Garrett T3/T4
Garrett T3/T4
01-04-2011, 02:49 AM
#1
I have 603.960 motor in G classe mercedes.
My pump is Toms/Davids in 7.5mm element mod and I will be using unmoded pump until I get the 7.5mm pump.
I´m planing to buy this turbine with internal wastegate and .48 AR.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garrett-B...3308wt_941
What wastgate pressure should I chose and do you agree that this is a good turbocharger for my 250hp goal?
Regards
Atli
Hi Guys
I have 603.960 motor in G classe mercedes.
My pump is Toms/Davids in 7.5mm element mod and I will be using unmoded pump until I get the 7.5mm pump.
I´m planing to buy this turbine with internal wastegate and .48 AR.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garrett-B...3308wt_941
What wastgate pressure should I chose and do you agree that this is a good turbocharger for my 250hp goal?
Regards
Atli
ForcedInduction
01-04-2011, 03:29 AM
#2
Don't waste money on antique junk. Use a Holset or Garrett GT series.
01-04-2011, 05:26 AM
#3
(01-04-2011, 03:29 AM)ForcedInduction Don't waste money on antique junk. Use a Holset or Garrett GT series.
Hi ForcedInduction.
Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?
What turbo do you hink would be better for me?
I´m not going to use VGT for now, I dont have time build the controls.
Regards
Atli
(01-04-2011, 03:29 AM)ForcedInduction Don't waste money on antique junk. Use a Holset or Garrett GT series.
Hi ForcedInduction.
Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?
What turbo do you hink would be better for me?
I´m not going to use VGT for now, I dont have time build the controls.
Regards
Atli
01-04-2011, 04:20 PM
#4
(01-04-2011, 05:26 AM)Atli Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?Right, the T-series design is from the WWII era, the Holset and GT turbos were developed with computer aid for much better efficiency and operating range. $1100 is an extremely high price to pay, you can get much better turbos for a fraction of that.
Quote:What turbo do you hink would be better for me?An HX35 has proven a good match for your engine. And a GT35 or GT37 would work well on the Garrett side.
ForcedInduction
01-04-2011, 04:20 PM
#4
(01-04-2011, 05:26 AM)Atli Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?Right, the T-series design is from the WWII era, the Holset and GT turbos were developed with computer aid for much better efficiency and operating range. $1100 is an extremely high price to pay, you can get much better turbos for a fraction of that.
Quote:What turbo do you hink would be better for me?An HX35 has proven a good match for your engine. And a GT35 or GT37 would work well on the Garrett side.
01-05-2011, 10:37 AM
#5
(01-04-2011, 04:20 PM)ForcedInduction(01-04-2011, 05:26 AM)Atli Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?Right, the T-series design is from the WWII era, the Holset and GT turbos were developed with computer aid for much better efficiency and operating range. $1100 is an extremely high price to pay, you can get much better turbos for a fraction of that.
Quote:What turbo do you hink would be better for me?An HX35 has proven a good match for your engine. And a GT35 or GT37 would work well on the Garrett side.
Hi Forcedinduction
ok I'm looking for garrett Gt35 now, What A/R would you pick on T35 for 603.960 in a G class?
Should I use wastgate and how many PSI?
What adapters do I need to buy to make it fit my engine?
New Garrett Gt35 costs about 1400$ on ebay and I am ok with that if it is the best turbo available.
Thank you very much for your help.
I´m in California until 20 jan and I need to buy a turbocharger before I go home.
Regards
Atli
(01-04-2011, 04:20 PM)ForcedInduction(01-04-2011, 05:26 AM)Atli Is this T3/T4 old design and not flowing as good as Holset and Garrett GT?Right, the T-series design is from the WWII era, the Holset and GT turbos were developed with computer aid for much better efficiency and operating range. $1100 is an extremely high price to pay, you can get much better turbos for a fraction of that.
Quote:What turbo do you hink would be better for me?An HX35 has proven a good match for your engine. And a GT35 or GT37 would work well on the Garrett side.
Hi Forcedinduction
ok I'm looking for garrett Gt35 now, What A/R would you pick on T35 for 603.960 in a G class?
Should I use wastgate and how many PSI?
What adapters do I need to buy to make it fit my engine?
New Garrett Gt35 costs about 1400$ on ebay and I am ok with that if it is the best turbo available.
Thank you very much for your help.
I´m in California until 20 jan and I need to buy a turbocharger before I go home.
Regards
Atli
01-06-2011, 12:36 PM
#6
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
01-06-2011, 12:36 PM #6Find a rebuilt hx35. So much cheaper and you might be happier with that turbo for your application. I would assume.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
01-06-2011, 04:20 PM
#7
(01-06-2011, 12:36 PM)George3soccer Find a rebuilt hx35. So much cheaper and you might be happier with that turbo for your application. I would assume.
Hi
I found HX35 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CUMMINS-D...2888wt_941
Is HX 35 simular in size as GT35? Who will kikk in first??
What do you guis think will happen if I will put it on my engine and use original pump? Will it be much slower to respond than my original KKK? (my pump is in 7mm eliment mod, but I dont know when it will be finish)
Do the exhaust flange fit? Is it ok to bolt it on even tho it is splited?
Thank you for helping me.
Regards
Atli
(01-06-2011, 12:36 PM)George3soccer Find a rebuilt hx35. So much cheaper and you might be happier with that turbo for your application. I would assume.
Hi
I found HX35 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CUMMINS-D...2888wt_941
Is HX 35 simular in size as GT35? Who will kikk in first??
What do you guis think will happen if I will put it on my engine and use original pump? Will it be much slower to respond than my original KKK? (my pump is in 7mm eliment mod, but I dont know when it will be finish)
Do the exhaust flange fit? Is it ok to bolt it on even tho it is splited?
Thank you for helping me.
Regards
Atli
01-08-2011, 02:51 PM
#8
(01-06-2011, 04:20 PM)Atlihi,(01-06-2011, 12:36 PM)George3soccer Find a rebuilt hx35. So much cheaper and you might be happier with that turbo for your application. I would assume.
Hi
I found HX35 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CUMMINS-D...2888wt_941
Is HX 35 simular in size as GT35? Who will kikk in first??
What do you guis think will happen if I will put it on my engine and use original pump? Will it be much slower to respond than my original KKK? (my pump is in 7mm eliment mod, but I dont know when it will be finish)
Do the exhaust flange fit? Is it ok to bolt it on even tho it is splited?
Thank you for helping me.
Regards
Atli
you could fit a quick spool valve. Im going to run a hx35 on om605 very soon with one. Check out quick spool valve on youtube and google it as well.
(01-06-2011, 04:20 PM)Atlihi,(01-06-2011, 12:36 PM)George3soccer Find a rebuilt hx35. So much cheaper and you might be happier with that turbo for your application. I would assume.
Hi
I found HX35 on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CUMMINS-D...2888wt_941
Is HX 35 simular in size as GT35? Who will kikk in first??
What do you guis think will happen if I will put it on my engine and use original pump? Will it be much slower to respond than my original KKK? (my pump is in 7mm eliment mod, but I dont know when it will be finish)
Do the exhaust flange fit? Is it ok to bolt it on even tho it is splited?
Thank you for helping me.
Regards
Atli
you could fit a quick spool valve. Im going to run a hx35 on om605 very soon with one. Check out quick spool valve on youtube and google it as well.
01-08-2011, 04:17 PM
#9
jonbobshinigin
01-08-2011, 04:17 PM #9Those appear to be clones and no genuine Holsets...I do not have any personal experience with clones, but I have heard to stay away from them. I got my HX35 which was rebuilt within 3000 miles ago and I paid $250 no too far from here. Deals can be found.
01-09-2011, 11:59 AM
#11
The hx35 has a t3 style inlet flange and a 2.75" v-band for the exhaust. On mine it also had a v-band for the compressor outlet so I cut it off and made a small notch around the outlet so a boost hose won't pop off.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
I paid 600$ for a new hx35w with the 12cm housing. Not china. I also have a hx40w with a t3 flange that I paid 200$ for.
The hx35 has a t3 style inlet flange and a 2.75" v-band for the exhaust. On mine it also had a v-band for the compressor outlet so I cut it off and made a small notch around the outlet so a boost hose won't pop off.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
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