Turbo upgrade help...
Turbo upgrade help...
05-19-2009, 03:43 PM
#1
In the following link, can anyone tell me what turbo will bolt on with out fabrication or modification... I got another question, Is it worth buying a T3 V-band will they fit (flange wise) will it improve in spooling or will it be the same as stock...
1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)
1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/cha...Z1QQ_fromZ
In the following link, can anyone tell me what turbo will bolt on with out fabrication or modification... I got another question, Is it worth buying a T3 V-band will they fit (flange wise) will it improve in spooling or will it be the same as stock...
1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)
1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)
05-19-2009, 03:55 PM
#2
ForcedInduction
05-19-2009, 03:55 PM
#2
Avoid that seller. He only has scrap turbos and hes been keyword spamming eBay with false descriptions trying to lure people in.
05-19-2009, 03:59 PM
#3
Secondaries
05-19-2009, 03:59 PM #3There are also a million different T3's under the sun. You should do some research into what you're really interested in, then find a bunch of compressor maps and start plotting. V-band won't do anything for performance by itself, it's just a flange that allows attaching the piping in a more convenient way.
05-19-2009, 04:11 PM
#4
Here's a turbo that i might consider, (T3/T4 V-Band Hybrid Turbo/Turbocharger 8psi internal WG) copy and paste on Ebay (i having issues with copy and pasting address)
About the oil feeding, From the looks of it, it seem that if i install the turbo the oil feed holes will be horizontal, will this be a problem
This post was last modified: 05-19-2009, 04:20 PM by Actros617.
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Image(s)1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)
1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)
Thx for the head's up Forced
Here's a turbo that i might consider, (T3/T4 V-Band Hybrid Turbo/Turbocharger 8psi internal WG) copy and paste on Ebay (i having issues with copy and pasting address)
About the oil feeding, From the looks of it, it seem that if i install the turbo the oil feed holes will be horizontal, will this be a problem
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Image(s)1984 300SD 4 Dr Diesel Sports Car (ARGUS) (Mine)
1987 300SDL Cruiser STOCK (My fathers)
05-19-2009, 11:09 PM
#5
(05-19-2009, 04:11 PM)Actros617 Thx for the head's up Forced
Here's a turbo that i might consider, (T3/T4 V-Band Hybrid Turbo/Turbocharger 8psi internal WG) copy and paste on Ebay (i having issues with copy and pasting address)
About the oil feeding, From the looks of it, it seem that if i install the turbo the oil feed holes will be horizontal, will this be a problem
8 psi? That turbo is for a gas engine. Look into an HX25 or HX30. You'll need at least 14psi. The stock turbo will put 14 down pretty easy.
Lincolnlock
05-19-2009, 11:09 PM #5(05-19-2009, 04:11 PM)Actros617 Thx for the head's up Forced
Here's a turbo that i might consider, (T3/T4 V-Band Hybrid Turbo/Turbocharger 8psi internal WG) copy and paste on Ebay (i having issues with copy and pasting address)
About the oil feeding, From the looks of it, it seem that if i install the turbo the oil feed holes will be horizontal, will this be a problem
8 psi? That turbo is for a gas engine. Look into an HX25 or HX30. You'll need at least 14psi. The stock turbo will put 14 down pretty easy.
05-20-2009, 10:30 AM
#7
(05-20-2009, 08:37 AM)Actros617 So what turbo do you guys recommend?
I'm presently running an HX-30 at 15psi with no intercooler, rack limiter removed in the IP, Torque Control tweaked, and I rarely see anything over 900°F (hot day, long hill, highway speeds) in the EGTs department. This indicates to me that the turbo is quite efficient at low levels of boost (it's rated for ~27psi). I am by no means maxing out the capabilities of this turbo at the present level of "tune". According to the literature it should be capable of supplying about 250-300hp worth of air, and I doubt my engine is making much more than 150hp, if that.
There is a small amount of fabrication that needs to be done, however, because one has to put a 3/8" spacer between the turbo flange and the exhaust manifold flange. Also, the manifold will need to have a nipple welded on, and a tube communicating air from the turbocharger to the intake manifold will have to be arranged. I think there are forum members here who will do the welding for a fee. The spacer can be made with a drill press, a hack saw, and a round file (that's how I did mine), but if you know someone with a Bridgeport, milling one out would be the quickest way. You also have to remove the studs from the exhaust manifold (carefully, with a lot of penetrating oil), and install longer ones (avail. from Autozone), that will reach through the spacer, through the turbo flange, and to the nut.
EDIT: Hooking up the stock exhaust to the HX-30 was no biggie for me, and it will be obvious how its done upon closer inspection, but a custom 3" exhaust would be the ideal thing to do.
Like was said before, you should really start running numbers (google "not2fast turbo calculator") to get a more narrowly-defined picture of what you want from your engine.
This post was last modified: 05-20-2009, 10:33 AM by GREASY_BEAST.
GREASY_BEAST
05-20-2009, 10:30 AM #7(05-20-2009, 08:37 AM)Actros617 So what turbo do you guys recommend?
I'm presently running an HX-30 at 15psi with no intercooler, rack limiter removed in the IP, Torque Control tweaked, and I rarely see anything over 900°F (hot day, long hill, highway speeds) in the EGTs department. This indicates to me that the turbo is quite efficient at low levels of boost (it's rated for ~27psi). I am by no means maxing out the capabilities of this turbo at the present level of "tune". According to the literature it should be capable of supplying about 250-300hp worth of air, and I doubt my engine is making much more than 150hp, if that.
There is a small amount of fabrication that needs to be done, however, because one has to put a 3/8" spacer between the turbo flange and the exhaust manifold flange. Also, the manifold will need to have a nipple welded on, and a tube communicating air from the turbocharger to the intake manifold will have to be arranged. I think there are forum members here who will do the welding for a fee. The spacer can be made with a drill press, a hack saw, and a round file (that's how I did mine), but if you know someone with a Bridgeport, milling one out would be the quickest way. You also have to remove the studs from the exhaust manifold (carefully, with a lot of penetrating oil), and install longer ones (avail. from Autozone), that will reach through the spacer, through the turbo flange, and to the nut.
EDIT: Hooking up the stock exhaust to the HX-30 was no biggie for me, and it will be obvious how its done upon closer inspection, but a custom 3" exhaust would be the ideal thing to do.
Like was said before, you should really start running numbers (google "not2fast turbo calculator") to get a more narrowly-defined picture of what you want from your engine.
05-20-2009, 10:35 AM
#8
(05-20-2009, 10:30 AM)GREASY_BEAST Like was said before, you should really start running numbers (google "not2fast turbo calculator") to get a more narrowly-defined picture of what you want from your engine.
Here is one set up for an OM617.
http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/glossary/t...utyCycle=0
Change the RPM and boost to fit your situation.
Its a really fun too. I've tried everything from a 25cc weedeater to the 25,333L 14-cylinder Wärtsilä-Sulzer RTA96-C engine.
This post was last modified: 05-20-2009, 10:37 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
05-20-2009, 10:35 AM
#8
(05-20-2009, 10:30 AM)GREASY_BEAST Like was said before, you should really start running numbers (google "not2fast turbo calculator") to get a more narrowly-defined picture of what you want from your engine.
Here is one set up for an OM617.
http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/glossary/t...utyCycle=0
Change the RPM and boost to fit your situation.
Its a really fun too. I've tried everything from a 25cc weedeater to the 25,333L 14-cylinder Wärtsilä-Sulzer RTA96-C engine.
05-21-2009, 04:30 AM
#9
This one actually looks very good. It will bolt onto the exhaust manifold and should spool very nicely on a 617.
ForcedInduction
05-21-2009, 04:30 AM
#9
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSET-HY...0348293345
This one actually looks very good. It will bolt onto the exhaust manifold and should spool very nicely on a 617.
05-21-2009, 08:47 AM
#10
(05-21-2009, 04:30 AM)ForcedInduction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSET-HY...0348293345
This one actually looks very good. It will bolt onto the exhaust manifold and should spool very nicely on a 617.
Agreed. The compressor looks great. See if you can get the seller to show you a photo of the turbine though.
GREASY_BEAST
05-21-2009, 08:47 AM #10(05-21-2009, 04:30 AM)ForcedInduction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSET-HY...0348293345
This one actually looks very good. It will bolt onto the exhaust manifold and should spool very nicely on a 617.
Agreed. The compressor looks great. See if you can get the seller to show you a photo of the turbine though.
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