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e85 injection?

e85 injection?

 
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larsalan
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02-16-2011, 05:27 PM #1
What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water


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larsalan
02-16-2011, 05:27 PM #1

What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water


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yankneck696
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02-16-2011, 07:08 PM #2
That happens with boats all the time here in Floriduh.... But seriously, don't quote me, but a 4:1 ratio of water to ethanol before precipitation out of the gas. So, you'd have to proportion water to alcohol a bit light to keep it in suspension. That may end up with too much gasoline for a CI engine, I think. But, then again, what the hell, give it a try if you want, just make sure to video it.

Ed
yankneck696
02-16-2011, 07:08 PM #2

That happens with boats all the time here in Floriduh.... But seriously, don't quote me, but a 4:1 ratio of water to ethanol before precipitation out of the gas. So, you'd have to proportion water to alcohol a bit light to keep it in suspension. That may end up with too much gasoline for a CI engine, I think. But, then again, what the hell, give it a try if you want, just make sure to video it.

Ed

larsalan
Superturbo

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02-16-2011, 07:49 PM #3
Totally don't understand?

I am saying e85 might be a cheap source for ethyl alcohol. but it's not guaranteed 85% alcohol. might be less. And the gas is concern

I guess the majority of gas would float when mixed with water. While the majority of ethanol would be dissolved into the water. Just need to skim off some gas and find somewhere to use it.
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larsalan
02-16-2011, 07:49 PM #3

Totally don't understand?

I am saying e85 might be a cheap source for ethyl alcohol. but it's not guaranteed 85% alcohol. might be less. And the gas is concern

I guess the majority of gas would float when mixed with water. While the majority of ethanol would be dissolved into the water. Just need to skim off some gas and find somewhere to use it.


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larsalan
Superturbo

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02-16-2011, 10:32 PM #4
confirmed

"... but the gasoline-ethanol bonding is weak relative to water-ethanol bonding, so the gasoline will separate out and fl oat toward the surface."

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http://www.nrt.org/production/NRT/NRTWeb...22610.pdf/$File/ETOH-85-Final_Rev00_2010_halfpt%20increase_022610.pdf?OpenElement


sounds like a plan

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larsalan
02-16-2011, 10:32 PM #4

confirmed

"... but the gasoline-ethanol bonding is weak relative to water-ethanol bonding, so the gasoline will separate out and fl oat toward the surface."

-
http://www.nrt.org/production/NRT/NRTWeb...22610.pdf/$File/ETOH-85-Final_Rev00_2010_halfpt%20increase_022610.pdf?OpenElement


sounds like a plan


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02-16-2011, 11:43 PM #5
Skim off the gas, dry it, and throw it in the mower?

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300D50
02-16-2011, 11:43 PM #5

Skim off the gas, dry it, and throw it in the mower?


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ForcedInduction
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02-17-2011, 07:11 AM #6
(02-16-2011, 05:27 PM)larsalan What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water

No good. Gasoline (oil) does not mix with water. Methanol is about $2.90/gal which makes it about equal $/btu as diesel.
ForcedInduction
02-17-2011, 07:11 AM #6

(02-16-2011, 05:27 PM)larsalan What would you think about mixing e85 into water for a water injection system?
Like 1gal e85/ 10 gal water

No good. Gasoline (oil) does not mix with water. Methanol is about $2.90/gal which makes it about equal $/btu as diesel.

larsalan
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02-17-2011, 07:41 AM #7
where would you buy a gallon of methanol?

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larsalan
02-17-2011, 07:41 AM #7

where would you buy a gallon of methanol?


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ForcedInduction
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02-17-2011, 07:43 AM #8
Pretty much any racetrack. If your city has an industrial area there is usually a fuel/oil supply chain that sells many varieties of fuels.
ForcedInduction
02-17-2011, 07:43 AM #8

Pretty much any racetrack. If your city has an industrial area there is usually a fuel/oil supply chain that sells many varieties of fuels.

 
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