w140 S350td - Diesel Möhkö
w140 S350td - Diesel Möhkö
10-18-2010, 05:03 AM
#1
Always wanted a w140 mercedes, specially a diesel one and now i got one
It was pretty well equipt from the factory, usually dieseli w140 are without options, but this one had black leather, electric seats, automatic clima. etc. Also it had pretty low milage on the meter, usually these euro S diesels have over 500tkm in the meter.
Idea is to make some small preps here and there, to keep it non superturbo if possible
Here's few photos in original shape:
![[Image: mohko1.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko1.jpg)
![[Image: mohko2.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko2.jpg)
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
Bought a new daily driver for the winter, got it very cheap.
Always wanted a w140 mercedes, specially a diesel one and now i got one
It was pretty well equipt from the factory, usually dieseli w140 are without options, but this one had black leather, electric seats, automatic clima. etc. Also it had pretty low milage on the meter, usually these euro S diesels have over 500tkm in the meter.
Idea is to make some small preps here and there, to keep it non superturbo if possible
Here's few photos in original shape:
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
10-18-2010, 03:57 PM
#2
Made my own software for turbo and IP control, also made new engine harness (old was pretty bad
), K&N intake kit, disabled EGR and custom injectors modded by me. Exterior mods, Eibach Pro-kit, Sachs Super touring, Altech wheels modded by me, facelift smoke crystal rear lights, facelift grill and headlights with xenon lights.Here's new pictures:
![[Image: mohko-uusi1.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko-uusi1.jpg)
![[Image: mohko-uusi4.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko-uusi4.jpg)
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
Made some modifications to exterior and also to engine.
Made my own software for turbo and IP control, also made new engine harness (old was pretty bad ), K&N intake kit, disabled EGR and custom injectors modded by me. Exterior mods, Eibach Pro-kit, Sachs Super touring, Altech wheels modded by me, facelift smoke crystal rear lights, facelift grill and headlights with xenon lights.
Here's new pictures:
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
10-18-2010, 10:14 PM
#4
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-18-2010, 10:14 PM #4I've always liked the W140 S class they are so over built the doors and glass are just massive! nice car!!!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
10-19-2010, 11:55 AM
#5
'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
*drools*
'98 E300 Turbo "Juliette" - Brabus wheels and almost all the options a w210 could have
'87 300D Turbo "Roxanne" - #22 head - 400E brakes - EGR Delete - 17" Staggered AMG 5 spoke rims from CLK500 - 5 Spd manual
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
2007 Chevy 2500HD CCSB Duramax with about 400-500 rwhp depending on the tune I use
1983 300D Silver Exterior/Black inside - Sold and will be missed, may we never meet in a PnP.
10-23-2010, 01:59 AM
#6
(10-18-2010, 05:03 AM)JTY Bought a new daily driver for the winter, got it very cheap.
Always wanted a w140 mercedes, specially a diesel one and now i got one
Could you please tell us more about the diesel they used in the W140?
Displacement, power etc.... Also what else was it used in??
"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
Silberpfeil
10-23-2010, 01:59 AM #6(10-18-2010, 05:03 AM)JTY Bought a new daily driver for the winter, got it very cheap.
Always wanted a w140 mercedes, specially a diesel one and now i got one
Could you please tell us more about the diesel they used in the W140?
Displacement, power etc.... Also what else was it used in??
"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
10-23-2010, 07:08 AM
#7
Outside the USA it was the turbo OM606, 178hp.
ForcedInduction
10-23-2010, 07:08 AM
#7
In the USA its the unreliable 3.5L OM603, 147hp.
Outside the USA it was the turbo OM606, 178hp.
10-23-2010, 07:46 AM
#8
(10-23-2010, 07:08 AM)ForcedInduction In the USA its the unreliable 3.5L OM603, 147hp.
Outside the USA it was the turbo OM606, 178hp.
3.5L was also sold in Europe
diesel2fast4u
10-23-2010, 07:46 AM #8(10-23-2010, 07:08 AM)ForcedInduction In the USA its the unreliable 3.5L OM603, 147hp.
Outside the USA it was the turbo OM606, 178hp.
3.5L was also sold in Europe
10-24-2010, 01:53 AM
#9
gr rene
w124 300 turbodiesel '86
C124 300 turbodiesel coupe '93
w114 300 turbodiesel '69
http://youtu.be/RFLEg7X09dI
beautyful car,wouldn't mind driving it,what year is it?
gr rene
w124 300 turbodiesel '86
C124 300 turbodiesel coupe '93
w114 300 turbodiesel '69
http://youtu.be/RFLEg7X09dI
10-26-2010, 02:28 PM
#10
(10-23-2010, 01:59 AM)Silberpfeil Could you please tell us more about the diesel they used in the W140?
Displacement, power etc.... Also what else was it used in??
This the pre-facelift model S350td with 3.5l OM603 with garrett T3 turbo, no intercooler, first model with ECU controling engine and turbo.
The 3.5l engine is pretty torque beast and moves the massive chassis pretty easy, no complains.
Many have complained that 3.5l om603 is unreliable, but that's only half truth. Here in europe these S350td have been driven hard and long, usually with the same engine (400-600tkm).
Resently i found good thread on this matter were they explaint why there was so many failured 3.5l engines in US and that was because of the low quality diesel. US has lower cetane values for diesel their selling than in Europe and that causes harder knocking and wilder cyliner pressures. It's true that MB made lighter rods for 3.5l engine, but the main problems seems to be in the fuel.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(10-23-2010, 01:59 AM)Silberpfeil Could you please tell us more about the diesel they used in the W140?
Displacement, power etc.... Also what else was it used in??
This the pre-facelift model S350td with 3.5l OM603 with garrett T3 turbo, no intercooler, first model with ECU controling engine and turbo.
The 3.5l engine is pretty torque beast and moves the massive chassis pretty easy, no complains.
Many have complained that 3.5l om603 is unreliable, but that's only half truth. Here in europe these S350td have been driven hard and long, usually with the same engine (400-600tkm).
Resently i found good thread on this matter were they explaint why there was so many failured 3.5l engines in US and that was because of the low quality diesel. US has lower cetane values for diesel their selling than in Europe and that causes harder knocking and wilder cyliner pressures. It's true that MB made lighter rods for 3.5l engine, but the main problems seems to be in the fuel.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
10-27-2010, 05:53 AM
#11
ForcedInduction
10-27-2010, 05:53 AM
#11
Not the fuel. Only MB knows the actual cause and they won't even acknowledge there was a problem.
10-27-2010, 08:43 AM
#12
(10-27-2010, 05:53 AM)ForcedInduction Not the fuel. Only MB knows the actual cause and they won't even acknowledge there was a problem.
Ya I have seen alot of theories but no facts.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(10-27-2010, 05:53 AM)ForcedInduction Not the fuel. Only MB knows the actual cause and they won't even acknowledge there was a problem.
Ya I have seen alot of theories but no facts.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
10-27-2010, 10:03 PM
#13
(10-26-2010, 02:28 PM)JTY Many have complained that 3.5l om603 is unreliable, but that's only half truth. Here in europe these S350td have been driven hard and long, usually with the same engine (400-600tkm).
Resently i found good thread on this matter were they explaint why there was so many failured 3.5l engines in US and that was because of the low quality diesel. US has lower cetane values for diesel their selling than in Europe and that causes harder knocking and wilder cyliner pressures. It's true that MB made lighter rods for 3.5l engine, but the main problems seems to be in the fuel.
What cetane can you find where you are?
I go out of my way to always put 42 cetane in my car instead of the 40 cetane everyone else has here in the states and I definitely notice the difference.
This post was last modified: 10-27-2010, 10:05 PM by Silberpfeil.
"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
Silberpfeil
10-27-2010, 10:03 PM #13(10-26-2010, 02:28 PM)JTY Many have complained that 3.5l om603 is unreliable, but that's only half truth. Here in europe these S350td have been driven hard and long, usually with the same engine (400-600tkm).
Resently i found good thread on this matter were they explaint why there was so many failured 3.5l engines in US and that was because of the low quality diesel. US has lower cetane values for diesel their selling than in Europe and that causes harder knocking and wilder cyliner pressures. It's true that MB made lighter rods for 3.5l engine, but the main problems seems to be in the fuel.
What cetane can you find where you are?
I go out of my way to always put 42 cetane in my car instead of the 40 cetane everyone else has here in the states and I definitely notice the difference.
"Molly" Jan. '84 black/tan 300d 180k miles, two owner car
10-28-2010, 05:53 PM
#14
(10-24-2010, 01:53 AM)mb-rene beautyful car,wouldn't mind driving it,what year is it?
It's from 1993
(10-27-2010, 10:03 PM)Silberpfeil What cetane can you find where you are?
I go out of my way to always put 42 cetane in my car instead of the 40 cetane everyone else has here in the states and I definitely notice the difference.
Cetane value for our diesel is 50-55 (Neste Diesel 51), that's typical normal diesel here in Finland.
But my self i usually use diesel 100 addative with diesel (to top cetane even higher) + some 2stroke oil to keep pump and injectors working
Have been using this coctail for over 10years, last diesel MB i drow over 800tkm with original enigne, 300sd was over 500tkm before i made engine overhaul, so no problems here
S350td has been driven over 350tkm with original engine, so let's see how long it will last
This post was last modified: 10-28-2010, 06:04 PM by JTY.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(10-24-2010, 01:53 AM)mb-rene beautyful car,wouldn't mind driving it,what year is it?
It's from 1993
(10-27-2010, 10:03 PM)Silberpfeil What cetane can you find where you are?
I go out of my way to always put 42 cetane in my car instead of the 40 cetane everyone else has here in the states and I definitely notice the difference.
Cetane value for our diesel is 50-55 (Neste Diesel 51), that's typical normal diesel here in Finland.
But my self i usually use diesel 100 addative with diesel (to top cetane even higher) + some 2stroke oil to keep pump and injectors working
Have been using this coctail for over 10years, last diesel MB i drow over 800tkm with original enigne, 300sd was over 500tkm before i made engine overhaul, so no problems here
S350td has been driven over 350tkm with original engine, so let's see how long it will last
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
mike-81-240d
10-28-2010, 11:25 PM #15Wow I like it.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
10-31-2010, 08:34 PM
#16
I tried to keep it as OEM as possible.
So here's more OEM tuning
![[Image: mohko-wi1.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko-wi1.jpg)
![[Image: mohko-wi2.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko-wi2.jpg)
![[Image: mohko-wi3.jpg]](http://oh1jty.toimii.net/auto/mohko-wi3.jpg)
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
Here's few photos of the water injection system.
I tried to keep it as OEM as possible.
So here's more OEM tuning
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
10-31-2010, 08:37 PM
#17
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-31-2010, 08:37 PM #17Looks nice I like the tank it makes for a nice clean install!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
10-31-2010, 09:51 PM
#19
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
10-31-2010, 09:51 PM #19What tank is that? That thing is dope!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-01-2010, 11:26 AM
#20
George3soccer
11-01-2010, 11:26 AM #20What water injection system is that. And what nozzles are you running on the 603.
11-02-2010, 10:36 AM
#21
(10-31-2010, 09:51 PM)Captain America What tank is that? That thing is dope!
Tank and pump is made by coolingmist, pump is newer generation 200psi model without the annoying pressure switch, so no pressure humping anymore
(11-01-2010, 11:26 AM)George3soccer What water injection system is that. And what nozzles are you running on the 603.
I'm running with a 180cc/150psi (208cc/200psi) nozzle. It's rated for 200-300hp.
Today was the first long trip with waterinjection and it seems to be spot on nozzle for this engine. Fuel consumption went down by 2liters, not truthfull because half of the tank wa sdriven without waterinjection, so it should get even better. Drives very smooth, more torque, torque band wider.
This post was last modified: 11-02-2010, 10:45 AM by JTY.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(10-31-2010, 09:51 PM)Captain America What tank is that? That thing is dope!
Tank and pump is made by coolingmist, pump is newer generation 200psi model without the annoying pressure switch, so no pressure humping anymore
(11-01-2010, 11:26 AM)George3soccer What water injection system is that. And what nozzles are you running on the 603.
I'm running with a 180cc/150psi (208cc/200psi) nozzle. It's rated for 200-300hp.
Today was the first long trip with waterinjection and it seems to be spot on nozzle for this engine. Fuel consumption went down by 2liters, not truthfull because half of the tank wa sdriven without waterinjection, so it should get even better. Drives very smooth, more torque, torque band wider.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
11-02-2010, 12:33 PM
#22
What sollution are you running aswell.
George3soccer
11-02-2010, 12:33 PM #22Thank you very much. Will give those nozzles a try.
What sollution are you running aswell.
11-02-2010, 01:41 PM
#23
(11-02-2010, 10:36 AM)JTY(10-31-2010, 09:51 PM)Captain America What tank is that? That thing is dope!
Tank and pump is made by coolingmist, pump is newer generation 200psi model without the annoying pressure switch, so no pressure humping anymore
(11-01-2010, 11:26 AM)George3soccer What water injection system is that. And what nozzles are you running on the 603.
I'm running with a 180cc/150psi (208cc/200psi) nozzle. It's rated for 200-300hp.
Today was the first long trip with waterinjection and it seems to be spot on nozzle for this engine. Fuel consumption went down by 2liters, not truthfull because half of the tank wa sdriven without waterinjection, so it should get even better. Drives very smooth, more torque, torque band wider.
On water only or Mix?
Grand cherokee WK (OM642)
diesel2fast4u
11-02-2010, 01:41 PM #23(11-02-2010, 10:36 AM)JTY(10-31-2010, 09:51 PM)Captain America What tank is that? That thing is dope!
Tank and pump is made by coolingmist, pump is newer generation 200psi model without the annoying pressure switch, so no pressure humping anymore
(11-01-2010, 11:26 AM)George3soccer What water injection system is that. And what nozzles are you running on the 603.
I'm running with a 180cc/150psi (208cc/200psi) nozzle. It's rated for 200-300hp.
Today was the first long trip with waterinjection and it seems to be spot on nozzle for this engine. Fuel consumption went down by 2liters, not truthfull because half of the tank wa sdriven without waterinjection, so it should get even better. Drives very smooth, more torque, torque band wider.
On water only or Mix?
Grand cherokee WK (OM642)
11-03-2010, 03:24 AM
#24
(11-02-2010, 12:33 PM)George3soccer Thank you very much. Will give those nozzles a try.
What sollution are you running aswell.
Usually with water/ethanol 60:40, have tried also 50:50, but those were on the 300SD superturbo. That trip was with 70:30 water/Ethanol mix.
Next will try with 60:40 water/methanol (as my ethanol stock is out
)- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
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- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
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(11-02-2010, 12:33 PM)George3soccer Thank you very much. Will give those nozzles a try.
What sollution are you running aswell.
Usually with water/ethanol 60:40, have tried also 50:50, but those were on the 300SD superturbo. That trip was with 70:30 water/Ethanol mix.
Next will try with 60:40 water/methanol (as my ethanol stock is out
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- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
11-03-2010, 11:53 AM
#25
George3soccer
11-03-2010, 11:53 AM #25Let me know how does the water/methanol work out. I have that available very easily.
11-09-2010, 03:00 AM
#26
(11-03-2010, 11:53 AM)George3soccer Let me know how does the water/methanol work out. I have that available very easily.
Water/methanol mix (60:40) seems to work better, gave that much more torque that the tranny started slipping
So next step taking tranny out and to Siekkinen for 600Nm prepup and after that bigger turbo and IP to PP-diesel or Mynä for 7mm element modify
Okay better rods before that
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(11-03-2010, 11:53 AM)George3soccer Let me know how does the water/methanol work out. I have that available very easily.
Water/methanol mix (60:40) seems to work better, gave that much more torque that the tranny started slipping
So next step taking tranny out and to Siekkinen for 600Nm prepup and after that bigger turbo and IP to PP-diesel or Mynä for 7mm element modify
Okay better rods before that
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
11-09-2010, 11:50 AM
#27
Please do keep us updated with this motor, and the updates sure do love the work, and clean craftsman ship.
George3soccer
11-09-2010, 11:50 AM #27Haha I love it. Very glad the water meth was a better mix, I will be running the same mix as well, but wont be able to give results until spring time. Car is in winter project mode currently.
Please do keep us updated with this motor, and the updates sure do love the work, and clean craftsman ship.
11-23-2010, 07:28 PM
#28
With current tune the 1.5gallon tanks lasts for 300km, not so good for MPG but nice power increase when driving WOT
There is big difference in the power if driving with higher meth mix 60:40 and 50:50, 70:30 is too light mix.
Maybe gonna install a 6gallon tank to rear and reverse to original tune, so that it injects little earlier to get better MPG.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
Some update on this project. I have been driving around 3000km with the setup and fine tuned the water injection.
With current tune the 1.5gallon tanks lasts for 300km, not so good for MPG but nice power increase when driving WOT
There is big difference in the power if driving with higher meth mix 60:40 and 50:50, 70:30 is too light mix.
Maybe gonna install a 6gallon tank to rear and reverse to original tune, so that it injects little earlier to get better MPG.
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
11-24-2010, 08:24 PM
#29
George3soccer
11-24-2010, 08:24 PM #29Mpg. Do you mean mpg of the actual fuel consumption. Of mpg of water/meth consumption?
12-01-2010, 07:31 PM
#30
(11-24-2010, 08:24 PM)George3soccer Mpg. Do you mean mpg of the actual fuel consumption. Of mpg of water/meth consumption?
Sorry for mistake, i mean fuel mpg
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
(11-24-2010, 08:24 PM)George3soccer Mpg. Do you mean mpg of the actual fuel consumption. Of mpg of water/meth consumption?
Sorry for mistake, i mean fuel mpg
- MB w126 300SD Superturbo (US) -83, Mods: OM617A with custom head work, Master Power Turbo 802332, PP-Diesel custom 7mm IP, China intercooler, KKD-Motorsport exhaust manifold, DIY intake manifold, Coolmist Waterinjection, DIY Supermeter display/datalog with PLX Wideband Lambda, Siekkinen custom 722.3 autotrans, Elbe Performance LSD, Green Filter cold air intake, straight 3" exhaust with two dual 2.5" outputs
- MB r129 500SL AMG (JDM) -94
Full AMG bodykit, full JDM features, modified ECU and exhaust
- MB w123 250E-TT (JDM) -85
Full 1JZ-GTE twinturbo conversion, full aircon, custom china cooler, custom IC-pipes, custom sport recaro interior, custom 3-piece JDM rims
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07-06-2011, 11:40 AM
#32
(12-01-2010, 07:31 PM)JTY(11-24-2010, 08:24 PM)George3soccer Mpg. Do you mean mpg of the actual fuel consumption. Of mpg of water/meth consumption?
Sorry for mistake, i mean fuel mpg
Mita Gulu,
I too own a 1993 300SD, and looking for ways to improve its performance as well as MPG. Are you able to share with us the details of your mods or even the DIY?
![[Image: s300.jpg]](http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z138/ancientrocco/s300.jpg)
Greetings from US, I was in Oulainen for New Years back in 2000. My ex was from there (Kaski)
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07-06-2011, 11:40 AM #32(12-01-2010, 07:31 PM)JTY(11-24-2010, 08:24 PM)George3soccer Mpg. Do you mean mpg of the actual fuel consumption. Of mpg of water/meth consumption?
Sorry for mistake, i mean fuel mpg
Mita Gulu,
I too own a 1993 300SD, and looking for ways to improve its performance as well as MPG. Are you able to share with us the details of your mods or even the DIY?
Greetings from US, I was in Oulainen for New Years back in 2000. My ex was from there (Kaski)
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