8mm elements
8mm elements
They are out there, I have been in touch with Bosch NA and the SE IVECO rep trying to get the IVECO partnumber for these.
1418415049 is the Bosch part number for the element for the Bosch part number PES6MW280/720RS1015 injection pump.
I found a place in Turkey that has them but I do not speak Turkish. I am going to speak with my cousin and see if he can help me track them down in EU if I have no further luck here.
(12-30-2008, 06:18 PM)winmutt They are out there, I have been in touch with Bosch NA and the SE IVECO rep trying to get the IVECO partnumber for these.
1418415049 is the Bosch part number for the element for the Bosch part number PES6MW280/720RS1015 injection pump.
I found a place in Turkey that has them but I do not speak Turkish. I am going to speak with my cousin and see if he can help me track them down in EU if I have no further luck here.
Hi,
I think the number is wrong.
8 mm elements should be:
1 418 415 058 PES6MW80 ...
If you are really interested in 8 mm elements I can check the price and availability here in Germany (or even Europe) for you.
Bosch or after market?
The 8 mm MW element is 251 EUR a piece in BOSCH (GERMANY)
Tom
(12-30-2008, 06:18 PM)winmutt They are out there, I have been in touch with Bosch NA and the SE IVECO rep trying to get the IVECO partnumber for these.
1418415049 is the Bosch part number for the element for the Bosch part number PES6MW280/720RS1015 injection pump.
I found a place in Turkey that has them but I do not speak Turkish. I am going to speak with my cousin and see if he can help me track them down in EU if I have no further luck here.
I assumed 280 did not mean 28mm. That would be insane. It was the one that was commonly found.
Talk to these ppl: http://www.ak-say.com.tr/arakategori.asp...fset=12180
Conversion was $90 roughly IF that is Turkish Lira and not euros. I can't find a translator for turkish to english that does whole websites.
This was another one I found :
418 415 094 PES6MW80/720RS1164
Both are listed on that site.
IIRC Bosch NA said the 049 WAS 8mm as well. Since it was for Iveco and others I figured it was easier to find.
PLEASE let us know what happens.
http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/rueck-koe...-pump.html
I emailed these guys as well.
(01-02-2009, 06:21 PM)winmutt http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/rueck-koe...-pump.html
I emailed these guys as well.
(01-02-2009, 06:21 PM)winmutt http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/rueck-koe...-pump.html
I emailed these guys as well.
(12-31-2008, 01:39 PM)winmutt Conversion was $90 roughly IF that is Turkish Lira and not euros.
(12-31-2008, 01:39 PM)winmutt Conversion was $90 roughly IF that is Turkish Lira and not euros.
(01-05-2009, 11:24 AM)winmutt That is not cheap. Is there any way you can try to track down the FIAT/Iveco number?
(01-05-2009, 11:24 AM)winmutt That is not cheap. Is there any way you can try to track down the FIAT/Iveco number?
(01-06-2009, 10:33 AM)winmutt Tom,
Thanks for the leg work, 130 euro is not so bad really. I doubt we could get it cheaper here locally but who knows?
-Rolf
(01-06-2009, 10:33 AM)winmutt Tom,
Thanks for the leg work, 130 euro is not so bad really. I doubt we could get it cheaper here locally but who knows?
-Rolf
(01-07-2009, 12:57 PM)tomnikHi Tom.(01-06-2009, 10:33 AM)winmutt Tom,
Thanks for the leg work, 130 euro is not so bad really. I doubt we could get it cheaper here locally but who knows?
-Rolf
Hi Rolf,
Hi Sam,
IVECO can't find their number.
BUT after some phone calls I found at my supplier for my other MW stuff
the 1 418 415 058 for Renault.
The bad news: I have to take at least 25 pieces...
The good news: the price is 82 EUR/piece!!!! (+shipping).
(available within some days)
The other company r+k is still in Christmas-sleep.
I still believe the 8 mm are too large for me. If you can find 5 people, I will organise the parts. (but only if the first who have them installed let us know how the car idles and drives).
Tom
(01-07-2009, 12:57 PM)tomnikHi Tom.(01-06-2009, 10:33 AM)winmutt Tom,
Thanks for the leg work, 130 euro is not so bad really. I doubt we could get it cheaper here locally but who knows?
-Rolf
Hi Rolf,
Hi Sam,
IVECO can't find their number.
BUT after some phone calls I found at my supplier for my other MW stuff
the 1 418 415 058 for Renault.
The bad news: I have to take at least 25 pieces...
The good news: the price is 82 EUR/piece!!!! (+shipping).
(available within some days)
The other company r+k is still in Christmas-sleep.
I still believe the 8 mm are too large for me. If you can find 5 people, I will organise the parts. (but only if the first who have them installed let us know how the car idles and drives).
Tom
(01-08-2009, 09:49 AM)winmutt Interesting. This may be as well what I read regarding 8mm vs 10mm lift on another forum.
Sam, can you find out what the lift is for which one. You can always grind the cam.
(01-08-2009, 09:49 AM)winmutt Interesting. This may be as well what I read regarding 8mm vs 10mm lift on another forum.
Sam, can you find out what the lift is for which one. You can always grind the cam.
(01-08-2009, 03:57 AM)sweden Ive been looking through the above numbers of elements and injectionpump numbers. For example PESMW80/720RS1164, the last for didgits are 1000 something, and thats a 1000 series pump, and these elements wont fit (my engine 617.952)because the 1000 series pump have a diffrent cam lift compare to my pump PES5MW55/320RS16. 16 stands for (0-100) the hundred pump series. And a 1000 series pump does not fit the 617.952 engine.
(01-08-2009, 03:57 AM)sweden I had a long chat with my diesel-mecanic about this. The elements I use (10mm) is from a 6 liter Volvo lorry, these elements does not have that "cut" on the top of the elements, the "cut" change the igintion to get the engine run smoother on idle.
(01-08-2009, 03:57 AM)sweden Ive been looking through the above numbers of elements and injectionpump numbers. For example PESMW80/720RS1164, the last for didgits are 1000 something, and thats a 1000 series pump, and these elements wont fit (my engine 617.952)because the 1000 series pump have a diffrent cam lift compare to my pump PES5MW55/320RS16. 16 stands for (0-100) the hundred pump series. And a 1000 series pump does not fit the 617.952 engine.
(01-08-2009, 03:57 AM)sweden I had a long chat with my diesel-mecanic about this. The elements I use (10mm) is from a 6 liter Volvo lorry, these elements does not have that "cut" on the top of the elements, the "cut" change the igintion to get the engine run smoother on idle.
(01-12-2009, 10:24 AM)winmutt Tomnik, are you going to be willing to handle this as a group buy? I think I am in for a set as well.
(01-12-2009, 10:24 AM)winmutt Tomnik, are you going to be willing to handle this as a group buy? I think I am in for a set as well.
(01-13-2009, 12:59 AM)bgkast So what is the cost in USD, and when would we have to pay?
I would be more interested in a group buy for 6 or 6.5 MM elements.
(01-13-2009, 12:59 AM)bgkast So what is the cost in USD, and when would we have to pay?
I would be more interested in a group buy for 6 or 6.5 MM elements.
(01-13-2009, 01:50 AM)tomnik(01-13-2009, 12:59 AM)bgkast So what is the cost in USD, and when would we have to pay?
I would be more interested in a group buy for 6 or 6.5 MM elements.
You mean MW?
I have 2 sets of 6 mm MW right now. (75 EUR/each)
6.5mm are in progress (maybe April).
Group buy for the custom made is not possible within these quantities.
For the 8 mm after market it is just the minimum order quantity (25 pieces).
Tom
(01-13-2009, 01:50 AM)tomnik(01-13-2009, 12:59 AM)bgkast So what is the cost in USD, and when would we have to pay?
I would be more interested in a group buy for 6 or 6.5 MM elements.
You mean MW?
I have 2 sets of 6 mm MW right now. (75 EUR/each)
6.5mm are in progress (maybe April).
Group buy for the custom made is not possible within these quantities.
For the 8 mm after market it is just the minimum order quantity (25 pieces).
Tom
(01-13-2009, 10:13 AM)winmutt But you only have the plungers right? The holder still has to be bored out?
With the 8mm the only uncertainty is the cam height, if it is different, by how much. Can you not call Bosch Europe and get the specs from them?
(01-13-2009, 10:13 AM)winmutt But you only have the plungers right? The holder still has to be bored out?
With the 8mm the only uncertainty is the cam height, if it is different, by how much. Can you not call Bosch Europe and get the specs from them?
(01-13-2009, 01:09 PM)tomnik No, plunger and barrel (element).
The cam lift for original purpose of 8 mm MW element is 10 mm.
Ours is 8mm cam lift, but the barrel is the same (except the bore of course).
I have a MW 100 and our MW 55 on the table and these are interchangeable.
So the MW 80 should be similar to the MW 100.
As said before I have to check the plunger of the MW 80 to be sure that these can be used in our (8 mm cam lift) IPs.
Asking Bosch such things impossible. They won't tell you the actual time as a private person.
Tom
(01-13-2009, 01:09 PM)tomnik No, plunger and barrel (element).
The cam lift for original purpose of 8 mm MW element is 10 mm.
Ours is 8mm cam lift, but the barrel is the same (except the bore of course).
I have a MW 100 and our MW 55 on the table and these are interchangeable.
So the MW 80 should be similar to the MW 100.
As said before I have to check the plunger of the MW 80 to be sure that these can be used in our (8 mm cam lift) IPs.
Asking Bosch such things impossible. They won't tell you the actual time as a private person.
Tom
Granted...I'm a new guy but I've got high hopes for my 300k plus mile uberwagon. Count me in for a set of 8's assuming they're plug and play. I'm thinking the extra fuel will be necessary with the garrett t4/t3 I purchased.
Working on a cali intake to clear the larger compressor housing.
Thanks in advance!
I emailed a chinese factory and they have the 1 418 415 058 element for $13 USD w/ a minimum of 30 for a sample order. It might be worthwhile for someone to look into that. I would but I don't have an extra 400 bucks laying around.
http://www.chinahanji.com/MW%20PUMP-Element.asp
(01-15-2009, 12:11 AM)Section106 I emailed a chinese factory and they have the 1 418 415 058 element for $13 USD w/ a minimum of 30 for a sample order. It might be worthwhile for someone to look into that. I would but I don't have an extra 400 bucks laying around.
http://www.chinahanji.com/MW%20PUMP-Element.asp
(01-15-2009, 12:11 AM)Section106 I emailed a chinese factory and they have the 1 418 415 058 element for $13 USD w/ a minimum of 30 for a sample order. It might be worthwhile for someone to look into that. I would but I don't have an extra 400 bucks laying around.
http://www.chinahanji.com/MW%20PUMP-Element.asp
Oh I know all about the Chinese thing. I called, im'ed and emailed until my fingers were just nubs.i was told $25 minimum order 500 or something.... for $65 + shipping I am down for a set. I believe they are making these so it is entirely possible to have them adjust the length.
This is the email I recieved from ChinaHanji. I'll contribute but I doubt y'all want me to be the point man on this. I lack the expertise to ask the right questions and, as a new father, the sleep to pay enough attention!
Dear Mr. William Brown,
A nice day to you!
After checking, our factory have this element.
1 418 415 058 USD13.00/pc min. qty 30pcs for sample order
Waiting for your earliest response,
Best wishes,
Nancy Guo
ChinaHanji Power Co., Ltd.
www.chinahanji.com
www.vepump.cn
www.chinanozzle.cn
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
I always say...youll get plenty of sleep when youre dead..... but yes...I'll take some elements as well.
[quote='winmutt' pid='2143' dateline='1232048883']
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
If someone arranges this for the chinabay elements, count me in.
(01-15-2009, 05:12 PM)mrchill I always say...youll get plenty of sleep when youre dead..... but yes...I'll take some elements as well.
[quote='winmutt' pid='2143' dateline='1232048883']
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
(01-15-2009, 05:12 PM)mrchill I always say...youll get plenty of sleep when youre dead..... but yes...I'll take some elements as well.
[quote='winmutt' pid='2143' dateline='1232048883']
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
So who is best suited to collecting the money via paypal and then providing the correct specs to the Chinese to get these things on their way?
Anybody wanna be responsible for this? I'd be happy to but am relatively new to the forum and some would probably have reservations about me handling all the money. What's more? I don't have a clue as to what I'm telling them to produce for us...
While its tempting, I'd rather save for Myna to build up my M-Pump.
Did this ever go anywhere?
Quote:Dear Rolf,
Thanks for your reply.
Our company accept small order to test our quality and credit at first. Because you need one sample, we can supply 6 pcs or more if you need.
Just test our quality.
Waiting for your generous order.
best regards
Richard.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf" <rolf@winmutt.com>
To: <richard@raderauto.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1 418 415 058 price
> > Richard-
> >
> > How many are required for a test order?
> >
> > -Rolf
> >
> > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
...
Quote:Dear Rolf,
Thanks for your reply.
Our company accept small order to test our quality and credit at first. Because you need one sample, we can supply 6 pcs or more if you need.
Just test our quality.
Waiting for your generous order.
best regards
Richard.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rolf" <rolf@winmutt.com>
To: <richard@raderauto.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1 418 415 058 price
> > Richard-
> >
> > How many are required for a test order?
> >
> > -Rolf
> >
> > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
(03-16-2011, 08:26 AM)winmutt > > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
(03-16-2011, 08:26 AM)winmutt > > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
Gah... now if only I had a second IP and knew a good shop stateside for the install...
Exactly, where do I pay?!
(03-16-2011, 10:12 AM)300D50 Gah... now if only I had a second IP and new a good shop stateside for the install...
(03-16-2011, 10:12 AM)300D50 Gah... now if only I had a second IP and new a good shop stateside for the install...
True, but I can't justify getting cheap elements if I still need a pump! :p
Not everyone has junkyards full of old German iron close by...
You just made my day! I'll have to return the favor somehow though, I can't just leave you out a spare pump...
Any estimate on order timeframe?
Ditto
(03-16-2011, 09:06 AM)DeliveryValve [quote='winmutt' pid='26246' dateline='1300282008']
> > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
(01-15-2009, 05:12 PM)mrchill I always say...youll get plenty of sleep when youre dead..... but yes...I'll take some elements as well.
[quote='winmutt' pid='2143' dateline='1232048883']
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
(01-15-2009, 12:11 AM)Section106 I emailed a chinese factory and they have the 1 418 415 058 element for $13 USD w/ a minimum of 30 for a sample order. It might be worthwhile for someone to look into that. I would but I don't have an extra 400 bucks laying around.
http://www.chinahanji.com/MW%20PUMP-Element.asp
(03-16-2011, 09:06 AM)DeliveryValve [quote='winmutt' pid='26246' dateline='1300282008']
> > On 03/16/2011 02:32 AM, richard@raderauto.com wrote:
>> >> dear Rolf,
>> >>
>> >> Good day.
>> >> Last time you inquiry us the 1 418 415 058 price, and we are still waiting for your reply.
>> >>
>> >> If you make a test order, the unit price will be $11.50. if big order, there will be discount.
>> >> please let me know how many you need.
>> >>
>> >> waiting for your reply soon.
>> >>
>> >> best regards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> richard.
> >
>
(01-15-2009, 05:12 PM)mrchill I always say...youll get plenty of sleep when youre dead..... but yes...I'll take some elements as well.
[quote='winmutt' pid='2143' dateline='1232048883']
Sleep is for suckers. You'll learn this after #2.
Man this is just to good to give up. Probably throwing money into a scam but..............
(01-15-2009, 12:11 AM)Section106 I emailed a chinese factory and they have the 1 418 415 058 element for $13 USD w/ a minimum of 30 for a sample order. It might be worthwhile for someone to look into that. I would but I don't have an extra 400 bucks laying around.
http://www.chinahanji.com/MW%20PUMP-Element.asp
So does everyone need to buy their own or is it a group buy? I personally would feel better about a group buy if someone could organize it.
6 unit MW elements for a test order can be accepted , $11.50 per unit only.
anyone need. PM me.