H&R Sport Springs W126
H&R Sport Springs W126
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product/747...9559_.html
But it says "Chasis: W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel" which Im having a real hard time understanding. I got a 500 SEL parts car that I know for a fact they are the same springs all the way around. Unless Im dreaming that statement of not fitting a diesel is false. Anybody have any insight? Anybody used these?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
12-26-2011, 10:40 PM #1I really wants these
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product/747...9559_.html
But it says "Chasis: W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel" which Im having a real hard time understanding. I got a 500 SEL parts car that I know for a fact they are the same springs all the way around. Unless Im dreaming that statement of not fitting a diesel is false. Anybody have any insight? Anybody used these?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
iheartboost
12-26-2011, 11:39 PM #2im 99% sure they are the same springs but they havent tested it on a diesel model so they dont say it fits. the only other thing i can think of is perhaps the diesel motor in the front being heavier. but if its just a 617 i doubt itll be heavier than a v8
1998 E300TD 7.5mm pump and hx35 to come!
00 Mustang gt drift car
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
01-07-2012, 08:07 PM #4What part of KY do you live in 300sd_KY?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
01-08-2012, 10:20 PM #7Bloomington IN. About 2.5 hours north of louisville.
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
Give me 20 gallons of diesel and 3 quarts of 10w-40 and I be down there in less than 2 hours.
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
01-08-2012, 10:35 PM #9Its that w126 for you Give me 20 gallons of diesel and 3 quarts of 10w-40 and I be down there in less than 2 hours.
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
need Tech to weigh in here ...
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
(01-12-2012, 03:32 PM)300SD_KY need Tech to weigh in here ...
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
Priddin
02-21-2012, 08:08 PM #11Kentucky huh, i will have keep my eyes open to see if i can find you. Im in the fairdale area
(01-12-2012, 03:32 PM)300SD_KY need Tech to weigh in here ...
what: I purchased a set of H&R sport springs (product code 29559) ... already installed front & rear sets of Bilsteins HDs.
Also purchased the spring shims in 3 sizes (small, medium and large).
Question: can i reliably use these W126 springs for my W116 vehicle that weighs 145 kg (318 lbs) more than what the W126 springs are advertised (built) for?
Yes? No? Issues?
... background:
... ... the W126 V8 long wheel base Benz weighs in at 1,670 kg (3,682 lb).
... ... ... my W116 turbo diesel benz weighs in at 1,815 kg (4,000 lb)
yes, i've contacted the spring manufacturer ... they say the W126 springs won't work with W116s ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Reiner
From my 1986 W126 supplementary manual:
Front springs:
126.035 <(420SEL - 3604 lbs OR 1635 kg) & 126.125 <(300SDL - 3649 lbs OR 1655 kg) - 126 321 17 04 <(same p# as the 300SD - 3625 lbs OR 1644 kg, so the spring for a 420SEL should work just fine.)
126.039 <(560SEL - 4090 lbs OR 1859kg ) & 126.045 <(560SEC - 3880 lbs OR 1759 kg) - 126 321 18 04 <(heavier car, by 200 lbs...so a heavier spring?)
Rear springs:v
126.035 <(420SEL) & 126.125 <(300SDL) - 116 324 08 04 or 116 324 11 04
126.039 <(560SEL) & 126.045 - 115 324 27 04 or 123 324 06 04
Note...I did call H&R they put me thru to a tech, he said the kit we're talking about has been around for 20+ years...he didn't know why they weren't "approved" for the diesels...said they either never tested them on the diesels or they DID and there was some other reason like because of the weight difference, they might not have gotten as much lowering as specified and therefor weren't made an official product avail for the diesel powered w126's. He did say that if there are people out there who have done it and it works so be it.
So...looking up an 1985 SEL on hrspring dot com
Applications. 1985 Mercedes-Benz SEL.
Find Other Applications
Suspension
Stage Chassis /
Drivetrain Notes Approx. Front
Lowering Approx. Rear
Lowering Part Number Sug. Retail
Photo Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 29559 $ 429.00 Kit Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/ self-leveling 1.4 1.2 52759 $ 429.00 Kit Touring Cup Kit W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 31559T-1 $ 995.00 Kit
So it's CONCIEVEABLE - altho NOT DEFINITE that you MIGHT be able to use these springs / shocks in a 300SD, the non-self leveling of course.
And that the pricing we get here on PP is good
What a gamble to take....
Anyone done it?
Whats best solution? Bilstiens and Lesjofers?
-1982 300SD, found out she has an '85 Engine, unknown mileage, redoing the top end and chain, head has been ported and polished, non EGR manifolds / non ARV turbo
-1982 300D, too many issues to list.
-Alt Fuel Buff
-Founder www.SWFLBenzCLub.com
SpecialDelivery
11-21-2012, 12:39 PM #12I've been posting on another site about this ... rather than a link...here's the latest...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Reiner
From my 1986 W126 supplementary manual:
Front springs:
126.035 <(420SEL - 3604 lbs OR 1635 kg) & 126.125 <(300SDL - 3649 lbs OR 1655 kg) - 126 321 17 04 <(same p# as the 300SD - 3625 lbs OR 1644 kg, so the spring for a 420SEL should work just fine.)
126.039 <(560SEL - 4090 lbs OR 1859kg ) & 126.045 <(560SEC - 3880 lbs OR 1759 kg) - 126 321 18 04 <(heavier car, by 200 lbs...so a heavier spring?)
Rear springs:v
126.035 <(420SEL) & 126.125 <(300SDL) - 116 324 08 04 or 116 324 11 04
126.039 <(560SEL) & 126.045 - 115 324 27 04 or 123 324 06 04
Note...I did call H&R they put me thru to a tech, he said the kit we're talking about has been around for 20+ years...he didn't know why they weren't "approved" for the diesels...said they either never tested them on the diesels or they DID and there was some other reason like because of the weight difference, they might not have gotten as much lowering as specified and therefor weren't made an official product avail for the diesel powered w126's. He did say that if there are people out there who have done it and it works so be it.
So...looking up an 1985 SEL on hrspring dot com
Applications. 1985 Mercedes-Benz SEL.
Find Other Applications
Suspension
Stage Chassis /
Drivetrain Notes Approx. Front
Lowering Approx. Rear
Lowering Part Number Sug. Retail
Photo Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 29559 $ 429.00 Kit Sport Spring W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/ self-leveling 1.4 1.2 52759 $ 429.00 Kit Touring Cup Kit W126 6 cyl, V8, not diesel w/o self-leveling 1.4 1.4 31559T-1 $ 995.00 Kit
So it's CONCIEVEABLE - altho NOT DEFINITE that you MIGHT be able to use these springs / shocks in a 300SD, the non-self leveling of course.
And that the pricing we get here on PP is good
What a gamble to take....
Anyone done it?
Whats best solution? Bilstiens and Lesjofers?
-1982 300SD, found out she has an '85 Engine, unknown mileage, redoing the top end and chain, head has been ported and polished, non EGR manifolds / non ARV turbo
-1982 300D, too many issues to list.
-Alt Fuel Buff
-Founder www.SWFLBenzCLub.com
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