STD Tuning Engine OM606 Crankshaft Bolt

OM606 Crankshaft Bolt

OM606 Crankshaft Bolt

 
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gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
02-28-2011, 02:41 PM #1
Well I was driving home from school today and I thought the alternator failed...come to find out the harmonic balancer bolt loosened up and none of my accessories were spinning.
I haven't got it apart yet but I'm guessing the crankshaft and pulley are f'd up. For those who have this engine or similar engines check to make sure this bolt is tight!

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
02-28-2011, 02:41 PM #1

Well I was driving home from school today and I thought the alternator failed...come to find out the harmonic balancer bolt loosened up and none of my accessories were spinning.
I haven't got it apart yet but I'm guessing the crankshaft and pulley are f'd up. For those who have this engine or similar engines check to make sure this bolt is tight!


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
02-28-2011, 03:11 PM #2
OOF. Not sure on the 606 but on the 617 this is not so easy to fix.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
02-28-2011, 03:11 PM #2

OOF. Not sure on the 606 but on the 617 this is not so easy to fix.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
02-28-2011, 08:02 PM #3
Just got it apart. Both the crankshaft snout and balancer are thrashed. Pretty disappointed. Now I have to decide if I'm going to part out the car or fix this thing.

Anybody have a crankshaft and balancer? Or does anybody need some w210 parts?

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
02-28-2011, 08:02 PM #3

Just got it apart. Both the crankshaft snout and balancer are thrashed. Pretty disappointed. Now I have to decide if I'm going to part out the car or fix this thing.

Anybody have a crankshaft and balancer? Or does anybody need some w210 parts?


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

aaa
GT2256V

913
02-28-2011, 08:23 PM #4
Pics?
aaa
02-28-2011, 08:23 PM #4

Pics?

E300TSC
Turbo-Supercharged

321
02-28-2011, 09:46 PM #5
Holy schneikies, that's bad... Sorry to hear it. Ironically, I was fiddling with the bolt on mine yesterday, wondering what size it is...

1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
E300TSC
02-28-2011, 09:46 PM #5

Holy schneikies, that's bad... Sorry to hear it. Ironically, I was fiddling with the bolt on mine yesterday, wondering what size it is...


1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.

2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
02-28-2011, 11:22 PM #6
Here's some pics
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...%20Pulley/

The bolt appears to be M18x1.5 and 50mm in length

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
02-28-2011, 11:22 PM #6

Here's some pics
http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...%20Pulley/

The bolt appears to be M18x1.5 and 50mm in length


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
03-01-2011, 12:45 AM #7
That sucks! Have you ever done anything with that assembly prior to this failure?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
03-01-2011, 12:45 AM #7

That sucks! Have you ever done anything with that assembly prior to this failure?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
03-01-2011, 01:03 AM #8
Nope. Never touched the harmonic balancer. It makes me sooo mad too because 2 days ago I had the belt off looking for a squeak in the accessories. I thought it was the idler pulley, but I guess I was wrong on that one...

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
03-01-2011, 01:03 AM #8

Nope. Never touched the harmonic balancer. It makes me sooo mad too because 2 days ago I had the belt off looking for a squeak in the accessories. I thought it was the idler pulley, but I guess I was wrong on that one...


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

jonbobshinigin
Holset

292
03-01-2011, 01:42 AM #9
Terrible luck man...I've never heard of this failure before on a 60x. I recently replaced my crankshaft hub and seal and this make me kind of leary!

What would be the correct "repair"? Replacing the crankshaft?

1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

jonbobshinigin
03-01-2011, 01:42 AM #9

Terrible luck man...I've never heard of this failure before on a 60x. I recently replaced my crankshaft hub and seal and this make me kind of leary!

What would be the correct "repair"? Replacing the crankshaft?


1987 300TDT - 260,000 Miles
>>275HP OM603 Project Profile here<<

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
03-01-2011, 11:34 AM #10
Yes. Replacing the crankshaft would be the only true fix I see. Or a guy could tighten the balancer down, weld it, and go with it. But that's definitely not the correct fix. I'm sure it would be outta balance and the front seal would probably leak....among other things.
I'm parting out the car. Virtually every part is good except the crankshaft and balancer...so disappointing.
This post was last modified: 03-01-2011, 12:14 PM by gen3performance.

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
03-01-2011, 11:34 AM #10

Yes. Replacing the crankshaft would be the only true fix I see. Or a guy could tighten the balancer down, weld it, and go with it. But that's definitely not the correct fix. I'm sure it would be outta balance and the front seal would probably leak....among other things.


I'm parting out the car. Virtually every part is good except the crankshaft and balancer...so disappointing.


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

jeemu
&quot;some people do, some people talk.&quot;

457
03-01-2011, 01:33 PM #11
Change old type damper on it, from 603. That 606 damper not good.

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
jeemu
03-01-2011, 01:33 PM #11

Change old type damper on it, from 603. That 606 damper not good.


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
03-01-2011, 02:05 PM #12
So is the crankshaft and damper from a 603 the same as the 606?

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
03-01-2011, 02:05 PM #12

So is the crankshaft and damper from a 603 the same as the 606?


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

muuris
OM605

318
03-01-2011, 04:48 PM #13
(03-01-2011, 02:05 PM)gen3performance So is the crankshaft and damper from a 603 the same as the 606?
Damper isn't the same, but it will fit.
muuris
03-01-2011, 04:48 PM #13

(03-01-2011, 02:05 PM)gen3performance So is the crankshaft and damper from a 603 the same as the 606?
Damper isn't the same, but it will fit.

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
03-01-2011, 05:17 PM #14
So you are saying there is no difference between the 603 crankshaft and the 606? I can replace the 606 crankshaft with a 603?

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
03-01-2011, 05:17 PM #14

So you are saying there is no difference between the 603 crankshaft and the 606? I can replace the 606 crankshaft with a 603?


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

Riverstick
GT2256V

114
03-01-2011, 05:49 PM #15
That crankshaft looks like a problem a good machine shop could fix....Irrespective of which type of damper you fit,put on a new one...less vibrations = less damage....vibrations kill your engine.....eventually

" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"
Riverstick
03-01-2011, 05:49 PM #15

That crankshaft looks like a problem a good machine shop could fix....Irrespective of which type of damper you fit,put on a new one...less vibrations = less damage....vibrations kill your engine.....eventually


" It is far easier to get forgiveness rather than permission"

jeemu
&quot;some people do, some people talk.&quot;

457
03-02-2011, 11:57 AM #16
(03-01-2011, 05:17 PM)gen3performance So you are saying there is no difference between the 603 crankshaft and the 606? I can replace the 606 crankshaft with a 603?
yes you can use 603 crank. I have 602 crank on my 605 engine.


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis
jeemu
03-02-2011, 11:57 AM #16

(03-01-2011, 05:17 PM)gen3performance So you are saying there is no difference between the 603 crankshaft and the 606? I can replace the 606 crankshaft with a 603?
yes you can use 603 crank. I have 602 crank on my 605 engine.


OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

Einar
GT2256V

118
03-02-2011, 02:26 PM #17
Same crank on both 603 and 606, W and W/O turbo.
Einar
03-02-2011, 02:26 PM #17

Same crank on both 603 and 606, W and W/O turbo.

gen3performance
I like the smell of No. 2......

89
03-02-2011, 03:03 PM #18
That is good to know! I remember hearing about some differences between the 617 turbo and non turbo crankshafts with nitriding and such.

But if all 603 and 606 cranks are the same then I have more options! Thanks guys!

1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/
gen3performance
03-02-2011, 03:03 PM #18

That is good to know! I remember hearing about some differences between the 617 turbo and non turbo crankshafts with nitriding and such.

But if all 603 and 606 cranks are the same then I have more options! Thanks guys!


1981 300SD...Too much propane = bent rods. Junked
1980 240D...Body fell off. Saved drivetrain and junked
1985 300D...No.2 and N2O = 16.35@85mph. Sold Sad
1999 E300TD...3" exhaust with banks muffler, Hx-35, 215hp tune, IP resistor box, bad crankshaft snout Angry
2005 E320 CDI...AMG injectors, EGR removed, mapping

Vids! http://www.youtube.com/user/silverado408
Pics! http://s776.photobucket.com/albums/yy42/...rformance/

 
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