Dual Air Filters OM617
Dual Air Filters OM617
11-23-2011, 10:47 AM
#1
Something like this?
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'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
11-23-2011, 10:47 AM #1So its time to rip out that OEM Air cleaner off my '84 300 SD. Would a dual filter set up coming right off my turbo be any better than just a singel filter? Or is it just a waste of time. Im planing on using pcp piping for the tubing.
Something like this?
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'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
11-23-2011, 05:34 PM
#4
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
11-23-2011, 05:34 PM #4Aren't the K&N style filters washable? I put a fram 8038 in recently but I didn't really notice any significant change in power/performance
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
11-23-2011, 06:39 PM
#5
and its cold....
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
11-23-2011, 06:39 PM #5Whats the measurement of the turbo where the stock air filter hooks onto it? Like 3 in? I would go out and look at my car but Im too lazy and its cold....
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
11-24-2011, 03:58 AM
#7
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
mike-81-240d
11-24-2011, 03:58 AM #7I noticed a loss of torque off the line with the Fram 8038. I finally switched back to the OEM air cleaner last week.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
11-24-2011, 11:25 AM
#8
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
11-24-2011, 11:25 AM #8An air filter has absolutely nothing to do with off the line torque. And the double air filter thing there is comical
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
11-24-2011, 11:55 AM
#9
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
11-24-2011, 11:55 AM #9use one air filter.
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
11-24-2011, 01:23 PM
#10
If you decided to run 2 filters like that, it is not going to hurt anything..its not going to help anything.
If you wanna do it like that, then go for it.
I have always used K&N style filters on my om617's
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
Bottom line, some people like the big paper Fram filter, some people like the K&N style filter.
If you decided to run 2 filters like that, it is not going to hurt anything..its not going to help anything.
If you wanna do it like that, then go for it.
I have always used K&N style filters on my om617's
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
11-24-2011, 05:17 PM
#11
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
11-24-2011, 05:17 PM #11What size of K&N filter do you use Garage? Do u plump it it with pipe? Or just mount it on the turbo?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
11-24-2011, 05:47 PM
#12
This pic is on a federal model, so it has all the emissions crap on it, the other Benz dosnt, but its not here for me to take a pic of right now.
Excuse the dirtyness, this isnt my car otherwise itd be shiny. haha
![[Image: car.jpg]](http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc498/ivebeencanceled/car.jpg)
I had a 240D that had the intake modded so i could mount a K&N filter directly on the front of the manifold. But that wasnt a turbo car.
EDIT: This car has ran on straight WVO for i dont even know how many years now, lots and lots of miles on veg and this style filter and shes still going strong.
This post was last modified: 11-24-2011, 05:50 PM by garage.
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
I use a K&N STYLE filter on the 2 turbo cars in front of my house.
This pic is on a federal model, so it has all the emissions crap on it, the other Benz dosnt, but its not here for me to take a pic of right now.
Excuse the dirtyness, this isnt my car otherwise itd be shiny. haha
I had a 240D that had the intake modded so i could mount a K&N filter directly on the front of the manifold. But that wasnt a turbo car.
EDIT: This car has ran on straight WVO for i dont even know how many years now, lots and lots of miles on veg and this style filter and shes still going strong.
1987 300D: EGR Delete, ARV Delete, Cold Air Intake...
11-24-2011, 05:49 PM
#13
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-24-2011, 05:49 PM #13I dont think the 617 even uses 400cfm so two filters would be waaaaaaaaay overkill
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-24-2011, 07:37 PM
#15
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8772-Unive...sim_auto_6
And something alone these lines
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8738-Chrom...auto_img_b
And then Im going to pick this filter up
http://www.amazon.com/RC-4650-Universal-...24&sr=1-12
Thanks everybody for your input! Happy ThanksGiving to my peps in the US of A
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
11-24-2011, 07:37 PM #15This is the stuff Im going to buy for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8772-Unive...sim_auto_6
And something alone these lines
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8738-Chrom...auto_img_b
And then Im going to pick this filter up
http://www.amazon.com/RC-4650-Universal-...24&sr=1-12
Thanks everybody for your input! Happy ThanksGiving to my peps in the US of A
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
11-25-2011, 04:55 PM
#16
(11-24-2011, 05:51 PM)garage(11-24-2011, 05:49 PM)Captain America I dont think the 617 even uses 400cfm so two filters would be waaaaaaaaay overkill
Who asked you Cody?
haha
Quiet David! lol
(11-24-2011, 07:37 PM)serverman777 This is the stuff Im going to buy for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8772-Unive...sim_auto_6
And something alone these lines
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8738-Chrom...auto_img_b
And then Im going to pick this filter up
http://www.amazon.com/RC-4650-Universal-...24&sr=1-12
Thanks everybody for your input! Happy ThanksGiving to my peps in the US of A
I would reccomend a nice dry filter such as a AEM, they wont get oil everywhere and most of the time you can just tap the dirt out of them or LIGHTLY blow it out. They last longer too
http://www.aemintakes.com/dryflow_air_filters.htm
http://www.aemintakes.com/search/univcone.aspx
Oh! And they filter much better than a K&N piece of shit
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-25-2011, 04:55 PM #16(11-24-2011, 05:51 PM)garage(11-24-2011, 05:49 PM)Captain America I dont think the 617 even uses 400cfm so two filters would be waaaaaaaaay overkill
Who asked you Cody?
haha
Quiet David! lol
(11-24-2011, 07:37 PM)serverman777 This is the stuff Im going to buy for my car.
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8772-Unive...sim_auto_6
And something alone these lines
http://www.amazon.com/Spectre-8738-Chrom...auto_img_b
And then Im going to pick this filter up
http://www.amazon.com/RC-4650-Universal-...24&sr=1-12
Thanks everybody for your input! Happy ThanksGiving to my peps in the US of A
I would reccomend a nice dry filter such as a AEM, they wont get oil everywhere and most of the time you can just tap the dirt out of them or LIGHTLY blow it out. They last longer too
http://www.aemintakes.com/dryflow_air_filters.htm
http://www.aemintakes.com/search/univcone.aspx
Oh! And they filter much better than a K&N piece of shit
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-26-2011, 08:37 AM
#17
Purplecomputer
11-26-2011, 08:37 AM #17you want the coldest air coming into the engine as possible. These racing style filters let nothing but hot engine air from the engine compartment in. Stick with OEM and youll be fine. Besides even though they look cool there completely useless
11-27-2011, 08:17 PM
#18
i swear sometimes i miss lance.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
the oil based gauze filters are crap. ive used them. ive done the research. might as well put a screen door on the turbo inlet. the stock setup flows 2x more than stock fueling will ever need. these are not gassers they are compression ignition cars. dirt===abrasive = lower compression. these are not some shitbox ricers or american pos, they are hand designed engineering marvels treat them as such.
i swear sometimes i miss lance.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
11-28-2011, 05:24 PM
#19
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-28-2011, 05:24 PM #19American pos? Hey now....
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
11-28-2011, 06:43 PM
#20
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
11-28-2011, 06:43 PM #20shitbox ricers? All I eat is rice
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
11-29-2011, 02:34 AM
#21
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
11-29-2011, 02:34 AM #21Thats better
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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