my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel
my w124 606 962 Superturbodiesel
by my second infirmity, I have decided to build a 24v turbo diesel.
I bought a used 606 962 ...
I'm still not sure whether I should remove the cylinder head or not to rebuild.
someone has a good solution to the intake manifold and exhaust manifold for? hx40w with T3 flange should fit.
thank you
hansebanger77
08-31-2011, 02:01 PM #1hello again!
by my second infirmity, I have decided to build a 24v turbo diesel.
I bought a used 606 962 ...
I'm still not sure whether I should remove the cylinder head or not to rebuild.
someone has a good solution to the intake manifold and exhaust manifold for? hx40w with T3 flange should fit.
thank you
1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.
2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
Sounds like a good project! Good luck!
1998 MB E300 - 194,000 miles. Current/future mods: 7.5mm pump elements, Holset HX40 Turbo feeding Eaton M90 supercharger through custom fabbed intake system. Aeroturbine muffler, scratch-built 4" stainless exhaust. EGR eliminated, ECM recalibrated, modified rack position feedback circuit. Porterfield RS brake pads, Bilstein sport shocks, VDO EGT, oil and boost gauges.
2000 Ford F250 - 150,000 miles. Current/future mods: DP Tuner 3 map chip, scratch-built high flow intake, high output IDM, open circuit fuel system, ball bearing turbo, South Bend full metal clutch, slotted and drilled rotors. Autometer Sport Comp EGT and boost gauges.
performance exhaust manifold? anyone can build me one.. ?
hansebanger77
09-02-2011, 04:41 AM #3What throttle linkage for 606 in w124?
performance exhaust manifold? anyone can build me one.. ?
and the 606 turbo is electric...
hansebanger77
09-02-2011, 01:49 PM #5ahh a 606 NA is stock mechanikal linkage? with a normal mech pump same as 603? an shuld fit plug and play?
and the 606 turbo is electric...
any tips to drill out ?
hansebanger77
09-19-2011, 09:51 AM #7There are two pins are pulled down. now stuck in the head.
any tips to drill out ?
(09-19-2011, 09:51 AM)hansebanger77 There are two pins are pulled down. now stuck in the head.
any tips to drill out ?
You mean glow plugs? There is a thread here and a DIY on peachparts. Its not pretty.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
(09-19-2011, 09:51 AM)hansebanger77 There are two pins are pulled down. now stuck in the head.
any tips to drill out ?
You mean glow plugs? There is a thread here and a DIY on peachparts. Its not pretty.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
thanks i fixt the problem.
i only ned a pood picture of the original linkage of a 606. i think olso perhaps the inj pump have a other as the 603. but not sure.
the pump is installt and engine is runnig at18° ADC verry well
but I must remove the pump again, because the timing is on 18° maxed out to late.
hansebanger77
09-23-2011, 02:33 PM #9no it was the bolt for the exhaust manifold.
thanks i fixt the problem.
i only ned a pood picture of the original linkage of a 606. i think olso perhaps the inj pump have a other as the 603. but not sure.
the pump is installt and engine is runnig at18° ADC verry well
but I must remove the pump again, because the timing is on 18° maxed out to late.
the engine is in.
can someone help me with the speedmeter ? or RPM-meter dont know the right word.. to see the rpm inside the car.. haha
the sensor does not fit from 603 to 606t engine
and the 606 stock aso not because the sensor does not fit to the flywheel.
It was an automatic gearbox on the 606 engine. and i take my 5 speed gearbox from a 603 again with stock 603 flyweel.
what can i doo? is ther a way over the generator?
thx
hansebanger77
10-05-2011, 02:49 PM #10hi
the engine is in.
can someone help me with the speedmeter ? or RPM-meter dont know the right word.. to see the rpm inside the car.. haha
the sensor does not fit from 603 to 606t engine
and the 606 stock aso not because the sensor does not fit to the flywheel.
It was an automatic gearbox on the 606 engine. and i take my 5 speed gearbox from a 603 again with stock 603 flyweel.
what can i doo? is ther a way over the generator?
thx
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
10-11-2011, 12:27 PM #12holy jebus! Thanks for the updates keep them coming great progress
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
can I use the oil filter housing from the 603? on my 606?
I think the 606 is no pressure sensor?? wtf?
An advantage would be also the oil cooler line would fit again 1 to 1 to the 603 housing. apart from the pressure switch ..
thx
hansebanger77
10-14-2011, 05:17 AM #13hi!
can I use the oil filter housing from the 603? on my 606?
I think the 606 is no pressure sensor?? wtf?
An advantage would be also the oil cooler line would fit again 1 to 1 to the 603 housing. apart from the pressure switch ..
thx
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...24-10.html
Zeitgeist did it on his 124/606 dealio:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...24-10.html
Today I had time to work on my benz.
The oil filter 603 housing fits and now the oil cooler as well.
I built the new turbo housing with the rest of my hx 40 together. and turned the middle section and the compressor-side so that everything fits.
oil inlet and oil outlet I've already finished. Oil flow was a disaster. everywhere so little space. just past at the manifold flange, compressor outlet and manifold pipe itself
but I guess it could fit.the glow wire I soldered. matches the stock relays now.
today the first start!
everything in the green range
I'm happy I made a lot today
Next
intercooler pipes
Intake adapt
Connect the water cooler and heater
new downpipe
ETG
Drill hole for rpm meter sensor
testdrive
hansebanger77
10-27-2011, 03:37 PM #16hi guys
Today I had time to work on my benz.
The oil filter 603 housing fits and now the oil cooler as well.
I built the new turbo housing with the rest of my hx 40 together. and turned the middle section and the compressor-side so that everything fits.
oil inlet and oil outlet I've already finished. Oil flow was a disaster. everywhere so little space. just past at the manifold flange, compressor outlet and manifold pipe itself but I guess it could fit.
the glow wire I soldered. matches the stock relays now.
today the first start!
everything in the green range
I'm happy I made a lot today
Next
intercooler pipes
Intake adapt
Connect the water cooler and heater
new downpipe
ETG
Drill hole for rpm meter sensor
testdrive
I think I'm out of luck ......
I did everything together as far as I can made a test drive ..
once full throttle and the power went off .. I was briefly with 2.3 par boost pressure
then the power was off, I thought my worst. motor is running shit .. no idle ..
i think for a moment o fuuuck my rods ore somsing is damaged.. how the finns can drive like hell and go on driftrace with a sock never open 606 turbo and drive 2.5bar and nothing happen with de engin..? damn
I just now tested the timing .. (with position sensorless original MB)
Both leds light at about 3 degrees after dead center ????? WTF ????????????
how can that be?
last week i tested the timing 2 times. I let the engine run 10min. and placed in degrees to 20. to go on safely because went to sharper adjustment is later no problem.
how can this happen?
thx
Hans
hansebanger77
10-31-2011, 09:00 AM #18hi
I think I'm out of luck ......
I did everything together as far as I can made a test drive ..
once full throttle and the power went off .. I was briefly with 2.3 par boost pressure
then the power was off, I thought my worst. motor is running shit .. no idle ..
i think for a moment o fuuuck my rods ore somsing is damaged.. how the finns can drive like hell and go on driftrace with a sock never open 606 turbo and drive 2.5bar and nothing happen with de engin..? damn
I just now tested the timing .. (with position sensorless original MB)
Both leds light at about 3 degrees after dead center ????? WTF ????????????
how can that be?
last week i tested the timing 2 times. I let the engine run 10min. and placed in degrees to 20. to go on safely because went to sharper adjustment is later no problem.
how can this happen?
thx
Hans
(10-29-2011, 02:39 PM)ritvarsx Take a video!here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUeRgrKgxM
hansebanger77
11-02-2011, 08:39 AM #19(10-29-2011, 02:39 PM)ritvarsx Take a video!here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUeRgrKgxM
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-02-2011, 08:10 PM #20That thing sounds nasty!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
hansebanger77
11-03-2011, 02:34 AM #22The loud klack was the injection variable thing in front of the pump. Timing was at 2 deg. Now i used the from 603 unclude vaacum pump and all is ok again
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-03-2011, 10:32 AM #23Driving video! I want to see that car go!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
If the 617 ever dies in my w123 i want to put a 606 in it as you did in your w124.
That or a 4bt cummins
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
Beautiful.
If the 617 ever dies in my w123 i want to put a 606 in it as you did in your w124.
That or a 4bt cummins
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(11-03-2011, 10:32 AM)Captain America Driving video! I want to see that car go!
at weekend i hope i could make the downpipe and exhaust so i can drive without dieselsmoke inside the car
(11-03-2011, 11:47 AM)MFSuper90 Beautiful.
If the 617 ever dies in my w123 i want to put a 606 in it as you did in your w124.
That or a 4bt cummins
617 never dies hehe
(11-03-2011, 02:26 PM)majesty78 Was machstn Du einmal im Jahr wennst zum Pickerl mußt? *g*
guade Frog
in februar is vorbei mit da Hetzt irged a linke muss ja no wo gebm *g*
hansebanger77
11-03-2011, 03:37 PM #26(11-03-2011, 10:32 AM)Captain America Driving video! I want to see that car go!
at weekend i hope i could make the downpipe and exhaust so i can drive without dieselsmoke inside the car
(11-03-2011, 11:47 AM)MFSuper90 Beautiful.
If the 617 ever dies in my w123 i want to put a 606 in it as you did in your w124.
That or a 4bt cummins
617 never dies hehe
(11-03-2011, 02:26 PM)majesty78 Was machstn Du einmal im Jahr wennst zum Pickerl mußt? *g*
guade Frog
in februar is vorbei mit da Hetzt irged a linke muss ja no wo gebm *g*
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-03-2011, 04:26 PM #27man i really need to get my hands on an om606 lol
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
what about EGT's ?? where is the limit for om 606 ? i testet the max today is 720C celsius at 2.2 bar boost
thanks
hansebanger77
11-06-2011, 05:11 PM #28hi!
what about EGT's ?? where is the limit for om 606 ? i testet the max today is 720C celsius at 2.2 bar boost
thanks
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-06-2011, 10:43 PM #29i think thats great! i believe they said something like shouldn't go over 800c? dont quote me on that though. just trying to help lol.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
its variable for a muffler and pipe.
what universal muffler i can use to make it silent and performance for daly drive? i have a flowmaster but i think it make to much backpressure.
hansebanger77
11-21-2011, 05:32 AM #313.5" downpipe and straitpipe
its variable for a muffler and pipe.
what universal muffler i can use to make it silent and performance for daly drive? i have a flowmaster but i think it make to much backpressure.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-21-2011, 08:32 AM #32i hear good things about dynomax superturbo mufflers. small back pressure and good sound!
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
hansebanger77
11-21-2011, 01:00 PM #33thanks i will check this..
currently drive still a pipe without anything
Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750Nm
Magst vielleicht auch für meinen CDI ne Auspuffanlage schweißen*g*
Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750Nm
aber der macht dir das sicher auch..
hansebanger77
11-22-2011, 06:38 AM #35würde ich sofort! leider ist der WIG schweisser nicht von mir gewesen aber der macht dir das sicher auch..
hansebanger77
11-23-2011, 01:13 AM #37Auf keinen Fall hätte ich mehr platz würde er noch größer sein gg
it was a 717 433 bevore and i bougth the same again. now its broken again. every time the 3. gear is damaged... 1. and 2. gear always spinning tires sometimes 3. too. because long diff. if i get grip the 3rd it break..
any better boxes on mercedes secor?
if it is not absolutely necessary, then I would shift myself. So no automatic.
thx
hansebanger77
11-23-2011, 07:05 AM #38i think not many people look in drivetrain topics so im sorry i ask here again.
it was a 717 433 bevore and i bougth the same again. now its broken again. every time the 3. gear is damaged... 1. and 2. gear always spinning tires sometimes 3. too. because long diff. if i get grip the 3rd it break..
any better boxes on mercedes secor?
if it is not absolutely necessary, then I would shift myself. So no automatic.
thx
(09-19-2011, 09:51 AM)hansebanger77 There are two pins are pulled down. now stuck in the head.
any tips to drill out ?
I had 3 exhaust studs broke of 3-4mm in the holes, inside the head of my 605.. i put a mig welder inside of the holes, and "buildt" out a nodge, and welded a nut to that... wrenched the nut out
I wount hurt the head, because its aluminium
And wrench while its hot as hell, then its easyest to loosen
(09-19-2011, 09:51 AM)hansebanger77 There are two pins are pulled down. now stuck in the head.
any tips to drill out ?
I had 3 exhaust studs broke of 3-4mm in the holes, inside the head of my 605.. i put a mig welder inside of the holes, and "buildt" out a nodge, and welded a nut to that... wrenched the nut out
I wount hurt the head, because its aluminium
And wrench while its hot as hell, then its easyest to loosen
(11-23-2011, 07:05 AM)hansebanger77 if it is not absolutely necessary, then I would shift myself. So no automatic.Why no automatic ?
thx
You can shift youself. if using 722.6
I know this is a lousy video i will upload a better one soom :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw2tKdLJvl0
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=3114
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
(11-23-2011, 07:05 AM)hansebanger77 if it is not absolutely necessary, then I would shift myself. So no automatic.Why no automatic ?
thx
You can shift youself. if using 722.6
I know this is a lousy video i will upload a better one soom :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw2tKdLJvl0
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...p?tid=3114
1996 MB SL320 Now OM606 7 mm pump elements (myna), KKD manifold, HE341VE, 3,5" downpipe, 3" exhaust, big IC, 722.6 gearbox controller, also controls (Turbo VNT, EGT, BOOST, EGP.)
What about the 6 speed from 230 kompressor ? Or some cdi tranny to shift ? Thanks
hansebanger77
11-26-2011, 12:01 PM #41Thats verry nice but a lot of work to Do this Projekt.
What about the 6 speed from 230 kompressor ? Or some cdi tranny to shift ? Thanks
I've found that I only take 7mm and not 7.5mm elements ..
so I was hoping for 350ps and not the 400 +
data and video coming tomorrow
i only make 2 runs. at 2. i adjust the pump only for 1,5 deg later.
then i let is so how it is.. done.. im verry happy with the resault because only 7mm. for dailydriving enough
dont want know what happend at good adjustments on 7.5
ohh and the rpm are little different the engine make 6000 or little more. so you must about 250-300 rpm add on to the the curve. sorry
hansebanger77
12-06-2011, 03:34 PM #42Today was on the Dynojet
I've found that I only take 7mm and not 7.5mm elements ..
so I was hoping for 350ps and not the 400 +
data and video coming tomorrow
i only make 2 runs. at 2. i adjust the pump only for 1,5 deg later. then i let is so how it is.. done..
im verry happy with the resault because only 7mm. for dailydriving enough
dont want know what happend at good adjustments on 7.5
ohh and the rpm are little different the engine make 6000 or little more. so you must about 250-300 rpm add on to the the curve. sorry
(12-07-2011, 07:28 AM)ritvarsx Very niceTake acceleration video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zQyTW-OmTQ
this is the dynorun
it is horrible to drive at full trottle.. the roads are already slippery and it is cold outside...
I'm a bit scared when coming the ass in the 4th gear
if it stops raining I will try a video.
hansebanger77
12-07-2011, 09:19 AM #44(12-07-2011, 07:28 AM)ritvarsx Very nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zQyTW-OmTQ
this is the dynorun
it is horrible to drive at full trottle.. the roads are already slippery and it is cold outside...
I'm a bit scared when coming the ass in the 4th gear
if it stops raining I will try a video.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-07-2011, 11:48 PM #45Absolutely love the stock look. Congratulations on the numbers
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
(12-07-2011, 11:48 PM)George3soccer Absolutely love the stock look. Congratulations on the numbers
wintertires
Quote:Nice job I have heard that the rods would not last long at that power we will see how long yours last. I have a 95 with the hx 35 and know need to invest in upgraded pump. Would really like this kind of power out of mine.
if i had 7.5mm elements it would be much more. so i hope also the 606 hold longer then the 603´s i had
hansebanger77
12-11-2011, 02:52 PM #47(12-07-2011, 11:48 PM)George3soccer Absolutely love the stock look. Congratulations on the numbers
wintertires
Quote:Nice job I have heard that the rods would not last long at that power we will see how long yours last. I have a 95 with the hx 35 and know need to invest in upgraded pump. Would really like this kind of power out of mine.
if i had 7.5mm elements it would be much more. so i hope also the 606 hold longer then the 603´s i had
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-11-2011, 10:57 PM #48What one of power did you make with your 603 when they went out of commission. Care to share some details about your 603 projects.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
hansebanger77
12-12-2011, 01:54 AM #49Dont know about the Power never was on dyno. Same ip and turbo as now. But too high egt. There is a tread where i post the rebuild of NA and turbo engine and all the damages .
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
George3soccer
12-12-2011, 10:55 AM #50Oh yes, I do remember now totally forgot that was you in those previous posts.
Mb 1984 w201 om603 swap.
Mb 1986 w201 190E 2.3-16v
Mb 2004 w203 C230k
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