Wheel spacers on a w123, for CLK wheels
Wheel spacers on a w123, for CLK wheels
05-09-2011, 07:12 PM
#1
The wheels look awesome but I'm puzzled how they are looking like they were made for the car, when they are 37 mm offset and GG only had to apply 5 mm.
I had already bought 19mm spacers, but had not installed the wheels yet. Now I am concerned I'll have tire contact.
So in summary can someone confirm for me on the 5mm figure, and also where can I find that narrow spacer? Everything I see is minimum 10 mm.
Thanks
Steve
This post was last modified: 05-09-2011, 07:18 PM by zacharias.
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Image(s)I noticed in a thread on lowering that GileadGarage has 16" clk 320 wheels and says he only used 5 mm spacers and was able to keep his stock bolts on his w123 300td.
The wheels look awesome but I'm puzzled how they are looking like they were made for the car, when they are 37 mm offset and GG only had to apply 5 mm.
I had already bought 19mm spacers, but had not installed the wheels yet. Now I am concerned I'll have tire contact.
So in summary can someone confirm for me on the 5mm figure, and also where can I find that narrow spacer? Everything I see is minimum 10 mm.
Thanks
Steve
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05-10-2011, 12:48 AM
#4
(05-09-2011, 11:10 PM)zacharias(05-09-2011, 09:21 PM)tantank79 I'm running these with no spacers on my 300TD.
With 205/60-16 or 55?
Same bolts as bundts?
I think if running no spacers you should use steel wheel lug bolts. I'm planning on 205 55 16 front and 215 50 16 rear.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
mike-81-240d
05-10-2011, 12:48 AM #4(05-09-2011, 11:10 PM)zacharias(05-09-2011, 09:21 PM)tantank79 I'm running these with no spacers on my 300TD.
With 205/60-16 or 55?
Same bolts as bundts?
I think if running no spacers you should use steel wheel lug bolts. I'm planning on 205 55 16 front and 215 50 16 rear.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
05-10-2011, 08:51 AM
#5
I was using 1/4 inch spacers on mine for both front and rear, just generic wheel spacers I attached to the back of the rim with some RTV. Super hack, but properly balanced it worked. Gave me about a 1/4 inch gap for the tie rod in the front
Those rims are especially nice as the stock lug works just fine even with a 10mm spacer. The OEM Bundt it thicker than the CLK rim at the mounting point, so you still have a decent amount of thread available when you switch em
Would definitely go with the hub-centric spacers though
This post was last modified: 05-10-2011, 01:43 PM by JB3.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
you should be able to run no spacers on the rear, but I couldn't in the front with those CLK rims. Tantank, how are you doing that, do you have any pics? Mine contacted the tie rod, maybe a different brand tie rod?
I was using 1/4 inch spacers on mine for both front and rear, just generic wheel spacers I attached to the back of the rim with some RTV. Super hack, but properly balanced it worked. Gave me about a 1/4 inch gap for the tie rod in the front
Those rims are especially nice as the stock lug works just fine even with a 10mm spacer. The OEM Bundt it thicker than the CLK rim at the mounting point, so you still have a decent amount of thread available when you switch em
Would definitely go with the hub-centric spacers though
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-10-2011, 12:23 PM
#6
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-10-2011, 12:23 PM #6The tie rod bracket on the back of the spindle is different between a 240d and 300d the 300's can fit wider wheels
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
05-10-2011, 08:11 PM
#7
(05-10-2011, 12:23 PM)willbhere4u The tie rod bracket on the back of the spindle is different between a 240d and 300d the 300's can fit wider wheels
Actually it must be a year or chassis number difference.
I test fit the CLK rims onto my 1985 300d this afternoon and no-go. Not only was the tie rod bracket rubbing, but the dust cap was just about poking out the wheel center, making a center cap impossible.
I have an '80 wagon, when I have a chance I'll try one on it just in case.
I also found that the 19 mm spacers that came with the wheels are too narrow at the hub to fit onto the w123. I was told they had come of a w107 and had been run on a w126 as well.
(05-10-2011, 12:23 PM)willbhere4u The tie rod bracket on the back of the spindle is different between a 240d and 300d the 300's can fit wider wheels
Actually it must be a year or chassis number difference.
I test fit the CLK rims onto my 1985 300d this afternoon and no-go. Not only was the tie rod bracket rubbing, but the dust cap was just about poking out the wheel center, making a center cap impossible.
I have an '80 wagon, when I have a chance I'll try one on it just in case.
I also found that the 19 mm spacers that came with the wheels are too narrow at the hub to fit onto the w123. I was told they had come of a w107 and had been run on a w126 as well.
05-10-2011, 10:07 PM
#8
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
I've run them with 205-55-16s all around and now with 225-60-16s in the rear only. I think tie rod brand may be a determining factor in whether they fit, since I tried them on a different w123 and they scraped the tie rod end. My current setup clears the tie rod end by about 1/16", but doesn't scrape under hard cornering. As noted by others, I can't run a front center cap.
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
05-11-2011, 10:58 AM
#9
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-11-2011, 10:58 AM #9I just narrowed the the tie rods and put spacers behind the brackets and used longer bolts
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
05-21-2011, 09:35 PM
#10
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This post was last modified: 05-21-2011, 09:37 PM by MTUPower.
2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
You can put a washer behind this bolt and push the tie rod out nearly 3/32nds so that it will clear et 37 rims easily. Just be sure to get a front end alignment after doing this. You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs. ................................... [img][/img]
2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
05-23-2011, 08:15 AM
#11
(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-26-2011, 07:18 PM
#13
(05-23-2011, 08:15 AM)dropnoskyI'll pull some outm later but steelie lugs and bundt lugs have a different seat, and they are different lengths. One has a ball seat which curves, adn the other a cone seat which is straight. You need the proper seat and the proper length for each rim. I do not have a set of the fugly "super light" CLK rims- just the next years set and a set of staggered SLK rims.(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
(05-23-2011, 08:15 AM)dropnoskyI'll pull some outm later but steelie lugs and bundt lugs have a different seat, and they are different lengths. One has a ball seat which curves, adn the other a cone seat which is straight. You need the proper seat and the proper length for each rim. I do not have a set of the fugly "super light" CLK rims- just the next years set and a set of staggered SLK rims.(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
2005 CDI heavily modified 1984 300TD - Myna pump/TMIC/enlarged PC's/HX30Super/W126 II front brakes/Vogtland springs/EGT +Boost gauges/H4 Hella's
05-26-2011, 11:03 PM
#14
(05-26-2011, 07:18 PM)MTUPowerI think We're all thinking of the older "super sexy" lightwieght clk's, not the newer ones. I test fitted newer ones once, and fucked up a set of my lug bolts, def the wrong seat type.(05-23-2011, 08:15 AM)dropnoskyI'll pull some outm later but steelie lugs and bundt lugs have a different seat, and they are different lengths. One has a ball seat which curves, adn the other a cone seat which is straight. You need the proper seat and the proper length for each rim. I do not have a set of the fugly "super light" CLK rims- just the next years set and a set of staggered SLK rims.(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
mike-81-240d
05-26-2011, 11:03 PM #14(05-26-2011, 07:18 PM)MTUPowerI think We're all thinking of the older "super sexy" lightwieght clk's, not the newer ones. I test fitted newer ones once, and fucked up a set of my lug bolts, def the wrong seat type.(05-23-2011, 08:15 AM)dropnoskyI'll pull some outm later but steelie lugs and bundt lugs have a different seat, and they are different lengths. One has a ball seat which curves, adn the other a cone seat which is straight. You need the proper seat and the proper length for each rim. I do not have a set of the fugly "super light" CLK rims- just the next years set and a set of staggered SLK rims.(05-21-2011, 09:35 PM)MTUPower You should not use the bundt lugs, but the lugs intended for the rim. Lugs ARE NOT just lugs.
What do they look like? How different are they? I would like to get my hands on some rim specific lugs
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
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