Installing a turbo oil feed on a 617 n/a
Installing a turbo oil feed on a 617 n/a
09-07-2011, 05:33 PM
#1
The way ive done it so far is with a t-piece on the oil warning light switch on the back of the oil filter housing,
As in the this picture:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o05UL...CT1349.JPG
The problem I seem to be having with this is when the engine gets very hot the oil pressure drops so that at idle the oil light comes on, my thinking on this is because theres a t-piece on the pressure switch its reading low?
Any one any ideas?
617 n/a and 617a oil filter housing are different to allow for turbo feed, any one know what stt and the like done for a turbo oil supply?
non turbo
http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
turbo, part no 146 is for turbo oil supply
http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
THE DIGGER
09-07-2011, 05:33 PM #1As it says in the title whats the best way to supply oil the a turbo when fitting one to a 617 n/a?
The way ive done it so far is with a t-piece on the oil warning light switch on the back of the oil filter housing,
As in the this picture:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o05UL...CT1349.JPG
The problem I seem to be having with this is when the engine gets very hot the oil pressure drops so that at idle the oil light comes on, my thinking on this is because theres a t-piece on the pressure switch its reading low?
Any one any ideas?
617 n/a and 617a oil filter housing are different to allow for turbo feed, any one know what stt and the like done for a turbo oil supply?
non turbo
http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
turbo, part no 146 is for turbo oil supply
http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
09-07-2011, 05:50 PM
#3
(09-07-2011, 05:38 PM)aaa What vehicle is this?
G wagen
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vq3t9...CT1418.JPG
THE DIGGER
09-07-2011, 05:50 PM #3(09-07-2011, 05:38 PM)aaa What vehicle is this?
G wagen
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vq3t9...CT1418.JPG
09-08-2011, 09:07 AM
#5
bolt up a turbo one from a 300d turbo and it good to go at least that's what I did on my 240d turbo
I actually replace the whole oil filter housing before I realized the only difference was the rear plate on it
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-08-2011, 09:07 AM #5The rear plate on the oil filter housing unbolts
bolt up a turbo one from a 300d turbo and it good to go at least that's what I did on my 240d turbo
I actually replace the whole oil filter housing before I realized the only difference was the rear plate on it
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
09-08-2011, 11:27 AM
#6
(09-07-2011, 06:17 PM)aaa Would a restriction on the turbo line help? What pressure is that sensor set to go off at anyways, maybe you can change that out.
theres a 2mm one in the turbo line already.
I think its around 20psi, dont really want to put a lower one in case there ever is a low pressure problem.
Thanks for the sugestion though.
(09-08-2011, 09:07 AM)willbhere4u The rear plate on the oil filter housing unbolts
bolt up a turbo one from a 300d turbo and it good to go at least that's what I did on my 240d turbo
I actually replace the whole oil filter housing before I realized the only difference was the rear plate on it
Was this on a 617 engine?
from the epc the shape of the rear plate on the turbo oil filter housing is completly different, and the gasket is a different part no.
This post was last modified: 09-08-2011, 11:30 AM by THE DIGGER.
THE DIGGER
09-08-2011, 11:27 AM #6(09-07-2011, 06:17 PM)aaa Would a restriction on the turbo line help? What pressure is that sensor set to go off at anyways, maybe you can change that out.
theres a 2mm one in the turbo line already.
I think its around 20psi, dont really want to put a lower one in case there ever is a low pressure problem.
Thanks for the sugestion though.
(09-08-2011, 09:07 AM)willbhere4u The rear plate on the oil filter housing unbolts
bolt up a turbo one from a 300d turbo and it good to go at least that's what I did on my 240d turbo
I actually replace the whole oil filter housing before I realized the only difference was the rear plate on it
Was this on a 617 engine?
from the epc the shape of the rear plate on the turbo oil filter housing is completly different, and the gasket is a different part no.
09-08-2011, 03:49 PM
#7
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-08-2011, 03:49 PM #7That is a badass G wagon!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-08-2011, 05:12 PM
#8
(09-08-2011, 03:49 PM)Captain America That is a badass G wagon!
cheers ive got two.....this one has a 606 td and a 722.6 auto in it, im having issues with the auto box ecu at the moment, will be asking questions about it soon!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GHUFu...CT1117.JPG
This post was last modified: 09-08-2011, 05:18 PM by THE DIGGER.
THE DIGGER
09-08-2011, 05:12 PM #8(09-08-2011, 03:49 PM)Captain America That is a badass G wagon!
cheers ive got two.....this one has a 606 td and a 722.6 auto in it, im having issues with the auto box ecu at the moment, will be asking questions about it soon!
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GHUFu...CT1117.JPG
09-09-2011, 04:47 PM
#9
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-09-2011, 04:47 PM #9Do you have any videos!?! More pictures???
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-11-2011, 05:49 AM
#10
(09-09-2011, 04:47 PM)Captain America Do you have any videos!?! More pictures???
I dont any videos, there should be few floating around ill see if I can dig some up.
pics here: https://picasaweb.google.com/102431078619608601077
THE DIGGER
09-11-2011, 05:49 AM #10(09-09-2011, 04:47 PM)Captain America Do you have any videos!?! More pictures???
I dont any videos, there should be few floating around ill see if I can dig some up.
pics here: https://picasaweb.google.com/102431078619608601077
09-11-2011, 07:09 PM
#12
(09-11-2011, 06:49 AM)aaa So why not get a whole 300SD oil filter housing?
Also, if the pressure sensor's that sensitive I wouldn't be surprised if it set off on factory turbo 617, I'm sure I've seen less than 1.4 bar before.
If i could get a turbo oil filter housing I would but 617a's are thin on the ground in Europe, and non existence in Ireland.
Ran the engine up to temp again this weekend to iron out the bugs in my hydraulic winch set up, no oil light issues
Unplugged the fan and with the engine nearly in the red im still seeing around 1.4 bar oil pressure at idle and the oil light didnt come on this time....confused as I hadn't changed anything from last weekend.
THE DIGGER
09-11-2011, 07:09 PM #12(09-11-2011, 06:49 AM)aaa So why not get a whole 300SD oil filter housing?
Also, if the pressure sensor's that sensitive I wouldn't be surprised if it set off on factory turbo 617, I'm sure I've seen less than 1.4 bar before.
If i could get a turbo oil filter housing I would but 617a's are thin on the ground in Europe, and non existence in Ireland.
Ran the engine up to temp again this weekend to iron out the bugs in my hydraulic winch set up, no oil light issues
Unplugged the fan and with the engine nearly in the red im still seeing around 1.4 bar oil pressure at idle and the oil light didnt come on this time....confused as I hadn't changed anything from last weekend.
09-12-2011, 10:03 AM
#13
After doing the swap I realized that the oil filter housings where identical with the same part number and I could have just swapped the back plate and gasket.
check out my build it has some pics http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...240d+turbo
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-12-2011, 10:03 AM #13I swapped a the oil filter housing and backing plate off of a turbo 617 on to a non turbo 616
After doing the swap I realized that the oil filter housings where identical with the same part number and I could have just swapped the back plate and gasket.
check out my build it has some pics http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thre...240d+turbo
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
09-13-2011, 01:44 AM
#14
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
09-13-2011, 01:44 AM #14THE G WAGON IS SO SICK!!!!!!!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
09-14-2011, 12:01 PM
#15
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
09-15-2011, 05:43 PM
#16
(09-14-2011, 12:01 PM)winmutt The "NA" filter housing you show is the same as the turbo ones here. I will be happy to send you a turbo housing back part.
Your dead right winmutt, just after checking out willbhere4u's build and as pointed by him earlier they are the same, only on the ones you guys got in America though
THE DIGGER
09-15-2011, 05:43 PM #16(09-14-2011, 12:01 PM)winmutt The "NA" filter housing you show is the same as the turbo ones here. I will be happy to send you a turbo housing back part.
Your dead right winmutt, just after checking out willbhere4u's build and as pointed by him earlier they are the same, only on the ones you guys got in America though
09-24-2011, 03:41 PM
#18
Its no 95 here, http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
Or this is what it looks like: (pic stolen from willbhere4u's build thread
)THE DIGGER
09-24-2011, 03:41 PM #18Has anyone got a dead turbo engine lying around that they would sell the cover plate off the oil filter housing?
Its no 95 here, http://www.neoriginal.ru/cat/mb/part__2_...32_617_932
Or this is what it looks like: (pic stolen from willbhere4u's build thread)
09-25-2011, 02:41 PM
#20
(09-24-2011, 05:28 PM)aaa I assume you want a 300sd cover plate, not a 300d one.
I'm not entirely sure as euro ones are different.
but I do know I need one thats shown in the picture and epc.
What do these come on?
THE DIGGER
09-25-2011, 02:41 PM #20(09-24-2011, 05:28 PM)aaa I assume you want a 300sd cover plate, not a 300d one.
I'm not entirely sure as euro ones are different.
but I do know I need one thats shown in the picture and epc.
What do these come on?
09-26-2011, 12:19 PM
#22
(09-25-2011, 03:33 PM)aaa The 300SD one has a fitting for an electric oil pressure sensor, the 300D has a fitting for a oil line for the manual oil pressure gauge.
Thanks for that, are they both turbo? And if so do they both have the threaded hole for the banjo bolt to feed the turbo?
THE DIGGER
09-26-2011, 12:19 PM #22(09-25-2011, 03:33 PM)aaa The 300SD one has a fitting for an electric oil pressure sensor, the 300D has a fitting for a oil line for the manual oil pressure gauge.
Thanks for that, are they both turbo? And if so do they both have the threaded hole for the banjo bolt to feed the turbo?
09-26-2011, 05:38 PM
#24
(09-25-2011, 03:33 PM)aaa The 300SD one has a fitting for an electric oil pressure sensor, the 300D has a fitting for a oil line for the manual oil pressure gauge.
After doing a bit of research on the russian epc both 116 300sd and a 123 300d show the same cove plate part no 6171840308.
Only for a 300d theres no pressure switch listed but there is an oil line listed for it, going to the pressure gauge..... and vise versa for the 300sd.
THE DIGGER
09-26-2011, 05:38 PM #24(09-25-2011, 03:33 PM)aaa The 300SD one has a fitting for an electric oil pressure sensor, the 300D has a fitting for a oil line for the manual oil pressure gauge.
After doing a bit of research on the russian epc both 116 300sd and a 123 300d show the same cove plate part no 6171840308.
Only for a 300d theres no pressure switch listed but there is an oil line listed for it, going to the pressure gauge..... and vise versa for the 300sd.
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