can purchase elemnt's from a fellow superTD member- tomnik.....

You can go with 7mm or higher that would be a good start for you, those should be good for around 450hp, if im not mistaking on a 605, with the correct holset of course.

What holset will you be running?

I can get a hx 35 that is modified for a petrol engine to spool quicker, but i think it may have to much lag for drifting. or a hx 30, what you think?
(10-13-2010, 10:51 AM)ForcedInduction
(10-13-2010, 08:27 AM)mantahead Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it?

They are the same. Don't waste time or money switching used elements, go straight for the 7.0 Myna or 7.5mm Derv upgrades.

I dont have a om602 turbo pump, does it have a boost diaphram or anything extra on it compared to non turbo? Have you any idea how much 7mm or 7.5mm elements are? will the injectors need modified? What do the elements look like? Thanks.
This post was last modified: 10-13-2010, 01:15 PM by mantahead.
mantahead
10-13-2010, 01:00 PM #6

(10-13-2010, 08:34 AM)George3soccer You can purchase elemnt's from a fellow superTD member- tomnik.....

You can go with 7mm or higher that would be a good start for you, those should be good for around 450hp, if im not mistaking on a 605, with the correct holset of course.

What holset will you be running?

I can get a hx 35 that is modified for a petrol engine to spool quicker, but i think it may have to much lag for drifting. or a hx 30, what you think?
(10-13-2010, 10:51 AM)ForcedInduction
(10-13-2010, 08:27 AM)mantahead Thanks for the reply, has this om602 non turbo pump the same elements as the turbo version? What about the fly by wire om605 pump, could any parts or elements be used from it?

They are the same. Don't waste time or money switching used elements, go straight for the 7.0 Myna or 7.5mm Derv upgrades.

I dont have a om602 turbo pump, does it have a boost diaphram or anything extra on it compared to non turbo? Have you any idea how much 7mm or 7.5mm elements are? will the injectors need modified? What do the elements look like? Thanks.

jeemu
"some people do, some people talk."

457
10-13-2010, 05:15 PM #7
(10-13-2010, 01:00 PM)mantahead I dont have a om602 turbo pump, does it have a boost diaphram or anything extra on it compared to non turbo? Have you any idea how much 7mm or 7.5mm elements are? will the injectors need modified? What do the elements look like? Thanks.
Turbo pump has an ALDA, but if you send you ip on element update they can do it on side a pump. Dont know all pump shops, but Mynä-Diesel and PPD do those here in Finland
There is also 8mm elements in market. No need touch about injectors
This post was last modified: 10-14-2010, 07:17 PM by ForcedInduction.

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jeemu
10-13-2010, 05:15 PM #7

(10-13-2010, 01:00 PM)mantahead I dont have a om602 turbo pump, does it have a boost diaphram or anything extra on it compared to non turbo? Have you any idea how much 7mm or 7.5mm elements are? will the injectors need modified? What do the elements look like? Thanks.
Turbo pump has an ALDA, but if you send you ip on element update they can do it on side a pump. Dont know all pump shops, but Mynä-Diesel and PPD do those here in Finland
There is also 8mm elements in market. No need touch about injectors


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

mantahead
Holset

600
10-13-2010, 05:42 PM #8
(10-13-2010, 05:15 PM)jeemu Turbo pump has an ALDA, but if you send you ip on element update they can do it on side a pump. Dont know all pump shops, but Mynä-Diesel and PPD do those here in Finland
There is also 8mm elements in market. No need touch about injectors
How much would it cost to get ip on element update in Myna-Diesel? Do you think hx35 would have to much lag for drifting on om605?Thanks

This post was last modified: 10-14-2010, 07:17 PM by ForcedInduction.
mantahead
10-13-2010, 05:42 PM #8

(10-13-2010, 05:15 PM)jeemu Turbo pump has an ALDA, but if you send you ip on element update they can do it on side a pump. Dont know all pump shops, but Mynä-Diesel and PPD do those here in Finland
There is also 8mm elements in market. No need touch about injectors
How much would it cost to get ip on element update in Myna-Diesel? Do you think hx35 would have to much lag for drifting on om605?Thanks

jeemu
"some people do, some people talk."

457
10-14-2010, 05:26 AM #9
(10-13-2010, 05:42 PM)mantahead How much would it cost to get ip on element update in Myna-Diesel? Do you think hx35 would have to much lag for drifting on om605?Thanks
You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.

This post was last modified: 10-14-2010, 07:17 PM by ForcedInduction.

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
jeemu
10-14-2010, 05:26 AM #9

(10-13-2010, 05:42 PM)mantahead How much would it cost to get ip on element update in Myna-Diesel? Do you think hx35 would have to much lag for drifting on om605?Thanks
You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

mantahead
Holset

600
10-14-2010, 04:26 PM #10
(10-14-2010, 05:26 AM)jeemu You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.
ok i will phone myna diesel and get a price, have tried a couple of pump places in n-ireland and they wont modify ip,but there is one more i will try tomorrow who are famous for lorry pumps in this country like 143 scania pumps. Thanks maybe i use smaller turbo.

OPEL MANTA 400R. with nissan sr20 motor,merc s class calipers,atlas axle,zf lsd, corsa power steering.. 301hp.(thats why i get mantahead)
This post was last modified: 10-14-2010, 07:18 PM by ForcedInduction.
mantahead
10-14-2010, 04:26 PM #10

(10-14-2010, 05:26 AM)jeemu You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.
ok i will phone myna diesel and get a price, have tried a couple of pump places in n-ireland and they wont modify ip,but there is one more i will try tomorrow who are famous for lorry pumps in this country like 143 scania pumps. Thanks maybe i use smaller turbo.

OPEL MANTA 400R. with nissan sr20 motor,merc s class calipers,atlas axle,zf lsd, corsa power steering.. 301hp.(thats why i get mantahead)

mantahead
Holset

600
10-15-2010, 03:24 PM #11
(10-14-2010, 04:26 PM)mantahead
(10-14-2010, 05:26 AM)jeemu You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.
ok i will phone myna diesel and get a price, have tried a couple of pump places in n-ireland and they wont modify ip,but there is one more i will try tomorrow who are famous for lorry pumps in this country like 143 scania pumps. Thanks maybe i use smaller turbo.

OPEL MANTA 400R. with nissan sr20 motor,merc s class calipers,atlas axle,zf lsd, corsa power steering.. 301hp.(thats why i get mantahead)
Maybe i should change to om606 before i spend money on pump and manifold or should i work with what i have? IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.


mantahead
10-15-2010, 03:24 PM #11

(10-14-2010, 04:26 PM)mantahead
(10-14-2010, 05:26 AM)jeemu You have exact prise if you ask there. Here is one drifter who has Garrett gt40 on his om606. What i have talk about him he think at that Garrett is too slow spool.
ok i will phone myna diesel and get a price, have tried a couple of pump places in n-ireland and they wont modify ip,but there is one more i will try tomorrow who are famous for lorry pumps in this country like 143 scania pumps. Thanks maybe i use smaller turbo.

OPEL MANTA 400R. with nissan sr20 motor,merc s class calipers,atlas axle,zf lsd, corsa power steering.. 301hp.(thats why i get mantahead)
Maybe i should change to om606 before i spend money on pump and manifold or should i work with what i have? IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.


muuris
OM605

318
10-15-2010, 03:51 PM #12
(10-15-2010, 03:24 PM)mantahead IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.

They are basically the same engine, the other is just one cylinder longer = more power, more weight. If you take 500hp, it comes easier from the 6-cylinder, of course.
muuris
10-15-2010, 03:51 PM #12

(10-15-2010, 03:24 PM)mantahead IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.

They are basically the same engine, the other is just one cylinder longer = more power, more weight. If you take 500hp, it comes easier from the 6-cylinder, of course.

jeemu
"some people do, some people talk."

457
10-16-2010, 01:50 PM #13
(10-15-2010, 03:51 PM)muuris
(10-15-2010, 03:24 PM)mantahead IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.

They are basically the same engine, the other is just one cylinder longer = more power, more weight. If you take 500hp, it comes easier from the 6-cylinder, of course.
Yes and it help on drifting, because it weights more Smile

Muuris is right. You can make more more torgue and power with less money if tune an 606.
This post was last modified: 10-16-2010, 01:52 PM by jeemu.

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
jeemu
10-16-2010, 01:50 PM #13

(10-15-2010, 03:51 PM)muuris
(10-15-2010, 03:24 PM)mantahead IS OM605 AS STRONG AS OM606? THANKS.

They are basically the same engine, the other is just one cylinder longer = more power, more weight. If you take 500hp, it comes easier from the 6-cylinder, of course.
Yes and it help on drifting, because it weights more Smile

Muuris is right. You can make more more torgue and power with less money if tune an 606.


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

mantahead
Holset

600
10-17-2010, 11:40 AM #14
Thanks for reply, to change elements on om602 pump to 7.5mm do the delivery valves need changed or modified?

mantahead
10-17-2010, 11:40 AM #14

Thanks for reply, to change elements on om602 pump to 7.5mm do the delivery valves need changed or modified?

 
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