4 wheel drive?
4 wheel drive?
05-10-2012, 02:51 AM
#1
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-10-2012, 02:51 AM #1I'm just curious, has anybody else ever wondered what these cars (w123 specifically) would be like if one could somehow manage to set one up with 4 wheel drive? I personally think it would be pretty sweet, since with oversized tires and stiffer suspension I'm sure one could go pretty much anywhere, well almost anywhere.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-10-2012, 10:06 AM
#2
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
Considering the custom fabrication involved, Modified G-class stuff $$$$ or 4-Matic Modified Stuff $$$$. I bet I could get my wagon almost anywhere a awd car could go with my current ride height. I've driven my various cars out in the desert & the woods many times. A truck on the other hand no.. I do like 4-wheel burnouts though..
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
05-10-2012, 10:19 AM
#3
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
05-10-2012, 10:19 AM #3How did you change up your ride height on your w123 wagon kozuka?
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
05-10-2012, 10:52 AM
#4
I used to drive a lowered car all up and down county dirt roads too not really off-roading though.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
Deleted the automatic (-200lbs), installed progskins SLS delete. That's made my ride height pretty high but somehow even, the rear seems to be caster'd abit. Seems like you could get more of a lift in the front on an automatic with w116 springs. They would have to be cut if you didn't want the pre-runner lifted front end. I think that a normal w123 would get a nice lift from w116 springs all around for off-road adventures. Still recommend that oil pan guard, too many engines lost to damaged oil pans, lowest damn point on the car.
I used to drive a lowered car all up and down county dirt roads too not really off-roading though.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
05-10-2012, 10:57 AM
#5
Back to the 4x4 or all wheel drive. I would kill for my w126 to be all wheel drive.
This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 11:01 AM by serverman777.
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
serverman777
05-10-2012, 10:57 AM #5Hmmm... ideas are spring to mind...
Back to the 4x4 or all wheel drive. I would kill for my w126 to be all wheel drive.
'84 300 SD w126 Race Car
'86 190E 2.3 w201 Daily Driver
'85 500 SEL w126 Scraped
'92 1.6 Geo Storm Totaled by a Uninsured Driver
05-10-2012, 12:02 PM
#6
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
05-10-2012, 12:02 PM #6The 300te 4matic Is 4X4 I wonder if the om603/om606 would fit in one????
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
05-10-2012, 12:40 PM
#7
I've seen several examples of that type floating around the 'net in the past.
Looks pretty cool. Definitely not for the purest.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
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DeliveryValve
05-10-2012, 12:40 PM #7Probably the easiest way is to get a Toyota, Ford, or Chevy small truck 4x4 frame and bolt the w123 on top of that.
I've seen several examples of that type floating around the 'net in the past.
Looks pretty cool. Definitely not for the purest.
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
05-10-2012, 01:52 PM
#8
You stop posting online and get your damn w/m setup working that's how!!
This post was last modified: 05-10-2012, 01:52 PM by Simpler=Better.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-10-2012, 01:52 PM #8
You stop posting online and get your damn w/m setup working that's how!!
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-10-2012, 02:16 PM
#9
(05-10-2012, 01:52 PM)Simpler=Better You stop posting online and get your damn w/m setup working that's how!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!
I've been busy with school these past couple weeks, since the end of the semester is near. I have everything needed for the W/M setup (finally, it took a whole day to just find a place that had the correct sized tap for the injector nozzle 
), and the first weekend I don't have school (finals are next week) I plan on installing it, along with the egr-less manifolds, and pyrometer. If this weekend wasn't mother's day I might get it done, but that doesn't seem like something I can really shirk off 
. Also been too busy trying not to fail ALL of my classes lol, although I'm pretty sure that is going to be the case with physicsI've also been busy collecting parts for another project, but I'll post about that stuff when the time comes.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-10-2012, 02:16 PM #9(05-10-2012, 01:52 PM)Simpler=Better You stop posting online and get your damn w/m setup working that's how!!
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!
I've been busy with school these past couple weeks, since the end of the semester is near. I have everything needed for the W/M setup (finally, it took a whole day to just find a place that had the correct sized tap for the injector nozzle ), and the first weekend I don't have school (finals are next week) I plan on installing it, along with the egr-less manifolds, and pyrometer. If this weekend wasn't mother's day I might get it done, but that doesn't seem like something I can really shirk off . Also been too busy trying not to fail ALL of my classes lol, although I'm pretty sure that is going to be the case with physicsI've also been busy collecting parts for another project, but I'll post about that stuff when the time comes.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-10-2012, 02:18 PM
#10
(05-10-2012, 12:02 PM)willbhere4u The 300te 4matic Is 4X4 I wonder if the om603/om606 would fit in one????
More then likely the front subframe is different on a 4-matic car rather then a normal w124 along with a number of other things like hubs mounting for the transfer case, oil pan, the list goes on and on. For a w124 the full-oem conversion could be possible but for the w123 since there was no oem awd
its going to be like re-inventing the wheel.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
(05-10-2012, 12:02 PM)willbhere4u The 300te 4matic Is 4X4 I wonder if the om603/om606 would fit in one????
More then likely the front subframe is different on a 4-matic car rather then a normal w124 along with a number of other things like hubs mounting for the transfer case, oil pan, the list goes on and on. For a w124 the full-oem conversion could be possible but for the w123 since there was no oem awd
its going to be like re-inventing the wheel.
1983 300TD : 4 Speed : SLS Delete : More. Daily Deathcab
1987 190E/16v/OM603 : 5 Speed : SLS Delete : Lots More..W201 Project
05-10-2012, 05:17 PM
#11
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...ost5187042
It's pretty different from a regular 124 even, some pics here:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...ost5187042
05-11-2012, 02:44 AM
#12
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-11-2012, 02:44 AM #12Oh well one can dream I guess, lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-16-2012, 10:02 AM
#13
(05-11-2012, 02:44 AM)sassparilla_kid Oh well one can dream I guess, lol
Rip the drivetrain out of an older audi quattro and adapt.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-16-2012, 02:56 PM
#14
(05-16-2012, 10:02 AM)dropnosky Rip the drivetrain out of an older audi quattro and adapt.
That would be sweeeeetttt!!!!!!! The resulting car would be able to go from city driving to off road driving and then jump into a rally lol. Now if only I had money to tackle such a project.....
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-16-2012, 02:56 PM #14(05-16-2012, 10:02 AM)dropnosky Rip the drivetrain out of an older audi quattro and adapt.
That would be sweeeeetttt!!!!!!! The resulting car would be able to go from city driving to off road driving and then jump into a rally lol. Now if only I had money to tackle such a project.....
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-18-2012, 10:07 PM
#15
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-18-2012, 10:07 PM #15The W123 is VERY capable off road.... http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/thread-1513.html
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-18-2012, 11:55 PM
#16
This post was last modified: 05-18-2012, 11:55 PM by sassparilla_kid.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-18-2012, 11:55 PM #16Bitchin' thread, I need to properly re-route my veg lines so they're not hanging down under the car, so that I can do that sort of crazy shit lol. Hmmmm, Maybe after I get new tires, I can get an extra set of some cheap steel 15"-ers with some knobby oversized tires for off road fun lol
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-21-2012, 01:33 AM
#17
I have Firestone Destination A/T's on my 300. Grip for daysssssss
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-21-2012, 01:33 AM #17
I have Firestone Destination A/T's on my 300. Grip for daysssssss
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-21-2012, 03:24 PM
#18
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This post was last modified: 05-21-2012, 04:13 PM by DeliveryValve.
Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
DeliveryValve
05-21-2012, 03:24 PM #18Cap's the poster dude for off roading stock w123's!
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Gota love Mercedes Diesels!
.
05-21-2012, 04:14 PM
#19
(05-16-2012, 02:56 PM)sassparilla_kid(05-16-2012, 10:02 AM)dropnosky Rip the drivetrain out of an older audi quattro and adapt.
That would be sweeeeetttt!!!!!!! The resulting car would be able to go from city driving to off road driving and then jump into a rally lol. Now if only I had money to tackle such a project.....
theres one near me for 600 bucks, an 84 quattro. Supposedly those have a push button locking rear diff. Waffling, its a heap, but the guy says engine ran, 4 wheel drive worked, and I could use that 2.2.
We will see, the quattro stuff could be fun to play with.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(05-16-2012, 02:56 PM)sassparilla_kid(05-16-2012, 10:02 AM)dropnosky Rip the drivetrain out of an older audi quattro and adapt.
That would be sweeeeetttt!!!!!!! The resulting car would be able to go from city driving to off road driving and then jump into a rally lol. Now if only I had money to tackle such a project.....
theres one near me for 600 bucks, an 84 quattro. Supposedly those have a push button locking rear diff. Waffling, its a heap, but the guy says engine ran, 4 wheel drive worked, and I could use that 2.2.
We will see, the quattro stuff could be fun to play with.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-21-2012, 06:39 PM
#20
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-21-2012, 06:39 PM #20Too bad I live on the complete opposite side of the country, and that I don't have money, because I would be all over that deal!
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
05-21-2012, 10:43 PM
#21
(05-21-2012, 03:24 PM)DeliveryValve Cap's the poster dude for off roading stock w123's!
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1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
05-21-2012, 10:43 PM #21(05-21-2012, 03:24 PM)DeliveryValve Cap's the poster dude for off roading stock w123's!
.
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
05-21-2012, 11:39 PM
#22
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
05-21-2012, 11:39 PM #22Hahahaa, well, after I get an a/w IC set up then I'll try tackling offroad
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
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