OM617 compound turbos
OM617 compound turbos
02-14-2011, 11:23 AM
#1
Low pressure turbo: Schwitzer S2E, 92 GMC Topkick (Cat 3116)
High pressure turbo: Garrett GT2256V, 03 Dodge Sprinter (OM612)
This is NOT intended to be a full-on compound system, high boost pressure is not the goal. Its intended to supplement top-end airflow, especially at high altitudes (above 8k') where the 2256 chokes out above 13psi. You could say its closer to a sequential system. Manifold boost will remain at the current 15psi, but the potential for high pressures is there if I switch back to an EGR manifold and use an external wastegate to flow around the VNT.
The up-pipe is 2.5" using welded aluminized steel exhaust pipe and a mild steel T3 flange.
The wastegate actuator is of unknown origin but bench-cracks at 8psi, which should put it in the 6-10psi desired boost range.
The second stage water injection trigger will be changed from the current 15psi manifold pressure activation to 6psi first-stage boost activation.
The expansion tank has been eliminated to clear the air filter housing and clean up the engine bay a bit. The intercooler and engine water systems have been combined with a 1/16" orifice between the circuits for level equalization.
A 15psi ISSPRO gauge will be added on top of the current tri-gauge cluster on my dash. I was going to include drive pressure but determined that information wasn't worth the $50 of another gauge, primary drive pressure is what matters most.
The air filter is from a 2008 Ford F350 6.4 Powerstroke, it uses a Donaldson PowerCore filter. I'm working on a removable rain blocker for the inlet.
The exhaust pipe is not complete, it will later have an extension with a 45* end pointing to the right. (Update: exhaust pipe) There is also a 1/8" drain on the bottom to prevent any water accumulation.
The air filter mounts securely to the hood using neodymium magnets from a hard drive. The housing must be removed to open the hood, quick and easy requiring only a 3/8" nut driver.
I'm only waiting on a 2-2.5" 45* silicone boot to attach the boost pipes between the turbos. Then it will only be cosmetic details to finish.
This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 04:05 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-14-2011, 11:23 AM
#1
I was going to wait until the project is 100% but I'm just too excited after getting it running, so ignore the hood for now...
Low pressure turbo: Schwitzer S2E, 92 GMC Topkick (Cat 3116)
High pressure turbo: Garrett GT2256V, 03 Dodge Sprinter (OM612)
This is NOT intended to be a full-on compound system, high boost pressure is not the goal. Its intended to supplement top-end airflow, especially at high altitudes (above 8k') where the 2256 chokes out above 13psi. You could say its closer to a sequential system. Manifold boost will remain at the current 15psi, but the potential for high pressures is there if I switch back to an EGR manifold and use an external wastegate to flow around the VNT.
The up-pipe is 2.5" using welded aluminized steel exhaust pipe and a mild steel T3 flange.
The wastegate actuator is of unknown origin but bench-cracks at 8psi, which should put it in the 6-10psi desired boost range.
The second stage water injection trigger will be changed from the current 15psi manifold pressure activation to 6psi first-stage boost activation.
The expansion tank has been eliminated to clear the air filter housing and clean up the engine bay a bit. The intercooler and engine water systems have been combined with a 1/16" orifice between the circuits for level equalization.
A 15psi ISSPRO gauge will be added on top of the current tri-gauge cluster on my dash. I was going to include drive pressure but determined that information wasn't worth the $50 of another gauge, primary drive pressure is what matters most.
The air filter is from a 2008 Ford F350 6.4 Powerstroke, it uses a Donaldson PowerCore filter. I'm working on a removable rain blocker for the inlet.
The exhaust pipe is not complete, it will later have an extension with a 45* end pointing to the right. (Update: exhaust pipe) There is also a 1/8" drain on the bottom to prevent any water accumulation.
The air filter mounts securely to the hood using neodymium magnets from a hard drive. The housing must be removed to open the hood, quick and easy requiring only a 3/8" nut driver.
I'm only waiting on a 2-2.5" 45* silicone boot to attach the boost pipes between the turbos. Then it will only be cosmetic details to finish.
02-14-2011, 11:55 AM
#4
. Are you going to install a flap on the exhaust?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
02-14-2011, 11:58 AM
#5
(02-14-2011, 11:55 AM)winmutt Are you going to install a flap on the exhaust?
I considered it for about 5 seconds until I decided the clinking would be too annoying and it would also look very cheezy. I will be adding an extension with a 45* angle end later on. I don't want to pay the $120 for a chrome one right now, other areas have priority.
ForcedInduction
02-14-2011, 11:58 AM
#5
(02-14-2011, 11:55 AM)winmutt Are you going to install a flap on the exhaust?
I considered it for about 5 seconds until I decided the clinking would be too annoying and it would also look very cheezy. I will be adding an extension with a 45* angle end later on. I don't want to pay the $120 for a chrome one right now, other areas have priority.
02-14-2011, 12:40 PM
#6
I like the look of the turbo and stack but the air cleaner looks like a missile launcher!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-14-2011, 12:40 PM #6Are you going to put a flapper on that stack to keep the rain or snow out? or will it be OK like that?
I like the look of the turbo and stack but the air cleaner looks like a missile launcher!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
02-14-2011, 12:49 PM
#7
ForcedInduction
02-14-2011, 12:49 PM
#7
Unless there is a massive downpour the drain hole should prevent any water buildup.
02-14-2011, 12:56 PM
#8
I like the fact that it's different!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-14-2011, 12:56 PM #8Mad Max you need to get that puppy in some flat black and remove the front fenders!
I like the fact that it's different!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
02-14-2011, 01:11 PM
#9
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
02-14-2011, 01:11 PM #9I'd be very interested to see what kind of flange/pipe connection you have between the turbines, and also is the weight of the second turbo entirely on the exhaust manifold?
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
02-14-2011, 01:32 PM
#10
The weight is split 3 ways; the turbo outlet flange stops torsional vibration, the old downpipe manifold bracket supports some weight and a bracket from the T3 flange to the valvecover holds what it can. Vibration is a concern though, only time will tell if the pipe/manifold/bracket/vlavecover can support 30lbs hanging off them!
ForcedInduction
02-14-2011, 01:32 PM
#10
Its 2.5" V-band on the outlet and a generic eBay T3 flange on the inlet.
The weight is split 3 ways; the turbo outlet flange stops torsional vibration, the old downpipe manifold bracket supports some weight and a bracket from the T3 flange to the valvecover holds what it can. Vibration is a concern though, only time will tell if the pipe/manifold/bracket/vlavecover can support 30lbs hanging off them!
02-14-2011, 01:44 PM
#11
Edit- Just read your refund was 400 bucks so nevermind, mine was over 1000 so I just assumed. It will be interesting to hear how that air filter reacts at highway speed. Or the first time you catch a bird.....
This post was last modified: 02-14-2011, 03:45 PM by led-panzer.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
02-14-2011, 01:44 PM #11Well now that you've got all that air you can just ship your tax refund straight to myna
Edit- Just read your refund was 400 bucks so nevermind, mine was over 1000 so I just assumed. It will be interesting to hear how that air filter reacts at highway speed. Or the first time you catch a bird.....
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
02-14-2011, 02:26 PM
#12
Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
02-14-2011, 02:26 PM #12Very interesting.
Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
02-14-2011, 04:03 PM
#13
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
02-14-2011, 04:03 PM #13Hope you have a good camera to film that bitch with....
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
02-14-2011, 05:06 PM
#14
(02-14-2011, 01:44 PM)led-panzer It will be interesting to hear how that air filter reacts at highway speed.
I've been up to 70mph so far, I don't want to push it without a load on the turbo. The magnets hold it pretty secure.
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
(02-14-2011, 04:03 PM)Captain America Hope you have a good camera to film that bitch with....Yep, bought an HD camera just for this project.
I went ahead and made a stack. I'll have to make an alignment notch on the flange, the vibration wiggles it down no matter how tight the clamp is. I'll probably end up installing engine shocks too.
Just driving around a few hours I've gotten quite a few thumbs up and even a guy in an Audi videoing it.
This post was last modified: 02-14-2011, 05:13 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-14-2011, 05:06 PM
#14
(02-14-2011, 01:44 PM)led-panzer It will be interesting to hear how that air filter reacts at highway speed.
I've been up to 70mph so far, I don't want to push it without a load on the turbo. The magnets hold it pretty secure.
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
(02-14-2011, 04:03 PM)Captain America Hope you have a good camera to film that bitch with....Yep, bought an HD camera just for this project.
I went ahead and made a stack. I'll have to make an alignment notch on the flange, the vibration wiggles it down no matter how tight the clamp is. I'll probably end up installing engine shocks too.
Just driving around a few hours I've gotten quite a few thumbs up and even a guy in an Audi videoing it.
02-14-2011, 06:18 PM
#15
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-14-2011, 06:18 PM #15I like the stack!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
02-14-2011, 06:47 PM
#16
1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver
1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig
1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified"
GONE
DrewGerhan
02-14-2011, 06:47 PM #16That puts the stack I had to shame! What does it sound like when its building boost? Prolly pretty friggen sweet huh?
1981 300SD 230k miles "Gently Modified" Daily Driver
1999 F-250 7.3L Power Stroke 150k miles "The Usual Mods" Tow Rig
1981 300SD 190k miles "Heavily Modified"
GONE
02-14-2011, 07:00 PM
#17
" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"
Riverstick
02-14-2011, 07:00 PM #17Well done Forced....I've been observing your signature for a while where you mention the 4" hood stack and was wondering about it......job very well executed...Can I ask why don't you increase the psi/fuel delivery and land the output into the 250bhp plus category?
" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"
02-14-2011, 07:30 PM
#18
(02-14-2011, 05:06 PM)ForcedInduction ..
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
...
I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.
Then you can mount the turbo facing the other way.
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
DeliveryValve
02-14-2011, 07:30 PM #18(02-14-2011, 05:06 PM)ForcedInduction ..
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
...
I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.
Then you can mount the turbo facing the other way.
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
02-14-2011, 10:00 PM
#21
It looks great except for the filter. I honestly don't see the need for it. What's wrong with what you had?
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
So what's the plan for fuel?
It looks great except for the filter. I honestly don't see the need for it. What's wrong with what you had?
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
02-14-2011, 10:18 PM
#22
(02-14-2011, 07:30 PM)DeliveryValve(02-14-2011, 05:06 PM)ForcedInduction ..
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
...
I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.
Then you can mount the turbo facing the other way.
.
you know, your cowgirl is pretty distracting :p
Forced,
your innovation is always appreciated
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
(02-14-2011, 07:30 PM)DeliveryValve(02-14-2011, 05:06 PM)ForcedInduction ..
(02-14-2011, 02:26 PM)George3soccer Can you exPlain a little but more why you choose to use that powerstroke intake system.Powercore filters are the best on the market. They filter better than paper and have huge surface area in a compact space. The only down side is price.
...
I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.
Then you can mount the turbo facing the other way.
.
you know, your cowgirl is pretty distracting :p
Forced,
your innovation is always appreciated
Toyota fj40 Landcruiser with a Mercedes om617 3.0L turbo diesel
02-15-2011, 04:09 AM
#23
(02-14-2011, 07:00 PM)Riverstick Can I ask why don't you increase the psi/fuel delivery and land the output into the 250bhp plus category?
No Myna pump yet.
(02-14-2011, 07:30 PM)DeliveryValve I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.I changed my mind against cutting the firewall. I barely had the heart to cut the hood!
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 04:09 AM
#23
(02-14-2011, 07:00 PM)Riverstick Can I ask why don't you increase the psi/fuel delivery and land the output into the 250bhp plus category?
No Myna pump yet.
(02-14-2011, 07:30 PM)DeliveryValve I thought you were going to keep the filter box inside the cabin.I changed my mind against cutting the firewall. I barely had the heart to cut the hood!
02-15-2011, 08:03 AM
#25
Really radical & different, but I personally woulda done something different for an ait cleaner housing. The mailman might try to put junkmail in there.... LOL
Ed
yankneck696
02-15-2011, 08:03 AM #25Are you worried about visibility and/or overzealous cops? Or is this going to be track only? Also, I THINK there are DOT regs about exhaust exiting after passenger compartment windows.
Really radical & different, but I personally woulda done something different for an ait cleaner housing. The mailman might try to put junkmail in there.... LOL
Ed
02-15-2011, 08:04 AM
#26
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
02-15-2011, 08:04 AM #26Still a serious PITA. At least with the firewall you could weld a patch and cover it up.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
02-15-2011, 08:06 AM
#27
(02-15-2011, 08:03 AM)yankneck696 Are you worried about visibility and/or overzealous cops?Three drove by me yesterday without even a head turn.
Visibility is fine. Try driving a semi, its far worse. I have my CDL so technically I could argue I'm a "professional driver".
This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 08:08 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 08:06 AM
#27
(02-15-2011, 08:03 AM)yankneck696 Are you worried about visibility and/or overzealous cops?Three drove by me yesterday without even a head turn.
Visibility is fine. Try driving a semi, its far worse. I have my CDL so technically I could argue I'm a "professional driver".
02-15-2011, 01:35 PM
#28
I have a GT2359V on my shelf, but at this depressing point I'm just going to get the car running great again, enjoy the summer with it and think about installing it next winter.
To get back to where it was I'll need a new downpipe, hood and coolant reservoir hose. Luckily, the scrap haulers hadn't emptied the metal bin yet so I was able to retrieve my old muffler exhaust to put back on the 240.
This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 01:42 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 01:35 PM
#28
Its time to fold the project and cut my losses. I ran it by the shop I get my emissions checked and they said there is no way they could pass it with the exhaust in front of the passenger compartment. Because of the sway bar there is no way to get a normal exhaust in there without a really funky downpipe.
I have a GT2359V on my shelf, but at this depressing point I'm just going to get the car running great again, enjoy the summer with it and think about installing it next winter.
To get back to where it was I'll need a new downpipe, hood and coolant reservoir hose. Luckily, the scrap haulers hadn't emptied the metal bin yet so I was able to retrieve my old muffler exhaust to put back on the 240.
02-15-2011, 01:47 PM
#29
It's ashamed to scrap it, because I see the potential of what your trying to achieve.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
DeliveryValve
02-15-2011, 01:47 PM #29Why not put the exhaust through the fender and out a side pipe along the rocker panel?
It's ashamed to scrap it, because I see the potential of what your trying to achieve.
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
02-15-2011, 01:52 PM
#30
Why not just run it through the firewall where the battery would have been? Or?
This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 01:55 PM by winmutt.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
02-15-2011, 02:04 PM
#31
You loop the exhaust up along the A-pillar, along the roof line, like a snorkel.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
Forced, here's what you do.
You loop the exhaust up along the A-pillar, along the roof line, like a snorkel.
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
02-15-2011, 03:19 PM
#32
(02-15-2011, 01:47 PM)DeliveryValve Why not put the exhaust through the fender and out a side pipe along the rocker panel?Unibody. Cutting through the panel would be cutting through the "frame" and compromise the body strength.
Quote:It's ashamed to scrap it, because I see the potential of what your trying to achieve.Its sad, I know. But there are even better things on the horizon. Cummins is now putting VGT turbos on their 3.3L and 4.5L engines, its only a matter of time before they start to appear on eBay.
Quote:Or just run the pipe over the top of the carYou're the 6th person today to say that, 300D50 makes 7.
In any case its all past tense now, the S2E is in my fireplace with the HE341Ve as a reminder to myself to "think better". Between the two projects, thats $1400 down the shitter for absolutely nothing. Thats a Myna pump, one of those new 4.5L Holset VGTs, or hell, another car!
(at myself)
This post was last modified: 02-15-2011, 03:27 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 03:19 PM
#32
(02-15-2011, 01:47 PM)DeliveryValve Why not put the exhaust through the fender and out a side pipe along the rocker panel?Unibody. Cutting through the panel would be cutting through the "frame" and compromise the body strength.
Quote:It's ashamed to scrap it, because I see the potential of what your trying to achieve.Its sad, I know. But there are even better things on the horizon. Cummins is now putting VGT turbos on their 3.3L and 4.5L engines, its only a matter of time before they start to appear on eBay.
Quote:Or just run the pipe over the top of the carYou're the 6th person today to say that, 300D50 makes 7.
In any case its all past tense now, the S2E is in my fireplace with the HE341Ve as a reminder to myself to "think better". Between the two projects, thats $1400 down the shitter for absolutely nothing. Thats a Myna pump, one of those new 4.5L Holset VGTs, or hell, another car!
(at myself)
02-15-2011, 03:29 PM
#33
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
You can always do what some of the hondon't kids do, and put the turbo at the end of the car before the fart can, so it "breaths better".
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
02-15-2011, 03:46 PM
#34
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 03:46 PM
#34
A rear turbo would be interesting, but the volume of fabrication is well beyond what I'm in the mindset to accomplish after this.
02-15-2011, 04:24 PM
#35
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
02-15-2011, 04:24 PM #35Move to Ohio, if the vehicle is over 25 years old its exempt from emissions testing. Or just ship it to me
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
02-15-2011, 05:45 PM
#36
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-15-2011, 05:45 PM #36Just run it like that all year! And before you do emissions run it temporary down the side of the car who cares like you said the cops don't care and even if they did it would be a warning or a $15 ticket
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
02-15-2011, 05:46 PM
#37
1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72
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My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.
02-15-2011, 07:03 PM
#39
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
Ca doesn't even smog older diesels. I'd turn the turbo around and run the exhaust forward down then back.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
02-15-2011, 07:52 PM
#41
Ed
yankneck696
02-15-2011, 07:52 PM #41Florida doesn't even have inspections. Sorry man.... You could always just make it a track car & show the ricers that you can do it with a diesel sled.
Ed
02-15-2011, 07:55 PM
#42
(02-15-2011, 07:52 PM)yankneck696 You could always just make it a track car & show the ricers that you can do it with a diesel sled.
If only I had the money for a strictly toy car.
ForcedInduction
02-15-2011, 07:55 PM
#42
(02-15-2011, 07:52 PM)yankneck696 You could always just make it a track car & show the ricers that you can do it with a diesel sled.
If only I had the money for a strictly toy car.
02-15-2011, 08:26 PM
#43
1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.
2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
Well, it was fun while it lasted, I reckon'...
1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.
2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
02-15-2011, 09:55 PM
#44
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
Damnit. That was a kickass set up too.
82 300SD aka The Flyin Pumpkin (Gone): 7.5mm super M-pump, T3 60 trim turbo, Coldish air intake, A/W intercooler, propane injection, SW Boost and EGT gauges, Monark 265 nozzles, ported/polished cylinder head.
84 Euro 300D 4 sp: White with black trunk and hood. Blue cloth interior. Manual everything. 300DT front swaybar. C320 17" wheels. Now with the Flyin Pumpkins engine!
02-15-2011, 10:14 PM
#45
Sorry to hear you gave up on it. That was some cool fabrication and engine work.
Did you ever dyno and video it runing never so any post of that?
Keep up the cool work you inspire some of us
08 Ram Cummins 6.7 Mega Cab 4wd Beauty & Towing Mods, 97 Ram Cummins 5.9 Extended Cab 4wd. Engine, Tansmission, and Funtional Mods, 90 Suburban 4wd Stock, 83 300D Pats Car, 80 300CD in Restoration and Fabrication Process( was non turbo...now Turbo
) 75 Ramcharger 4wd Someday Cummins Power Project
Oil Burner
02-15-2011, 10:14 PM #45Forced
Sorry to hear you gave up on it. That was some cool fabrication and engine work.
Did you ever dyno and video it runing never so any post of that?
Keep up the cool work you inspire some of us
08 Ram Cummins 6.7 Mega Cab 4wd Beauty & Towing Mods, 97 Ram Cummins 5.9 Extended Cab 4wd. Engine, Tansmission, and Funtional Mods, 90 Suburban 4wd Stock, 83 300D Pats Car, 80 300CD in Restoration and Fabrication Process( was non turbo...now Turbo
) 75 Ramcharger 4wd Someday Cummins Power Project
02-16-2011, 04:14 PM
#46
OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
02-16-2011, 04:26 PM
#47
(02-16-2011, 04:14 PM)jeemu Its good you remove those on that car.
I don't think he would get in any trouble in this country for that set up!
Evan if they wont run it through emissions the police just turn a blind eye to the fact that it wouldn't pass
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
02-16-2011, 04:26 PM #47(02-16-2011, 04:14 PM)jeemu Its good you remove those on that car.
I don't think he would get in any trouble in this country for that set up!
Evan if they wont run it through emissions the police just turn a blind eye to the fact that it wouldn't pass
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
02-16-2011, 09:35 PM
#48
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
Are you going to sell the s2e?
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
02-17-2011, 07:05 AM
#49
(02-16-2011, 09:35 PM)dieselboy Are you going to sell the s2e?
Maybe. I'd take $50 plus shipping.
ForcedInduction
02-17-2011, 07:05 AM
#49
(02-16-2011, 09:35 PM)dieselboy Are you going to sell the s2e?
Maybe. I'd take $50 plus shipping.
02-17-2011, 09:34 AM
#50
(02-16-2011, 04:14 PM)jeemu Its good you remove those on that car.
Why? Its what I would call ghetto faboulous but it sure would have been fun to see it running.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
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