Group buy: 8mm MW elements, optional pump rebuild (test elements now being ordered)
Group buy: 8mm MW elements, optional pump rebuild (test elements now being ordered)
Now that DeliveryValve has found a pump shop that will work with us for a reasonable price, It's time to get this group buy started.
Price looks to be $12 per element, or $60 for a set of 5. It is advised to get an extra in case of any defects.
We have yet to see who will coordinate the fund collection and actual purchase, but will let you know ASAP when we know.
If you can commit to buying a set, then please post back with the number of elements you will buy.
Please also indicate if you would like to take advantage of the group pump rebuild+element install that DV is working on. If we have enough people, it will be ~ $500 for the rebuild+install, which is a deal of the century.
EDIT:
All posts not involving people buying the elements will be removed/deleted.
These are non-german made, might cause problems, we know that.
The seller is not a spammer, he was contacted by our admin via email and invited.
Watch this post and the one below for more information.
Let me add the part number we are ordering is
1 418 415 058
Originally used on Bosch MW pump PES6MW80/320RS1104-1
I am down for 6 units.
EDIT: Some folks have been inquiring where they can potentially get their pumps rebuilt with new elements.........
Nobody that I know has done a Bosch MW Injection Pump 8mm Element install before. If the 8mm checks out that it can be installed, I found Diesel Power Systems (DPS) in Bakersfield, CA is willing to install and calibrate the MW Chinese 8mm elements for $400-$500 provided we do a group purchase of the service.
This price will include disassembly and cleaning of the Bosch MW Injection Pump, new gaskets, installation of 8mm Chinese elements and calibration. There is addition cost if some hard parts (i.e. bearings, etc) are worn and need replacement. We will need to send DPS a MW Pump and the 8mm Chinese elements around the same time to be determined later so we can get this price.
There is no warranty for the IP if Chinese or non-Genuine Bosch elements are install for the pump. The pump will be balanced, calibrated, and set up so the end user will only need to set the timing and make low idle adjustments.
This install price is the same if you want other sized elements or other brands i.e. Chinese or Bosch 10mm, tomnik’s 7mm Holly and etc.
DPS can offer their 1 year standard warranty by them providing genuine Bosch 8mm for $250-$300 per element. DPS will fix any problem with the pump, including parts or labor. The warranty does not cover any IP removal or installation costs, or freight expenses.
Kris Wolfenstein
General Manager
Diesel Power Systems-Becs/Pacific Ltd
600 Enterprise Way
Bakersfield, Ca 93307
661-397-9400
More information found in the 8mm elements thread.
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Update: We are rolling the dice and making a 12 unit sample purchase of 8mm MW elements part number 1 418 415 058 through RaderAuto.
Dieselkraut and 300D50 are taking the first set. I will work with Kris at DPS to do a test fitting of the 8mm element on Dieselkraut's IP.
Shipping for the 12 units is $52. If you committed fellas or anybody on the board want to make a donation towards shipping to lower the monetary risk that these guys are setting forth, it would be greatly appreciated.
PM me if you want to donate.
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I am down for 6 as well.
That puts us over the minimum order quantity.
(04-02-2011, 01:29 PM)stan(04-02-2011, 11:09 AM)ForcedInduction I would never put Chinese-spammer garbage on my engine.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!
(04-02-2011, 01:29 PM)stan(04-02-2011, 11:09 AM)ForcedInduction I would never put Chinese-spammer garbage on my engine.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!
Believe me, I'm sending good vibes. If this all works out, I'm putting a 617 in my F250 with a service bed. It would open options for full sized truck swaps.
Ed
6 Please
I'm in for 6 too. Has anyone gotten a sample to see quality?
Down for 6.
Ok im down for the elements and the pump work. I have the cash for both right now so ill talk with richard and see if he is cool with me sending him my pump and cash and seeing how things go.
Update: We are rolling the dice and making a 12 unit sample purchase of 8mm MW elements part number 1 418 415 058 through RaderAuto.
Dieselkraut and 300D50 are taking the first set. I will work with Kris at DPS to do a test fitting of the 8mm element on Dieselkraut's IP.
Shipping for the 12 units is $52. If you committed fellas or anybody on the board want to make a donation towards shipping to lower the monetary risk that these guys are setting forth, it would be greatly appreciated.
PM me if you want to donate.
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Thank you Stan for your donation!
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I'll toss in $10, but it'll have to wait until I can deposit some cash in my account. The closest branch of my bank is 40 miles from here.
Thank you civicious for your very generous donation!
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Just put cash in the bank. Where should I paypal?
Thank you 300SD81 for your donation!
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Yes, I have.
Right now we only have an order for 16 as a QC check, waiting for them to come in.
Hopefully they're good quality, at the least it'll be fun to play with them.
(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
(04-20-2011, 01:08 PM)Dieselkraut(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
what video? link anyone? i tried this forum and google and got nothing.
(04-20-2011, 01:08 PM)Dieselkraut(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
what video? link anyone? i tried this forum and google and got nothing.
(04-20-2011, 01:17 PM)winmutt(04-20-2011, 01:08 PM)Dieselkraut(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
what video? link anyone? i tried this forum and google and got nothing.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...e-filmclip
Personally I am all hot ant bothered about the VE pump...
(04-20-2011, 01:17 PM)winmutt(04-20-2011, 01:08 PM)Dieselkraut(04-19-2011, 09:40 AM)winmutt Have you guys seen diesel mekkens video regarding the chinese elements?
what video? link anyone? i tried this forum and google and got nothing.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thre...e-filmclip
Personally I am all hot ant bothered about the VE pump...
(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
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(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
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(04-21-2011, 12:59 PM)winmutt(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
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Honestly you might be better off waiting till June, I have a feeling that these websites are all retailers for the actual manufacturers and that one manufacturer is actually doing the work. It might be a good idea to put some feelers out with other companies and see if they report the same thing RE June.
(04-21-2011, 12:59 PM)winmutt(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
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Honestly you might be better off waiting till June, I have a feeling that these websites are all retailers for the actual manufacturers and that one manufacturer is actually doing the work. It might be a good idea to put some feelers out with other companies and see if they report the same thing RE June.
(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
.
(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve(04-20-2011, 04:13 AM)stan ETA on the elements? and will the pumps be off to the shop soon after the elements are stateside?
Just to give you all an update.
Richard @ raderauto informed me they can not fulfill the sample order. MW element production is now in June.
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
.
(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve ....
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
(04-21-2011, 12:26 PM)DeliveryValve ....
He has offered to return the money via PayPal after I sent $190 plus $14 transaction fee via Western Union.
I am currently waiting to get a refund. After I get the refund, we will look at other company options.
Update 5/4.
I've been trying to get a response from Chinahanji. After they gave me a price with no shipping quote, I never heard from them again. Even after several e-mails in the past serveral weeks. I was hoping to get a response because they said they take PayPal.
Last night I contacted diesel-parts-store.com and they claim to have the elements in stock for $11.5. They will send over an invoice for 12 units hopefully by tonight. They only take Wester Union and Moneygram like RaderAuto.
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5/10 update, diesel-parts-store.com flaked and has not gotten me an invoice. Chinahanji, the guy I was dealing with apparently left the company and after weeks I get this e-mail stating so and they don't have it in stock but can make a production run if 500 units are purchased.
I found another place Hongkong Xinyun Diesel Parts Plant (AKA Swenden worlddieselparts power Co., Ltd.) from trading site www.alibaba.com. They claim they have them in stock but the picture they sent me has a flange that looks too thick.
I think the pump will have to be re-studded to make it work. They are asking for $12.50 a unit. I will ask if they could get the flange thiner.
The flange thickness for the stock Mercedes is 5mm.
On another note regarding actual pump rebuilding. STD members kmaser and SurfRodder are going to have tomnik's 6.5 Holly elements in an MW pump calibrated by Diesel Power Systems. I will be sending their pumps over once I get both of them in. Looking forward to seeing the results on their pumps!
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(05-10-2011, 02:34 PM)DeliveryValve I found another place Hongkong Xinyun Diesel Parts Plant (AKA Swenden worlddieselparts power Co., Ltd.) from trading site www.alibaba.com. They claim they have them in stock but the picture they sent me has a flange that looks too thick.
(05-10-2011, 02:34 PM)DeliveryValve I found another place Hongkong Xinyun Diesel Parts Plant (AKA Swenden worlddieselparts power Co., Ltd.) from trading site www.alibaba.com. They claim they have them in stock but the picture they sent me has a flange that looks too thick.
I have Lisa's email address at chinahenji and she is pretty good at getting back to me. I have been waiting for 5 months for the 10mm elements to come off back order! I didnt know there were 8mm ones available or i would have asked about those! 10mm elements seem a bit excessive anyway. I just emailed her about the 8mm elements and delivery valves so maybe ill get somewhere.
UPDATE: 2011/6/13. This has been a disappointing process to say with these different companies. I am glad your in communication with Lisa at Chinahanji. Their former employee Vincent left me hanging. Then I get an e-mail from another who said they were going to check back for me. Never heard from the person.
I got antsy and after several back and forth e-mails with Huangshi Industrial, I rolled the dice on a set of 6 at $17 plus shipping and western union fees ($169.00) couple of weeks ago. A little more expensive then I anticipated, but I just want them here so I order them.
I have not heard of whether they shipped the product out yet. So I am keeping my fingers crossed. As soon as they arrive, dieselkraut will be sending me his pump and I'll have them installed. Until then, we are in a holding pattern.
On another note, kmaser and SurfRodder's pumps are Diesel Power Systems- Becs Pacific Ltd. They are having tomnik's 6.5 mm Holly elements installed. Kris at Becs Pacific opted to send SurfRodder's pump to their Fresno shop to have the elements installed there. The technician up there is also into Mercedes and has done performance testing on them. He will take the lead installing and testing out the Hollys up there and the data will be used as a tool for tuning other pumps in the future.
We'll let you all know how that turns out.
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What size elements did you order and what was the part number? I would be very interested in ordering these as well if you could provide me with the contact info.
Have you heard from kraut recently? I lost contact with him via pm.
i just recieved an email from lisa and they are out of the 8mm elements as well and have no prodution orders pending so back to square one again. On another note, i am confused as to what part numbers will work because they list an mw thick and mw thin element. Anyone know if both will work or any other info? what about contact info for alternative vendors?
(06-14-2011, 11:40 AM)wlockerb What size elements did you order and what was the part number? I would be very interested in ordering these as well if you could provide me with the contact info.
(06-14-2011, 01:55 PM)mike-81-240d Have you heard from kraut recently? I lost contact with him via pm.
(06-14-2011, 11:40 AM)wlockerb What size elements did you order and what was the part number? I would be very interested in ordering these as well if you could provide me with the contact info.
(06-14-2011, 01:55 PM)mike-81-240d Have you heard from kraut recently? I lost contact with him via pm.
I emailed Huangshi Industrial and talked to stars diesel about the 1 418 415 058 elements and am awaiting a response. Hopefully this works out. Keep us up to date on your progress with them deliveryvalve!
I'm beginning to think nobody has the 8mm elements. The non-response from Huangshi Industrial is disconcerting. I'm hanging tight at this point.
I too contacted RaderAuto the other day. But I get no response also there. Maybe they thought we were in the same group.
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Hang on guys! I emailed a place called world diesel parts last night and got a response. Guess what...... They have them in stock! I am awaiting a price and i will keep you all posted. If it comes through i will give everyone the contact info and order info. Wish me luck!