standard injection pump om603 to om606
standard injection pump om603 to om606
if standard om603 turbo diesel pump injection is not efficient enough to get the full power of 177hp ???? Do I need to modify it ??? i need only 177hp power.
Do I need to upgrade from a pump injection turbo diesel om603 to apply it in om606 turbo diesel engine that had the power of 177hp?
if standard om603 turbo diesel pump injection is not efficient enough to get the full power of 177hp ???? Do I need to modify it ??? i need only 177hp power.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
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SurfRodder
06-06-2009, 11:16 AM #4probably not... as Tom said, the element size is different. As I understand it, that extra .5mm allows for the injection of a significant amount of fuel... why are you trying this swap? if you let us know what you are doing, some one will probably come up with *something* to help you out.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
This needs some skill maybe you better try to find the original one.
In case you are making some other modification such as swaps (engine and tranny) and your motivation is to avoid electronic trouble then I would go for the lower power of the 603 IP and later upgrade the complete system (turbo, exhaust, intercooler,...).
Let us know what is the reason behind your question.
Tom
assuming your 606 needs a replacement IP and this is not available only one out of a 603, I would try to run the car temporary with the 603.
This needs some skill maybe you better try to find the original one.
In case you are making some other modification such as swaps (engine and tranny) and your motivation is to avoid electronic trouble then I would go for the lower power of the 603 IP and later upgrade the complete system (turbo, exhaust, intercooler,...).
Let us know what is the reason behind your question.
Tom
(06-06-2009, 11:36 AM)magik wants to have a om606 in w201 without electronics and want to have around 170-180 hp power
I dont want modify the injection pump because it's expensive operation. I want use the original mechanical pump with a different engine
O.K. now we are getting closer.
In my opinion with everything perfect except the IP (just maxed out) it might be possible to get 170 hp maybe more but at least the IP brings the big step.
Tom
(06-06-2009, 11:36 AM)magik wants to have a om606 in w201 without electronics and want to have around 170-180 hp power
I dont want modify the injection pump because it's expensive operation. I want use the original mechanical pump with a different engine
O.K. now we are getting closer.
In my opinion with everything perfect except the IP (just maxed out) it might be possible to get 170 hp maybe more but at least the IP brings the big step.
Tom
this method http://superturbodiesel.com/std/ip-full-...t-189.html for full adjusting is good ???
better not to modify the pump because it will be costly. I hope that it will work correctly without modification.
this method http://superturbodiesel.com/std/ip-full-...t-189.html for full adjusting is good ???
(06-07-2009, 05:27 AM)magik better not to modify the pump because it will be costly. I hope that it will work correctly without modification.
this method http://superturbodiesel.com/std/ip-full-...t-189.html for full adjusting is good ???
this is a very good write up, but it is not a point to point list for tweaking an IP by an unskilled person. It helps to understand, once understood it also indicates roughly what to do but with individual variations possible. Beyond a certain level of required power and/or requirements on emissions you will need the advice of a specialist equipped with special tools and a bench.
Record all modification and check (road test) after each single modification.
Do not dream of following the write up with an IP on the table, install it and see a perfect result immediately.
Tom
(06-07-2009, 05:27 AM)magik better not to modify the pump because it will be costly. I hope that it will work correctly without modification.
this method http://superturbodiesel.com/std/ip-full-...t-189.html for full adjusting is good ???
this is a very good write up, but it is not a point to point list for tweaking an IP by an unskilled person. It helps to understand, once understood it also indicates roughly what to do but with individual variations possible. Beyond a certain level of required power and/or requirements on emissions you will need the advice of a specialist equipped with special tools and a bench.
Record all modification and check (road test) after each single modification.
Do not dream of following the write up with an IP on the table, install it and see a perfect result immediately.
Tom
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
in the G-wagen forums, I hear people looking specifically for the mechanical IP from the 3.5L 603 engine to mate with the 606 3L engine. The reasoning being that the IP from the OM603 D3.5 moves a little more fuel than it's 3L counterpart.
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'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
I am trying to get the e300 IP elements into a 617 m-pump. If it works, it should for the 603 as well.
ForcedInduction
06-08-2009, 03:04 PM
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That is due to tuning. They use the same pump model.
I am trying to get the e300 IP elements into a 617 m-pump. If it works, it should for the 603 as well.
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