Adjustable spring seats (perches) vs Coilovers...
Adjustable spring seats (perches) vs Coilovers...
TBH, it's a bit of a pain to do, what with all the strengthening and fabrication required.
So I was think of cutting a couple of coils off of my lowering springs and fitting an adjustable spring seat, would this be a sensible alternative? Or, should I just say sod it, and get welding?
Would fitting coilovers be worth all the work, as far as improved handling is concerned?
Here's a few pictures to illustrate...
This is the type of adjustable spring seat I'm thinking making and fitting...
![[Image: 97b025e6.jpg]](http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/fha772/97b025e6.jpg)
![[Image: 348f4f6f.jpg]](http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/fha772/348f4f6f.jpg)
And this is how it looks under the back of an E36...
![[Image: 668de083.jpg]](http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/fha772/668de083.jpg)
What do you think?
Has anyone here used these on W123?
Cheers Frank.
![[Image: d7235ae7.jpg]](http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s21/fha772/d7235ae7.jpg)
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
I've been toying with the idea of fitting coilovers to Cunning Plan, after the £999.
TBH, it's a bit of a pain to do, what with all the strengthening and fabrication required.
So I was think of cutting a couple of coils off of my lowering springs and fitting an adjustable spring seat, would this be a sensible alternative? Or, should I just say sod it, and get welding?
Would fitting coilovers be worth all the work, as far as improved handling is concerned?
Here's a few pictures to illustrate...
This is the type of adjustable spring seat I'm thinking making and fitting...
And this is how it looks under the back of an E36...
What do you think?
Has anyone here used these on W123?
Cheers Frank.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
08-06-2011, 09:30 PM #2Thats really not a bad idea I think. I dont know what it would entail. But I think it would be awesome.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
I was thinking of making the threaded shaft about 5-6 inches long, with 1-1.5 inches extra on the top that tapers in, just to make sure the end of the threaded tube doesn't catch or bind on the spring.
(*take enough off of the spring so that it sits on the original spring seat, at about 1/4 inch of off the bump stop, to allow for maximum adjustablity)
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
My plan is quite simple really, I'm going to take 2-3 coils off of my lowering springs*, then make an adjustable spring seat that bolts in place of the original spring seat.
I was thinking of making the threaded shaft about 5-6 inches long, with 1-1.5 inches extra on the top that tapers in, just to make sure the end of the threaded tube doesn't catch or bind on the spring.
(*take enough off of the spring so that it sits on the original spring seat, at about 1/4 inch of off the bump stop, to allow for maximum adjustablity)
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
Im kinda new to these chassis but from what ive heard. they dont like going that low.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
08-07-2011, 05:34 AM #4Intresting. From the sound of it and picture you want to go really low.
Im kinda new to these chassis but from what ive heard. they dont like going that low.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
If I was using it on the road I wouldn't be going so low, I may even have some harder, custom springs made.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
TBH, this is going be purely for track use, and only do maybe 2-300 miles on the road each year.
If I was using it on the road I wouldn't be going so low, I may even have some harder, custom springs made.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
08-07-2011, 09:38 AM #6I track my cobalt and go to races alot and too low hurts more than it helps. Dont get me wrong I love low im deffinitly a fan of stance, but not really in a race application.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
Thanks for the advice, I was more thinking of cutting the springs so short, so that I would be able to have the full range of adjustment, more than getting it low. It's just nice to have the choice.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
I'm having trouble locating them. I've looked on coleman and google but no luck so far. Where did you find those steel ones in the first pic?
The thing is I need them for next month. I want to slam my car to go crash a vw fanboi meet with a few other guys and I want to be able to bring it back up to where I'm at now.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
I've been looking for a adjustable spring perch that will fit our cars 5" dia?
I'm having trouble locating them. I've looked on coleman and google but no luck so far. Where did you find those steel ones in the first pic?
The thing is I need them for next month. I want to slam my car to go crash a vw fanboi meet with a few other guys and I want to be able to bring it back up to where I'm at now.
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
Hi, I haven't found any, I'm planning to make some.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6743&start=105
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMf0sZubyfg&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPZy0pNgcZ0&feature=plcp
http://www.kaplhenke.com/index.php?optio...&Itemid=34
But there has to be a cheaper solution than 300$
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
I found these for the rear of a volvo that uses 5" springs
http://www.kaplhenke.com/index.php?optio...&Itemid=34
But there has to be a cheaper solution than 300$
-Jesse
80 300sd hy35, front mount intercooler, w115 intake, rack limiter removed, Alda removed, full load turned up, boost, ebp, trans, pyro, egr delete, 3.5" exhaust, e-fan, 16x8 rims with, 245/50 tires, lowered, bilstien 5100's, 12" front brakes, 2.65:1 diff.
97 f250 psd 4x4, crawler
70 f250 390
83 Volvo 242, lots of mods
66 Volvo amazon
10 mistsubishi fuso service truck.
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