STD Tuning Suspension torching springs

torching springs

torching springs

 
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larsalan
Superturbo

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04-30-2011, 07:51 PM #1
I was cutting up the heap today and this old time mechanic friend of mine walked by. He started telling me to save every bit of that car and that all of it could be worth money.
I had mentioned how people will cut the springs and that I had saved mine to sell them. He says cutting springs is dumb and what you should do is put heat on them while they are still in and when they shrink down blast them with a spray of water.
Ever heard of that?

Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
larsalan
04-30-2011, 07:51 PM #1

I was cutting up the heap today and this old time mechanic friend of mine walked by. He started telling me to save every bit of that car and that all of it could be worth money.
I had mentioned how people will cut the springs and that I had saved mine to sell them. He says cutting springs is dumb and what you should do is put heat on them while they are still in and when they shrink down blast them with a spray of water.
Ever heard of that?


Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
04-30-2011, 10:59 PM #2
Cutting springs can only be done effectively on certain spring types/shapes. For instance a w123 spring can be done effectively because of the shape of the lower spring perch.

Heating springs are an 'old school' method of lowering. You would torch the bottom coils until the desired height is attained. But with a modern car, the problem you run into is the spring rates will change with heating and you cannot be consistent with all the springs. So spring rates will be be random, and the ride will end up uneven and "floaty".

The other issue is the spring would be weakened. So the possibility for the coil to crack apart is great.

If the spring type allows for it, cutting with cutting disk is the best and only option.



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
04-30-2011, 10:59 PM #2

Cutting springs can only be done effectively on certain spring types/shapes. For instance a w123 spring can be done effectively because of the shape of the lower spring perch.

Heating springs are an 'old school' method of lowering. You would torch the bottom coils until the desired height is attained. But with a modern car, the problem you run into is the spring rates will change with heating and you cannot be consistent with all the springs. So spring rates will be be random, and the ride will end up uneven and "floaty".

The other issue is the spring would be weakened. So the possibility for the coil to crack apart is great.

If the spring type allows for it, cutting with cutting disk is the best and only option.



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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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dieselboy
Rotatin 5500 times a minute

680
05-01-2011, 02:15 AM #3
Heating springs is a no no. It makes the spring steel not so springy. It will break alot eaiser and will fail eventually.
This post was last modified: 05-01-2011, 02:16 AM by dieselboy.

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dieselboy
05-01-2011, 02:15 AM #3

Heating springs is a no no. It makes the spring steel not so springy. It will break alot eaiser and will fail eventually.


-Jesse

80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon

10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
05-02-2011, 12:22 AM #4
+1

Cut only!


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Captain America
05-02-2011, 12:22 AM #4

+1

Cut only!



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

300D50
Graphite Moderator, ala RBMK

775
05-02-2011, 08:49 AM #5
After seeing an Infinity in the yard that had a mild side impact and shattered a good stock spring on the other side, I'd say "stay the hell away with a torch".

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300D50
05-02-2011, 08:49 AM #5

After seeing an Infinity in the yard that had a mild side impact and shattered a good stock spring on the other side, I'd say "stay the hell away with a torch".


1990 Power Ram 50 V6 SOHC 24V 6g72

I can be wrong, don't take everything I say as verbatim, please fact-check first.
My posts are my personal opinions and thoughts, unless otherwise noted.

okto
Naturally-aspirated

14
05-06-2011, 05:38 PM #6
Learn about annealing and hardening to see why heat-modifying springs is the worst idea. Unless you want to use your springs to make a knife. Tongue

1995 E300D 248,000mi and counting!
okto
05-06-2011, 05:38 PM #6

Learn about annealing and hardening to see why heat-modifying springs is the worst idea. Unless you want to use your springs to make a knife. Tongue


1995 E300D 248,000mi and counting!

 
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