617 Turbo selection?
617 Turbo selection?
05-15-2011, 08:19 PM
#1
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Im looking for better response in my 300D, but also want to keep drive pressure safe. I dont know enough about electronics or vacuum to do a variable geometry turbo.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-16-2011, 08:15 PM
#3
(05-16-2011, 04:00 PM)winmutt Have you done the needful maintenance? The cars are pretty enjoyable when they are properly tuned with stock parts.
I havent got around to it yet, but a checklist would be wonderful
I enjoy it thoroughly stock, but i would just like a little more power
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(05-16-2011, 04:00 PM)winmutt Have you done the needful maintenance? The cars are pretty enjoyable when they are properly tuned with stock parts.
I havent got around to it yet, but a checklist would be wonderful
I enjoy it thoroughly stock, but i would just like a little more power
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-16-2011, 11:54 PM
#4
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-16-2011, 11:54 PM #4It makes a big difference when the ALDA is removed... only takes about five minutes to do if your retarded haha
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-17-2011, 08:00 AM
#5
(05-16-2011, 11:54 PM)Captain America It makes a big difference when the ALDA is removed... only takes about five minutes to do if your retarded haha
I must be super retarded. It took me forever to remove mine. I had to make my own wrench and then get out a 3 ft pipe to loosen it. That bugger was intent on holding me back
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
(05-16-2011, 11:54 PM)Captain America It makes a big difference when the ALDA is removed... only takes about five minutes to do if your retarded haha
I must be super retarded. It took me forever to remove mine. I had to make my own wrench and then get out a 3 ft pipe to loosen it. That bugger was intent on holding me back
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
05-17-2011, 05:19 PM
#6
(05-16-2011, 11:54 PM)Captain America It makes a big difference when the ALDA is removed... only takes about five minutes to do if your retarded haha
I have a MW pump off of a non turbo 617.....
Or would it just be easier to remove it off the original pump?
Im new to the benz diesels, except the V8 in our claas chopper, but being a mercedes motor, we never have to work on the big V8
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(05-16-2011, 11:54 PM)Captain America It makes a big difference when the ALDA is removed... only takes about five minutes to do if your retarded haha
I have a MW pump off of a non turbo 617.....
Or would it just be easier to remove it off the original pump?
Im new to the benz diesels, except the V8 in our claas chopper, but being a mercedes motor, we never have to work on the big V8
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-17-2011, 05:46 PM
#7
![[Image: 327591d1283010274-87-300sdl-0-60-51-seco...da-004.jpg]](http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/327591d1283010274-87-300sdl-0-60-51-seconds-alda-004.jpg)
here is the alda alone
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Mine I had to turn 1 1/4 in open end wrench into like a 1 7/8 or some huge size
then stuck a piece of steel (allen wrench) into the hole where the boost line screws in
then used the 3ft pipe to get it out.
I bet there is an easier way and other pumps/aldas may not be so stubborn
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
here is one a pump with it removed
here is the alda alone
Mine I had to turn 1 1/4 in open end wrench into like a 1 7/8 or some huge size
then stuck a piece of steel (allen wrench) into the hole where the boost line screws in
then used the 3ft pipe to get it out.
I bet there is an easier way and other pumps/aldas may not be so stubborn
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
05-18-2011, 02:32 AM
#9
(05-17-2011, 05:46 PM)larsalan here is one a pump with it removed
here is the alda alone
Mine I had to turn 1 1/4 in open end wrench into like a 1 7/8 or some huge size
then stuck a piece of steel (allen wrench) into the hole where the boost line screws in
then used the 3ft pipe to get it out.
I bet there is an easier way and other pumps/aldas may not be so stubborn
Yeah just remember that you have to turn the wrench clockwise to loosen it lol, while holding the ALDA from turning..
(05-15-2011, 08:19 PM)MFSuper90 Im looking for better response in my 300D, but also want to keep drive pressure safe. I dont know enough about electronics or vacuum to do a variable geometry turbo.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
(05-17-2011, 06:30 PM)4rnnr33 Im looking into this same thing right now. I cannot decide what trims to get or what kind of turbo to get or if i should just get mine rebuilt. Anyone know what the optimum turbo setup would be for a 617?
After the maintenance, the only real thing to do is install an EGT gauge and start turning up fuel... But when you turn the fuel up, you will need to turn the boost up... When you turn the boost up, you will need a larger turbo.... vicious cycle!
- More fuel
- More boost
- larger turbo
To figure out the turbo, you will need to decide on boost level and then you can size the proper compressor... The new thread by AAA has very good info on doing so and my first reply shows how the stock T3, 45 trim Garrett quickly becomes overworked and too small. I feel a good alternative without buying/modifying/ and fabing a bunch of stuff is to just have a shop install a larger compressor on the stock T3 Garrett. The only thing I dont know about yet is the drive pressure (EMP - Exhaust Manifold Pressure) vs. Boost. I will know shorty when I get my 300D back together...
Here is a link to the new Turbo info Page:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...tributions
And in post #6 I give the link for the Turbo Compressor calc...
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...2#pid28282
This post was last modified: 05-18-2011, 02:45 AM by Captain America.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-18-2011, 02:32 AM #9(05-17-2011, 05:46 PM)larsalan here is one a pump with it removed
here is the alda alone
Mine I had to turn 1 1/4 in open end wrench into like a 1 7/8 or some huge size
then stuck a piece of steel (allen wrench) into the hole where the boost line screws in
then used the 3ft pipe to get it out.
I bet there is an easier way and other pumps/aldas may not be so stubborn
Yeah just remember that you have to turn the wrench clockwise to loosen it lol, while holding the ALDA from turning..
(05-15-2011, 08:19 PM)MFSuper90 Im looking for better response in my 300D, but also want to keep drive pressure safe. I dont know enough about electronics or vacuum to do a variable geometry turbo.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
(05-17-2011, 06:30 PM)4rnnr33 Im looking into this same thing right now. I cannot decide what trims to get or what kind of turbo to get or if i should just get mine rebuilt. Anyone know what the optimum turbo setup would be for a 617?
After the maintenance, the only real thing to do is install an EGT gauge and start turning up fuel... But when you turn the fuel up, you will need to turn the boost up... When you turn the boost up, you will need a larger turbo.... vicious cycle!
- More fuel
- More boost
- larger turbo
To figure out the turbo, you will need to decide on boost level and then you can size the proper compressor... The new thread by AAA has very good info on doing so and my first reply shows how the stock T3, 45 trim Garrett quickly becomes overworked and too small. I feel a good alternative without buying/modifying/ and fabing a bunch of stuff is to just have a shop install a larger compressor on the stock T3 Garrett. The only thing I dont know about yet is the drive pressure (EMP - Exhaust Manifold Pressure) vs. Boost. I will know shorty when I get my 300D back together...
Here is a link to the new Turbo info Page:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...tributions
And in post #6 I give the link for the Turbo Compressor calc...
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...2#pid28282
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-18-2011, 06:15 AM
#10
(plus they have an external wastegate)
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Whats your ideas on putting a .50 trim T3 garrett or even the .55 T3 garrett on a 617?
(plus they have an external wastegate)
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-18-2011, 01:02 PM
#11
(05-17-2011, 06:30 PM)4rnnr33 Im looking into this same thing right now. I cannot decide what trims to get or what kind of turbo to get or if i should just get mine rebuilt. Anyone know what the optimum turbo setup would be for a 617?
After the maintenance, the only real thing to do is install an EGT gauge and start turning up fuel... But when you turn the fuel up, you will need to turn the boost up... When you turn the boost up, you will need a larger turbo.... vicious cycle!
- More fuel
- More boost
- larger turbo
To figure out the turbo, you will need to decide on boost level and then you can size the proper compressor... The new thread by AAA has very good info on doing so and my first reply shows how the stock T3, 45 trim Garrett quickly becomes overworked and too small. I feel a good alternative without buying/modifying/ and fabing a bunch of stuff is to just have a shop install a larger compressor on the stock T3 Garrett. The only thing I dont know about yet is the drive pressure (EMP - Exhaust Manifold Pressure) vs. Boost. I will know shorty when I get my 300D back together...
Here is a link to the new Turbo info Page:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...tributions
And in post #6 I give the link for the Turbo Compressor calc...
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...2#pid28282
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This post was last modified: 05-18-2011, 01:03 PM by 4rnnr33.
I actually just read your part in the thread and think I am going the same route you did. (60 trip comp wheel in the stock t3) I actually even plan on going through the same shop unless you have anything bad to say about them. Thanks for the help!
(05-17-2011, 06:30 PM)4rnnr33 Im looking into this same thing right now. I cannot decide what trims to get or what kind of turbo to get or if i should just get mine rebuilt. Anyone know what the optimum turbo setup would be for a 617?
After the maintenance, the only real thing to do is install an EGT gauge and start turning up fuel... But when you turn the fuel up, you will need to turn the boost up... When you turn the boost up, you will need a larger turbo.... vicious cycle!
- More fuel
- More boost
- larger turbo
To figure out the turbo, you will need to decide on boost level and then you can size the proper compressor... The new thread by AAA has very good info on doing so and my first reply shows how the stock T3, 45 trim Garrett quickly becomes overworked and too small. I feel a good alternative without buying/modifying/ and fabing a bunch of stuff is to just have a shop install a larger compressor on the stock T3 Garrett. The only thing I dont know about yet is the drive pressure (EMP - Exhaust Manifold Pressure) vs. Boost. I will know shorty when I get my 300D back together...
Here is a link to the new Turbo info Page:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...tributions
And in post #6 I give the link for the Turbo Compressor calc...
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...2#pid28282
[/quote]
05-18-2011, 04:46 PM
#12
(05-18-2011, 01:02 PM)4rnnr33 I actually just read your part in the thread and think I am going the same route you did. (60 trip comp wheel in the stock t3) I actually even plan on going through the same shop unless you have anything bad to say about them. Thanks for the help!
Sweet! No man, those guys are awesome. I would highly recommend them. James even knew I had a Garrett off a Mercedes before I told him haha. He definitely knows what he's doing over there.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-18-2011, 04:46 PM #12(05-18-2011, 01:02 PM)4rnnr33 I actually just read your part in the thread and think I am going the same route you did. (60 trip comp wheel in the stock t3) I actually even plan on going through the same shop unless you have anything bad to say about them. Thanks for the help!
Sweet! No man, those guys are awesome. I would highly recommend them. James even knew I had a Garrett off a Mercedes before I told him haha. He definitely knows what he's doing over there.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-18-2011, 05:06 PM
#13
(05-18-2011, 06:15 AM)MFSuper90 Whats your ideas on putting a .50 trim T3 garrett or even the .55 T3 garrett on a 617?I have done it with a .50 trim from an OM603. It will give more power at the top end. The losses on the bottom end are not very much.
(plus they have an external wastegate)
NOTE: it is not a direct drop in.
(05-18-2011, 06:15 AM)MFSuper90 Whats your ideas on putting a .50 trim T3 garrett or even the .55 T3 garrett on a 617?I have done it with a .50 trim from an OM603. It will give more power at the top end. The losses on the bottom end are not very much.
(plus they have an external wastegate)
NOTE: it is not a direct drop in.
05-19-2011, 06:12 AM
#14
NOTE: it is not a direct drop in.
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Thanks ConnClark, thats what i wanted to know
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
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NOTE: it is not a direct drop in.
[/quote]
Thanks ConnClark, thats what i wanted to know
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-19-2011, 10:10 AM
#15
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-19-2011, 10:10 AM #15Yeah the OM603 And OM617 T3's are not the same
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-19-2011, 12:36 PM
#16
1. Remove studs from the turbine inlet flange.
2. Drill out/enlarge stud holes to the appropriate size of of the studs on your OM617 exhaust manifold.
3. Reclock the center section.
4. Finesse your oil feed and oil return lines(slight angle difference).
5. Come up with a waste gate linkage after you reclock the compressor housing.
6. Either machine a new longer spacer that goes between the compressor out let and the intake manifold or craft some sort of extension. ( i used a plastic conduit size adapter to lengthen my spacer, not a great solution but it works okay)
7. Fight with the turbine out let and down tube a bit
This post was last modified: 05-19-2011, 12:39 PM by ConnClark.
The main things you need to do to get put an OM603 turbo on an OM617 are the following.
1. Remove studs from the turbine inlet flange.
2. Drill out/enlarge stud holes to the appropriate size of of the studs on your OM617 exhaust manifold.
3. Reclock the center section.
4. Finesse your oil feed and oil return lines(slight angle difference).
5. Come up with a waste gate linkage after you reclock the compressor housing.
6. Either machine a new longer spacer that goes between the compressor out let and the intake manifold or craft some sort of extension. ( i used a plastic conduit size adapter to lengthen my spacer, not a great solution but it works okay)
7. Fight with the turbine out let and down tube a bit
05-19-2011, 02:14 PM
#17
My alda is maxed out, I am gonna yank it off next time i get the chance
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Well, i adjusted the valves last night. What else is on the maintenance checklist??
My alda is maxed out, I am gonna yank it off next time i get the chance
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-19-2011, 04:06 PM
#18
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-19-2011, 04:06 PM #18Did you check cam timing while you had the valve cover off? I forgot to do that too last time I adjusted the valves too.
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-19-2011, 05:29 PM
#19
(05-19-2011, 04:06 PM)Captain America Did you check cam timing while you had the valve cover off? I forgot to do that too last time I adjusted the valves too.
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
Do you have any more info on timing adjustment?
(05-19-2011, 04:06 PM)Captain America Did you check cam timing while you had the valve cover off? I forgot to do that too last time I adjusted the valves too.
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
Do you have any more info on timing adjustment?
05-19-2011, 08:20 PM
#20
(05-19-2011, 04:06 PM)Captain America Did you check cam timing while you had the valve cover off? I forgot to do that too last time I adjusted the valves too.
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
No, i didnt
Do you have info on how to do this, specs, and so on?
thanks
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(05-19-2011, 04:06 PM)Captain America Did you check cam timing while you had the valve cover off? I forgot to do that too last time I adjusted the valves too.
Then I would Time the IP and advance it to about 26, depending on where the cam timing is at...
No, i didnt
Do you have info on how to do this, specs, and so on?
thanks
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-19-2011, 08:44 PM
#21
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/OM617TimingChainStretch
Rusted out beat down 300d turbo 82' -- RIP
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
Nice body, tons of ridiculous mechanical issues - 300d turbo 82' /motor 85'
05-20-2011, 03:06 AM
#23
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...p?t=178349
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-20-2011, 03:06 AM #23IP timing is cake! Easier than a valve adjustment!
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/show...p?t=178349
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-21-2011, 11:24 PM
#25
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-21-2011, 11:24 PM #25No problem buddy
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-26-2011, 09:38 AM
#27
I pulled the alda off, and in your picture, captain, their is no spring on the pin coming out of the top of the pump?
I tried taking the spring off, and it doesn't hardly run.
Am i missing something here?
Thanks,
Eric
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
So....
I pulled the alda off, and in your picture, captain, their is no spring on the pin coming out of the top of the pump?
I tried taking the spring off, and it doesn't hardly run.
Am i missing something here?
Thanks,
Eric
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-26-2011, 09:45 AM
#28
(05-15-2011, 08:19 PM)MFSuper90 Im looking for better response in my 300D, but also want to keep drive pressure safe. I dont know enough about electronics or vacuum to do a variable geometry turbo.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
Stock bolt on.... KKK K26, it will give you a better response then the Garrett counterpart.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
05-26-2011, 09:45 AM #28(05-15-2011, 08:19 PM)MFSuper90 Im looking for better response in my 300D, but also want to keep drive pressure safe. I dont know enough about electronics or vacuum to do a variable geometry turbo.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated
Stock bolt on.... KKK K26, it will give you a better response then the Garrett counterpart.
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
05-27-2011, 01:23 AM
#29
(05-26-2011, 09:38 AM)MFSuper90 So....
I pulled the alda off, and in your picture, captain, their is no spring on the pin coming out of the top of the pump?
I tried taking the spring off, and it doesn't hardly run.
Am i missing something here?
Thanks,
Eric
Actually that was larsalan's Pictures, but yes there should be a spring pulling the rod up.
Here is a pic of mine:
Careful putting the spring back on! I shot two of them into earths orbit!
Rod up = max fuel ... When I say max, I mean with the ALDA limiting it (no boost)
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-27-2011, 01:23 AM #29(05-26-2011, 09:38 AM)MFSuper90 So....
I pulled the alda off, and in your picture, captain, their is no spring on the pin coming out of the top of the pump?
I tried taking the spring off, and it doesn't hardly run.
Am i missing something here?
Thanks,
Eric
Actually that was larsalan's Pictures, but yes there should be a spring pulling the rod up.
Here is a pic of mine:
Careful putting the spring back on! I shot two of them into earths orbit!
Rod up = max fuel ... When I say max, I mean with the ALDA limiting it (no boost)
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-27-2011, 09:30 AM
#30
It didn't seem to make a very much difference compared to just having the ALDA maxed out.
Now i am just waiting for that new IP adjustment thread....
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
That makes more sense now
It didn't seem to make a very much difference compared to just having the ALDA maxed out.
Now i am just waiting for that new IP adjustment thread....
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
05-27-2011, 04:21 PM
#31
(05-27-2011, 09:30 AM)MFSuper90 That makes more sense now
It didn't seem to make a very much difference compared to just having the ALDA maxed out.
Now i am just waiting for that new IP adjustment thread....
Same here. I cant wait to see how it differs from FI's ...
I did notice a difference from ALDA maxed to No ALDA. No ALDA was far better!
But I think my pump is on the lean side anyway...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-27-2011, 04:21 PM #31(05-27-2011, 09:30 AM)MFSuper90 That makes more sense now
It didn't seem to make a very much difference compared to just having the ALDA maxed out.
Now i am just waiting for that new IP adjustment thread....
Same here. I cant wait to see how it differs from FI's ...
I did notice a difference from ALDA maxed to No ALDA. No ALDA was far better!
But I think my pump is on the lean side anyway...
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-31-2011, 04:40 PM
#32
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-31-2011, 04:40 PM #32Alright so who's Garrett did I see at Performance Techniques today?
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
06-01-2011, 12:44 AM
#34
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
06-01-2011, 12:44 AM #34Bomb.com!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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