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Metal Transmission Cooler Lines?

Metal Transmission Cooler Lines?

 
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Giffels
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08-28-2011, 08:48 PM #1
Crawled under my 1985 300d and noticed that one of the metal transmission cooler lines (passenger side) has a twist in it and I am afraid that it could possibly break so I want to replace it. I cannot seem to find the metal lines anywhere, az autohaus seems to have the front rubber piece of the hose (Link below)

https://www.autohausaz.com/search/produc...0Line/Hose

but they dont have the metal ones that I can see. Anyone have any idea where to get these metal lines?

thanks
Giffels
08-28-2011, 08:48 PM #1

Crawled under my 1985 300d and noticed that one of the metal transmission cooler lines (passenger side) has a twist in it and I am afraid that it could possibly break so I want to replace it. I cannot seem to find the metal lines anywhere, az autohaus seems to have the front rubber piece of the hose (Link below)

https://www.autohausaz.com/search/produc...0Line/Hose

but they dont have the metal ones that I can see. Anyone have any idea where to get these metal lines?

thanks

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,278
08-29-2011, 05:51 AM #2
It's either the dealer or junkyard. I have a 1985 300D and the one on the passanger side vibrated thru the metal clamp that holds it by the oil pan. The rubber part of the metal clamp was very easy to replace. Home Depot had almost identical hangers, just used the rubber part. I think the dealer will hit you up for about $197 a piece. You're right about leakage issues.

I have one if you're interesed. PM me. Thanks.

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Greazzer
08-29-2011, 05:51 AM #2

It's either the dealer or junkyard. I have a 1985 300D and the one on the passanger side vibrated thru the metal clamp that holds it by the oil pan. The rubber part of the metal clamp was very easy to replace. Home Depot had almost identical hangers, just used the rubber part. I think the dealer will hit you up for about $197 a piece. You're right about leakage issues.

I have one if you're interesed. PM me. Thanks.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

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Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

aaa
GT2256V

913
08-29-2011, 02:32 PM #3
Try checking with Rusty.
aaa
08-29-2011, 02:32 PM #3

Try checking with Rusty.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
08-30-2011, 08:11 AM #4
Honestly I would just go to any junkyard. Any 300d will probably have them if the engine/trans is still in it.

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
08-30-2011, 08:11 AM #4

Honestly I would just go to any junkyard. Any 300d will probably have them if the engine/trans is still in it.


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-31-2011, 07:52 AM #5
(08-29-2011, 02:32 PM)aaa Try checking with Rusty.

yeah, ive bought this exact same part from Rusty in the past.

check out buy mb parts .biz
also fastlane,

and also you can get the part from the classic center in CA, which will give you a discount if you have a MBCA membership. (why I have one)

honestly though, its not an especially high pressure line, many people have done "temporary" repairs that last forever by cutting the line and slipping tranny cooler hose or other decent quality hose over the end, then double and triple hose clamping with some nice higher pressre clamps.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-31-2011, 07:52 AM #5

(08-29-2011, 02:32 PM)aaa Try checking with Rusty.

yeah, ive bought this exact same part from Rusty in the past.

check out buy mb parts .biz
also fastlane,

and also you can get the part from the classic center in CA, which will give you a discount if you have a MBCA membership. (why I have one)

honestly though, its not an especially high pressure line, many people have done "temporary" repairs that last forever by cutting the line and slipping tranny cooler hose or other decent quality hose over the end, then double and triple hose clamping with some nice higher pressre clamps.


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,278
08-31-2011, 08:06 AM #6
Dropnosky,

Do you have a rough guess as to pressure / PSI. I want to have an independent trans cooler -- not in radiator. I want to move it to the front of the A/C condensor. Any ideas ?

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

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Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
08-31-2011, 08:06 AM #6

Dropnosky,

Do you have a rough guess as to pressure / PSI. I want to have an independent trans cooler -- not in radiator. I want to move it to the front of the A/C condensor. Any ideas ?


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

JB3
Superturbo

1,795
08-31-2011, 08:52 AM #7
(08-31-2011, 08:06 AM)Greazzer Dropnosky,

Do you have a rough guess as to pressure / PSI. I want to have an independent trans cooler -- not in radiator. I want to move it to the front of the A/C condensor. Any ideas ?

off the top of my head, im not sure except that its not especially high. I would not hesitate to add an extra cooler, or something external to replace the simple copper tube stock cooler.

I would be willing to bet the spec is in this thread/collection of threads somewhere-

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-c...722-a.html
This post was last modified: 08-31-2011, 08:54 AM by JB3.

1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

JB3
08-31-2011, 08:52 AM #7

(08-31-2011, 08:06 AM)Greazzer Dropnosky,

Do you have a rough guess as to pressure / PSI. I want to have an independent trans cooler -- not in radiator. I want to move it to the front of the A/C condensor. Any ideas ?

off the top of my head, im not sure except that its not especially high. I would not hesitate to add an extra cooler, or something external to replace the simple copper tube stock cooler.

I would be willing to bet the spec is in this thread/collection of threads somewhere-

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-c...722-a.html


1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van

Greazzer
Superturbo

1,278
08-31-2011, 12:07 PM #8
Do you think rubber hose and worm clamps would work on a temporary basis ? I am swapping radiator and I got a really nice trans cooler from a Hyundai. Has built in rubber mounts and it looks like its a stacked model vs. tube and fins. Its size is up there with the after market high end coolers. I just want to get some 100 psi hose with some clamps. Any guesses ?

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
08-31-2011, 12:07 PM #8

Do you think rubber hose and worm clamps would work on a temporary basis ? I am swapping radiator and I got a really nice trans cooler from a Hyundai. Has built in rubber mounts and it looks like its a stacked model vs. tube and fins. Its size is up there with the after market high end coolers. I just want to get some 100 psi hose with some clamps. Any guesses ?


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-01-2011, 12:49 AM #9
Fuel injection hose (available at any parts store) will work fine with standard worm clamps... Hell, even low pressure fuel line will work. They will last for as long as you need. If you can use barbed nipples your set, if not then just double hose clamp an you should be fine.


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-01-2011, 12:49 AM #9

Fuel injection hose (available at any parts store) will work fine with standard worm clamps... Hell, even low pressure fuel line will work. They will last for as long as you need. If you can use barbed nipples your set, if not then just double hose clamp an you should be fine.



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Hercules
GT2559V

219
09-01-2011, 01:22 AM #10
Cut out bad section of tube,flare both ends some,install hose and clamps, permanent fix. Do use the fuel inj. hose as suggested. Temporary fix I have seen, split rubber hose install over hole and clamp at hole area.
Hercules
09-01-2011, 01:22 AM #10

Cut out bad section of tube,flare both ends some,install hose and clamps, permanent fix. Do use the fuel inj. hose as suggested. Temporary fix I have seen, split rubber hose install over hole and clamp at hole area.

DeliveryValve
Superturbo

1,338
09-01-2011, 02:11 AM #11
I like using a small piece of fuel hose to use as bushings between the trans metal line and hanger clamp. The OE bushings are too thin and rot out easily which causes the hanger to rub a hole in the line.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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DeliveryValve
09-01-2011, 02:11 AM #11

I like using a small piece of fuel hose to use as bushings between the trans metal line and hanger clamp. The OE bushings are too thin and rot out easily which causes the hanger to rub a hole in the line.




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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!



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Greazzer
Superturbo

1,278
09-01-2011, 07:56 AM #12
Yup, that is what happened to mine, rubber rotted out and vibration caused a slight hole in the metal line. A real PITA getting the whole metal line out and replacing.

Thanks Captain, et al, for the info. I will grap some HPFL for the trans cooler relocation project. I will start a thread on the radiator project. Very happy with my new 22"x20"x3" all aluminum "Be-Cool" radiator at $190 plus S&H.

Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
Greazzer
09-01-2011, 07:56 AM #12

Yup, that is what happened to mine, rubber rotted out and vibration caused a slight hole in the metal line. A real PITA getting the whole metal line out and replacing.

Thanks Captain, et al, for the info. I will grap some HPFL for the trans cooler relocation project. I will start a thread on the radiator project. Very happy with my new 22"x20"x3" all aluminum "Be-Cool" radiator at $190 plus S&H.


Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020

visit:  www.dieselfuelinjector.guru

Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.

RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982.  Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-01-2011, 04:16 PM #13
(09-01-2011, 01:22 AM)Hercules Do use the fuel inj. hose as suggested.

Why? I have had Goodyear EFI rated hose as trans cooler lines for 5+ years with no issues...


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-01-2011, 04:16 PM #13

(09-01-2011, 01:22 AM)Hercules Do use the fuel inj. hose as suggested.

Why? I have had Goodyear EFI rated hose as trans cooler lines for 5+ years with no issues...



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Hercules
GT2559V

219
09-02-2011, 12:52 AM #14
I agreed with you,I thought?
Hercules
09-02-2011, 12:52 AM #14

I agreed with you,I thought?

Captain America
Boostin' & Roostin'

2,221
09-02-2011, 12:33 PM #15
OH! fuck me. read it as there was a "do not" Man thats bad Sad


1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Captain America
09-02-2011, 12:33 PM #15

OH! fuck me. read it as there was a "do not" Man thats bad Sad



1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag

AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....

Hercules
GT2559V

219
09-03-2011, 12:45 AM #16
WELL!! if you can make mistakes than so can I.lol.
Hercules
09-03-2011, 12:45 AM #16

WELL!! if you can make mistakes than so can I.lol.

 
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