Post Vogtland rear tire toe-in...
Post Vogtland rear tire toe-in...
the toe-in was even worse prior to the drop spring install casue my stock spring were totally shot...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-22-2009, 01:36 PM #1So after finally finishing up my suspension rehab this weekend, Istill have a bit of toe in on the rear tires... with the vogtland springs and 3 nub spacers it still seems to sit a little low, although I have a bunch of tools/parts/etc in the trunk right now. I have replaced the subframe mounts and bushings between the trailing/LCA and subframe and the swaybay links. I think the low stance is whats causing the tires to toe-in a little, is there anything else that I should check/replace? I am thinking about making another spacer to put above the coil spring shims, but don't wanna do that if theres an easier/better fix.
the toe-in was even worse prior to the drop spring install casue my stock spring were totally shot...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
Did you replace the shocks? They will left the car a bit. I still had rear rake which I corrected by lopping 1/2 off the front. You start getting into scary land when you are past 3 nubs. Spring can get unseated.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
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2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
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1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
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oel_brenner
06-22-2009, 07:26 PM #3pics ?
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
still gotta drag the camera from the boat to the street... maybe do that tomorrow as well
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-23-2009, 12:22 AM #4yeah.. it seems even lower today.. I think its just overloaded...I installed new bilstein HDs when I had everything apart... Ill try to drop off a bunch of crap at my storage unit tomorrow to see if that helps
still gotta drag the camera from the boat to the street... maybe do that tomorrow as well
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
oh and it was toed-out, not toe-in...musta been delirious when I was thinkin about it before
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-25-2009, 02:36 AM #5soooo...still no pics(actually a few on my cell phone, but cant find the fakken cable or micro SD adaper to get em onto the machine)... I did unload a ton of crap outta the trunk into my storage unit and it got a lot better... Ill try to take out some tools here in a few days to see if that makes it even better...
oh and it was toed-out, not toe-in...musta been delirious when I was thinkin about it before
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
KTA-Cummins
02-01-2010, 03:04 PM #6When you all say toed in or out on the rear do you actually mean camber? My Grey W123 sits low in the back and it is showing negative camber and eating the insides off the tires much faster than the outsides. My car is always hauling tools and parts and is fairly heavy in the back. I am trying to find info from Lesjofors on the spring rates of their HD spring for the W123. I am hopeing it would raise the back end to fix my camber problem and stiffen up the hadleing some for better handleing.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/sls-...457-2.html
you wont be disappointed, especially with the increased trunk load. you can see a good pic of the ride height (with a shit-ton of tools and 'supplies/spares' in the trunk) in my car profile (post #24):
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/83-300d-t-366.html
and apparently (per a late note in the first thread linked above) there will soon be a stateside supplier for the springs which is good as a guy (FloridaCyclist) had trouble getting a hold of them from the UK supplier that GreasyBeast and I got them from.
one other note: I am currently running no spacers, but I think the 1 'nub' spacers would fit fairly well(I couldn't quite jam the 3 nubbers in there...at least w/o a compressor) and they should still settle out to a comparable height.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
SurfRodder
02-03-2010, 06:00 AM #7yeah...that's what i meant... that's what happens when you're an insomniac and write posts in the wee hours...or at work after lunch the day after (as it were)... I had the same issue you describe (and same cause too) If you go with the S600 springs from this thread:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/sls-...457-2.html
you wont be disappointed, especially with the increased trunk load. you can see a good pic of the ride height (with a shit-ton of tools and 'supplies/spares' in the trunk) in my car profile (post #24):
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/83-300d-t-366.html
and apparently (per a late note in the first thread linked above) there will soon be a stateside supplier for the springs which is good as a guy (FloridaCyclist) had trouble getting a hold of them from the UK supplier that GreasyBeast and I got them from.
one other note: I am currently running no spacers, but I think the 1 'nub' spacers would fit fairly well(I couldn't quite jam the 3 nubbers in there...at least w/o a compressor) and they should still settle out to a comparable height.
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
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