holset 35 super vs masterpower (4449-2 or 545-2)

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offroadbakos

K26-2

31

12-20-2011, 07:00 AM #1

ok i need your input !!! Big Grin

so far i have

1 X om605 turbo engine

1 X om606 turbo engine

kkd manifold (to order)

myna pump (to order)

goal is 280hp min -350 hp max

torque ?? as much as possible as low as possible

the car wdb 461.336 (G wagen '99)

wich of the following turbochargers would be the better choice since they are at a similar price range

thank you all for your input Big Grin

offroadbakos

12-20-2011, 07:00 AM #1

ok i need your input !!! Big Grin

so far i have

1 X om605 turbo engine

1 X om606 turbo engine

kkd manifold (to order)

myna pump (to order)

goal is 280hp min -350 hp max

torque ?? as much as possible as low as possible

the car wdb 461.336 (G wagen '99)

wich of the following turbochargers would be the better choice since they are at a similar price range

thank you all for your input Big Grin

jeemu

"some people do, some people talk."

457

12-22-2011, 10:36 AM #2

How about between those two Master Powers?
R474-3

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

jeemu

12-22-2011, 10:36 AM #2

How about between those two Master Powers?
R474-3

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

offroadbakos

K26-2

31

12-22-2011, 01:52 PM #3

(12-22-2011, 10:36 AM)jeemu How about between those two Master Powers?
R474-3

i hear you Big Grin

thanks for your input .
is this a turbo i can use with both engines?
sorry for being apain in the ..... Rolleyes

but i ask because i intend to run both engines with similar set up (myna ip & kkd manifold)

thanks again

offroadbakos

12-22-2011, 01:52 PM #3

(12-22-2011, 10:36 AM)jeemu How about between those two Master Powers?
R474-3

i hear you Big Grin

thanks for your input .
is this a turbo i can use with both engines?
sorry for being apain in the ..... Rolleyes

but i ask because i intend to run both engines with similar set up (myna ip & kkd manifold)

thanks again

jeemu

"some people do, some people talk."

457

12-23-2011, 09:16 AM #4

Hi. Of cource you can.

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

jeemu

12-23-2011, 09:16 AM #4

Hi. Of cource you can.

OM605 600hp diesel drag car build with BMW E30 chassis

antonmies

Go MPR

59

12-23-2011, 10:10 AM #5

I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

antonmies

12-23-2011, 10:10 AM #5

I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

offroadbakos

K26-2

31

12-24-2011, 08:06 AM #6

(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?

offroadbakos

12-24-2011, 08:06 AM #6

(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?

antonmies

Go MPR

59

12-27-2011, 06:00 AM #7

(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos
(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?

It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

antonmies

12-27-2011, 06:00 AM #7

(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos
(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?

offroadbakos

K26-2

31

12-27-2011, 09:23 AM #8

(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies
(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos
(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?
It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics

offroadbakos

12-27-2011, 09:23 AM #8

(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies
(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos
(12-23-2011, 10:10 AM)antonmies I would say 474-3 is OK for both engines, but in OM605 it would spool a bit later. Ask Kalle for 38mm runners for better response (I think it's a default).

hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?
It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics

antonmies

Go MPR

59

12-27-2011, 09:30 AM #9

(12-27-2011, 09:23 AM)offroadbakos
(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies
(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?
It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics

I will do that for you!

antonmies

12-27-2011, 09:30 AM #9

(12-27-2011, 09:23 AM)offroadbakos
(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies
(12-24-2011, 08:06 AM)offroadbakos hi Anton i have one more question on your site it describes the turbos as watercooled does this mean i have to route engine coolant or can i use the oil cooling like with the original turbo?
It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics

I will do that for you!

offroadbakos

K26-2

31

12-27-2011, 09:34 AM #10

(12-27-2011, 09:30 AM)antonmies
(12-27-2011, 09:23 AM)offroadbakos
(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics
I will do that for you!

you really are fast ...i am impressed Big Grin

i will contact you after holidays for details on email happy new year!!!

offroadbakos

12-27-2011, 09:34 AM #10

(12-27-2011, 09:30 AM)antonmies
(12-27-2011, 09:23 AM)offroadbakos
(12-27-2011, 06:00 AM)antonmies It's recommended to use the watercooling. It greatly reduces oil clogging due to high temperature afer shutdown.
Easiest way to do this is to take the water from cabin heater's water hoses for example. I have necessary banjo bolts and push lock fittings for the turbo.
Without the water in the jacket, the air within acts as heat insulation reducing the radiation from the bearing housing surface.

thanks Anton i stay in touch for details since i never seen a watercooled turbo you will have to provide me with all the necesary fittings and shematics
I will do that for you!

you really are fast ...i am impressed Big Grin

i will contact you after holidays for details on email happy new year!!!

antonmies

Go MPR

59

12-27-2011, 10:23 AM #11

Happy new year to you too! Actually, happy new year to everybody!
[Image: xmas_english.jpg]

antonmies

12-27-2011, 10:23 AM #11

Happy new year to you too! Actually, happy new year to everybody!
[Image: xmas_english.jpg]

offroadbakos

K26-2

31

09-27-2013, 06:29 AM #12

).
KKD manifold ....Nice work Kalle , and the wastegate ,all finally here.
now I am waiting till mid oktober for the Myna ip.
pictures to follow.

offroadbakos

09-27-2013, 06:29 AM #12

After a long stand still , due to the situation at home , I am getting ready to continue.
A Big thanks to Anton for his help.
The input of Jeemu as always very helpfull.
turbocharger is here , what a sensation (my wife got a bit jealous of the way I was petting the turbo Big Grin ).
KKD manifold ....Nice work Kalle , and the wastegate ,all finally here.
now I am waiting till mid oktober for the Myna ip.
pictures to follow.