0-60 confusion
0-60 confusion
i did clean out a plugged banjo intake fitting to the limiter valve.
limiter valve is clear and holds pressure
alda holds vacuum and pressure
alda was already adjusted 1/2 turn from full adjustment. so i turned set screw the 1/2 turn ccw
stock time 20-21 sec
times below reflect all mods added together and no power braking
ingen intake filter 19-20 sec
removed alda 22-23 sec noticeable power loss
plugged egr vac line 22-23 sec
put it all back to stock and changed secondary fuel filter for yucks
and did a 20 sec
these times are sort of accurate. im pulling out from a side street each time so maybe the car is slightly faster. also im looking at my gps driving and doing the stopwatch on my phone lol
1985 300D turbo 58K miles with no trans slippage
well i did my allotted reading on mild performance gains and nothing worked to increase my cars performance.
i did clean out a plugged banjo intake fitting to the limiter valve.
limiter valve is clear and holds pressure
alda holds vacuum and pressure
alda was already adjusted 1/2 turn from full adjustment. so i turned set screw the 1/2 turn ccw
stock time 20-21 sec
times below reflect all mods added together and no power braking
ingen intake filter 19-20 sec
removed alda 22-23 sec noticeable power loss
plugged egr vac line 22-23 sec
put it all back to stock and changed secondary fuel filter for yucks
and did a 20 sec
these times are sort of accurate. im pulling out from a side street each time so maybe the car is slightly faster. also im looking at my gps driving and doing the stopwatch on my phone lol
1985 300D turbo 58K miles with no trans slippage
Is this the California version with the trap oxidizer? If you have the trap ox don't expect any miracles, I had to ask my car politely to get to get going before I removed it.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 05:29 PM #2Alda removal should have helped, did you plug the line going to the manifold? Bypass the overboost protection on the firewall? Make sure the shaft under the alda has its spring?
Is this the California version with the trap oxidizer? If you have the trap ox don't expect any miracles, I had to ask my car politely to get to get going before I removed it.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
no it has to go to the trans shift controller, its blue if that helps
Bypass the overboost protection on the firewall?
yes and it was removed along with the alda
Make sure the shaft under the alda has its spring?
yes i pushed it down and it went back up easily
Is this the California version with the trap oxidizer?
no
also my car doesnt put out any smoke on full throttle
did you plug the line going to the manifold?
no it has to go to the trans shift controller, its blue if that helps
Bypass the overboost protection on the firewall?
yes and it was removed along with the alda
Make sure the shaft under the alda has its spring?
yes i pushed it down and it went back up easily
Is this the California version with the trap oxidizer?
no
also my car doesnt put out any smoke on full throttle
(06-27-2011, 05:37 PM)richclan did you plug the line going to the manifold?
no it has to go to the trans shift controller, its blue if that helps
Ah, I forgot about that one, I just ran the line directly from the manifold to the blue flying saucer.
You have a boost gauge? I guess it could be the pump, I just have a hard time believing it would be out of adjustment after only 58,000 miles. Maybe the timing is off
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 05:45 PM #4(06-27-2011, 05:37 PM)richclan did you plug the line going to the manifold?
no it has to go to the trans shift controller, its blue if that helps
Ah, I forgot about that one, I just ran the line directly from the manifold to the blue flying saucer.
You have a boost gauge? I guess it could be the pump, I just have a hard time believing it would be out of adjustment after only 58,000 miles. Maybe the timing is off
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 05:52 PM #6You want boost at 10-15 psi. Some people are boost nazis and freak out the minute they get over the stock 9 but to their limited credit anything over 15psi doesn't gain you anything with a stock pump.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 06:01 PM #8Yes you will need to be driving, revving in park won't be accurate. Tee into the alda line it works great. This is on regular diesel right? No veggie oil or anything like that?
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
Still check the boost though.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 06:14 PM #10Lol that changes everything. Not only will veg make it a dog, it could have killed the pump. I don't know how you filter and dewater or what system you have but, as someone else put it, its like taking water from a dirty pond and filtering it to drink, get it right and your good but get it wrong and your screwed. That being said I in no way meant to be condescending about the way you do it, I have a pretty neutral stance on veg oil - its not something I would do to my own car but I have been involved in the process with others and I've seen when/how/why it can go wrong.
Still check the boost though.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-27-2011, 06:45 PM #12Maybe try cetane additive to make up for the veg. At this point I don't know what else it would be. Good luck
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
got the boost up to 10-11 psi the test gauge was maxed at
10 psi so i rigged a tire gauge which reads 0-60 psi and it too read 10-11 psi
just to make sure the alda wasnt leakin i bypassed it. reading didnt change
i adjusted the wastegate turned it in 4 turns 1/2 turn at a time i didnt want to go any farther in just in case.
got the boost up to 10-11 psi the test gauge was maxed at
10 psi so i rigged a tire gauge which reads 0-60 psi and it too read 10-11 psi
just to make sure the alda wasnt leakin i bypassed it. reading didnt change
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
06-28-2011, 01:36 AM #14Good thing forced induction isnt here!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Did it always had that time? I would check on linkage adjustment, make sure there is no slop and the hitting stop on full acceleration. Also lubing the linkage joints help.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
06-28-2011, 05:52 PM #16Wow. 58K miles on the clock and running veggie. Yikes!
Did it always had that time? I would check on linkage adjustment, make sure there is no slop and the hitting stop on full acceleration. Also lubing the linkage joints help.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-28-2011, 06:43 PM #17any pics of what the linkage looks like when hitting the stop? i dont know where it should be.
cars? what cars? WHERE???
Ed
yankneck696
06-29-2011, 05:17 AM #18I would mist the engine with water to remoce buildup & coking in the combustion chamber. You might be getting blowby from stuck rings, too. Veggie has a tendency for coking, that's why a water injection system is suggested.
Ed
sounds like a good thing where would i spray the water, in the turbo?
fyi the egr wasnt that dirty nor was the intake as far as i could see in it.
i run a blend of veggie, 30% of my fuel is diesel. i think its the best of both worlds
Did it always had that time? I would check on linkage adjustment, make sure there is no slop and the hitting stop on full acceleration.
never worried/tested it till i started driving it on the highways. i wanted more entrance ramp speed.
i did adjust linkage but it wasnt off but maybe 1-2 /32's
i am going to disable the ARV valve also
mist the engine with water to remoce buildup & coking in the combustion chamber.
sounds like a good thing where would i spray the water, in the turbo?
fyi the egr wasnt that dirty nor was the intake as far as i could see in it.
i run a blend of veggie, 30% of my fuel is diesel. i think its the best of both worlds
Did it always had that time? I would check on linkage adjustment, make sure there is no slop and the hitting stop on full acceleration.
never worried/tested it till i started driving it on the highways. i wanted more entrance ramp speed.
i did adjust linkage but it wasnt off but maybe 1-2 /32's
i am going to disable the ARV valve also
(06-28-2011, 06:43 PM)randomdude any pics of what the linkage looks like when hitting the stop? i dont know where it should be.
See attachments for FSM accelerator linkage adjustment.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
06-29-2011, 08:27 AM #20(06-28-2011, 06:43 PM)randomdude any pics of what the linkage looks like when hitting the stop? i dont know where it should be.
See attachments for FSM accelerator linkage adjustment.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
06-29-2011, 04:07 PM #23Yankneck had a great point there with the water injection
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
and thanks a million DV
cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
06-29-2011, 06:50 PM #24^true true. would be especially good for a veg car.
and thanks a million DV
cars? what cars? WHERE???
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
If you are not getting black smoke your not getting enough fuel. Check the overflow valve spring? I've got a 11s 0-60 on b100. Need to do the pull in a straight line, sounds like your turning onto a street?
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
cars? what cars? WHERE???
randomdude
07-01-2011, 07:00 PM #26^where is that valve spring? and how do you check it? i NEVER get smoke (alda full out helped give a lil pep), and car's a bit dogy.
cars? what cars? WHERE???
(07-01-2011, 04:11 PM)winmutt If you are not getting black smoke your not getting enough fuel. Check the overflow valve spring? I've got a 11s 0-60 on b100. Need to do the pull in a straight line, sounds like your turning onto a street?
can you post a link on a diy overflow valve spring adjustment
i put a new air filter on and ran a can of diesel purge through it.
it feels much better on normal driving.
i am also going to do a valve adj. next week
(07-01-2011, 04:11 PM)winmutt If you are not getting black smoke your not getting enough fuel. Check the overflow valve spring? I've got a 11s 0-60 on b100. Need to do the pull in a straight line, sounds like your turning onto a street?
can you post a link on a diy overflow valve spring adjustment
i put a new air filter on and ran a can of diesel purge through it.
it feels much better on normal driving.
i am also going to do a valve adj. next week
(07-01-2011, 08:12 PM)richclan ..
can you post a link on a diy overflow valve spring adjustment
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I think he meant they Bypass Valve on the IP.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...?pid=31323
Adjusting it should help with performance if the spring is flattened.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
07-02-2011, 02:22 AM #28(07-01-2011, 08:12 PM)richclan ..
can you post a link on a diy overflow valve spring adjustment
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I think he meant they Bypass Valve on the IP.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...?pid=31323
Adjusting it should help with performance if the spring is flattened.
.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
randomdude
07-02-2011, 08:04 PM #30ah thanks for the link, i will do that tomorrow!
cars? what cars? WHERE???
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
07-07-2011, 11:47 AM #33Winmutt has done mods to his pump - rack limiter removed, torque control, ect. Among other things, not a good comparison
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
(07-07-2011, 11:47 AM)led-panzer Winmutt has done mods to his pump - rack limiter removed, torque control, ect. Among other things, not a good comparison
i cant afford to do that im sure but i want to get back to at least stock. 14 sec is stock i think from what ive read.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
07-07-2011, 12:35 PM #35I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
lol what i meant was messing it up as in breaking it.
ill run it on straight diesel next run
i just noticed that the ip has been marked as if it was adjusted by the PO.
(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
lol what i meant was messing it up as in breaking it.
ill run it on straight diesel next run
i just noticed that the ip has been marked as if it was adjusted by the PO.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Certainly check IP timing and use diesel as a valid comparison. 18s is not completely out of bounds for biodiesel, you lose a considerable amount of bang for your buck on it.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
with just the u tube on it growls and i cant hear the spool up like before.
i now hear the solid lifters
like my solid lifter chev V-8.with air cleaner on its still noticeably louder and i dont feel any more power.
it also still has the hot idle shake
ill do a timed run to 60 later tonight.
im just wondering if this is the way 300d's are supposed to sound.
every valve was too tight. after getting them in spec i started it and it sounds totally different.
with just the u tube on it growls and i cant hear the spool up like before.
i now hear the solid lifters like my solid lifter chev V-8.
with air cleaner on its still noticeably louder and i dont feel any more power.
it also still has the hot idle shake
ill do a timed run to 60 later tonight.
im just wondering if this is the way 300d's are supposed to sound.
(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
They must have had other problems too then.
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
Ed
yankneck696
07-10-2011, 03:28 AM #40If you are to continue to use WVO, put a water injection system on the car. It will eventually net you better performance due to cleaninf the rings, injector tips & prechambers. You can also add some methanol ( or just use windshield washer fluid ) & gain a bit. It will also make the engine last longer due to less blowby & other things.
Ed
(07-09-2011, 10:24 PM)garage(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
They must have had other problems too then.
I'm not slamming wvo, but anyone who runs it straight will tell you the car is not as fast. Not because its "ruining your engine" but because it doesn't have as much energy as diesel.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
07-10-2011, 09:05 AM #41(07-09-2011, 10:24 PM)garage(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
They must have had other problems too then.
I'm not slamming wvo, but anyone who runs it straight will tell you the car is not as fast. Not because its "ruining your engine" but because it doesn't have as much energy as diesel.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
(07-10-2011, 03:28 AM)yankneck696 If you are to continue to use WVO, put a water injection system on the car. It will eventually net you better performance due to cleaninf the rings, injector tips & prechambers. You can also add some methanol ( or just use windshield washer fluid ) & gain a bit. It will also make the engine last longer due to less blowby & other things.
Ed
thats an interesting idea to clean out the engine. can you list any posts about it????
(07-10-2011, 03:28 AM)yankneck696 If you are to continue to use WVO, put a water injection system on the car. It will eventually net you better performance due to cleaninf the rings, injector tips & prechambers. You can also add some methanol ( or just use windshield washer fluid ) & gain a bit. It will also make the engine last longer due to less blowby & other things.
Ed
thats an interesting idea to clean out the engine. can you list any posts about it????
yankneck696
07-10-2011, 12:39 PM #43look up water meth injection. It gets activated by a Hobbs switch (at a certain PSI of boost) & should DEFINITELY have check valve/antisiphon valve to prevent leakage & hydrolocking the engine. Also, the pressure of the water pump needs to be enough to atomize the water into a fine mist. Best bet is to have a multiport system, due to the flow characteristics of the intake manifold. It was not designed to flow a liquid/air mixture.
(07-10-2011, 09:05 AM)led-panzer(07-09-2011, 10:24 PM)garage(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
They must have had other problems too then.
I'm not slamming wvo, but anyone who runs it straight will tell you the car is not as fast. Not because its "ruining your engine" but because it doesn't have as much energy as diesel.
Yes but in my personal opinion and experiance, it dosnt slow down the car by much..hardly noticeable.
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
(07-10-2011, 09:05 AM)led-panzer(07-09-2011, 10:24 PM)garage(07-07-2011, 12:35 PM)led-panzer I'm sure you could afford it, its free lol. I think the reason yours is slower is just from the vegetable oil, all the vehicles I have ridden in using veg were dogs.
They must have had other problems too then.
I'm not slamming wvo, but anyone who runs it straight will tell you the car is not as fast. Not because its "ruining your engine" but because it doesn't have as much energy as diesel.
Yes but in my personal opinion and experiance, it dosnt slow down the car by much..hardly noticeable.
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
Due to the excellent atomization, Babington burners will burn many heavy and waste oils such as:
diesel (~140,000 BTU/gallon)
biodiesel (~130,000 BTU/gallon)
kerosene (~140,000 BTU/gallon)
waste transmission / motor oil (~150,000 BTU/gallon)
waste vegetable oil (WVO) (~130,000 BTU/gallon)
from http://www.aipengineering.com/babington/...HOWTO.html
Not a definitive source, but I would gather that with the right injectors, heating, timing & other stuff, no water injection would be "nessecary". When many people do WVO, there are alot of things missed in the setup.
Ed
yankneck696
07-11-2011, 06:36 AM #45Fuels
Due to the excellent atomization, Babington burners will burn many heavy and waste oils such as:
diesel (~140,000 BTU/gallon)
biodiesel (~130,000 BTU/gallon)
kerosene (~140,000 BTU/gallon)
waste transmission / motor oil (~150,000 BTU/gallon)
waste vegetable oil (WVO) (~130,000 BTU/gallon)
from http://www.aipengineering.com/babington/...HOWTO.html
Not a definitive source, but I would gather that with the right injectors, heating, timing & other stuff, no water injection would be "nessecary". When many people do WVO, there are alot of things missed in the setup.
Ed
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
My car was a little slower on vegi but it didn't make a 8 sec 0-60 difference.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
07-11-2011, 11:30 AM #47You've been running it for 4 years like him then?
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
(07-11-2011, 11:30 AM)led-panzer You've been running it for 4 years like him then?
this car has always been this slow. it hasnt deteriorated over the 4 years. i rarely drive it.
my 240 has been the guinea pig for the wvo and i havent seen any performance difference/problems in fuels in that car
but now that the 240 is gone ill be driving the 300 more.
(07-11-2011, 11:30 AM)led-panzer You've been running it for 4 years like him then?
this car has always been this slow. it hasnt deteriorated over the 4 years. i rarely drive it.
my 240 has been the guinea pig for the wvo and i havent seen any performance difference/problems in fuels in that car
but now that the 240 is gone ill be driving the 300 more.
Ed
yankneck696
07-11-2011, 01:10 PM #49Could be timing chain stretch, diff gear ratio, timing, adjustments that were already made, tire height, brakes dragging, trans slippage... If it's always been slow & there are marks on the IP, you may need to adjust. Also check boost...
Ed
(07-11-2011, 01:10 PM)yankneck696 Could be timing chain stretch, diff gear ratio, timing, adjustments that were already made, tire height, brakes dragging, trans slippage... If it's always been slow & there are marks on the IP, you may need to adjust. Also check boost...
Ed
well now i know the boost is good LOL
(07-11-2011, 01:10 PM)yankneck696 Could be timing chain stretch, diff gear ratio, timing, adjustments that were already made, tire height, brakes dragging, trans slippage... If it's always been slow & there are marks on the IP, you may need to adjust. Also check boost...
Ed
well now i know the boost is good LOL
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