Real #'s
Real #'s
06-26-2009, 07:52 PM
#2
The highest dyno proven number I've seen is 145hp with a Myna pump and the stock turbo.
ForcedInduction
06-26-2009, 07:52 PM
#2
The wagon was a failure. It never raced, just that burnout video.
The highest dyno proven number I've seen is 145hp with a Myna pump and the stock turbo.
06-26-2009, 10:04 PM
#4
Of course, that much money and work will build a proven (and much more efficient) 500+hp from an OM606.
In other words; if you just want some extra giddyup for your daily driver, the 617 is fine. If you want real power, you need to get a 606 or a CDI.
This post was last modified: 06-26-2009, 10:04 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
06-26-2009, 10:04 PM
#4
With ~$800 you can get around 180hp (M-Pump and 6mm E300 elements), this is the point I'm nearing right now. ~$4000 (in parts, not counting labor) with a Myna pump, bigger turbo, intercooler and modified transmission guts you could hit 250hp. Put ~$8,000 into the above plus huge turbo (maybe compounds), huge intercooler, custom rods, custom pistons, stronger crank, copper head gasket, head porting and maybe bigger valves and you might be the first in the world to touch 400hp with a 617.
Of course, that much money and work will build a proven (and much more efficient) 500+hp from an OM606.
In other words; if you just want some extra giddyup for your daily driver, the 617 is fine. If you want real power, you need to get a 606 or a CDI.
06-26-2009, 10:39 PM
#6
I would like to see what a 617 can do but I do agree with F.I. that a 606 is the beast but I think a 603 could make good power too, I am going to put my efforts into the 617 for now but if I can't get her to make about 220 hp than I just step up to the 6 cyl's.
06-27-2009, 04:49 AM
#7
722.0 (W3A040)- 290lb/ft
722.1 (W4B020 or W4B025)- 145/180lb/ft
722.2 (W4B025)- 180lb/ft
722.3 (W4A040)- 290lb/ft
722.4 (W4A020)- 145lb/ft
722.5 (W5A030)- 216lb/ft
722.6 (W5A580)- 578lb/ft
http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Application.htm
ForcedInduction
06-27-2009, 04:49 AM
#7
The transmission is a big limiter of power.
722.0 (W3A040)- 290lb/ft
722.1 (W4B020 or W4B025)- 145/180lb/ft
722.2 (W4B025)- 180lb/ft
722.3 (W4A040)- 290lb/ft
722.4 (W4A020)- 145lb/ft
722.5 (W5A030)- 216lb/ft
722.6 (W5A580)- 578lb/ft
http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Application.htm
06-27-2009, 12:28 PM
#8
(06-27-2009, 04:49 AM)ForcedInduction The transmission is a big limiter of power.Hey more great info!
722.0 (W3A040)- 290lb/ft
722.1 (W4B020 or W4B025)- 145/180lb/ft
722.2 (W4B025)- 180lb/ft
722.3 (W4A040)- 290lb/ft
722.4 (W4A020)- 145lb/ft
722.5 (W5A030)- 216lb/ft
722.6 (W5A580)- 578lb/ft
http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Application.htm
I'm happy now to have a spare, I will see how much my 722.315 will take but if it becomes a problem that I will have to make a change like a stick or adapt an american automatic.
This post was last modified: 06-27-2009, 12:30 PM by Motorhead.
(06-27-2009, 04:49 AM)ForcedInduction The transmission is a big limiter of power.Hey more great info!
722.0 (W3A040)- 290lb/ft
722.1 (W4B020 or W4B025)- 145/180lb/ft
722.2 (W4B025)- 180lb/ft
722.3 (W4A040)- 290lb/ft
722.4 (W4A020)- 145lb/ft
722.5 (W5A030)- 216lb/ft
722.6 (W5A580)- 578lb/ft
http://www.europeantransmissions.com/Application.htm
I'm happy now to have a spare, I will see how much my 722.315 will take but if it becomes a problem that I will have to make a change like a stick or adapt an american automatic.
06-27-2009, 01:49 PM
#9
GREASY_BEAST
06-27-2009, 01:49 PM #9not to beat a dead horse but it seems like a toyota 5spd is a pretty simple swap.
06-27-2009, 04:21 PM
#11
I just shot a reverse gear out the side of my dads 1980 240d 4spd trans and had two drive it to my shop using a very noisy 2nd 3rd and 4th gear 1st and reverse just made grinding noise and all of the fluid leaked out
we bought the car for $500 because they said the clutch was bad? but apparently it got stuck in two gears that didn't do it any good we put a new tranny in and shifter bushings and all is good now! but I don't want to destroy one in my 617 turbo car
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
06-27-2009, 04:21 PM #11What kind of power will the 4spd Manuel handle? before we twist it up internally?
I just shot a reverse gear out the side of my dads 1980 240d 4spd trans and had two drive it to my shop using a very noisy 2nd 3rd and 4th gear 1st and reverse just made grinding noise and all of the fluid leaked out
we bought the car for $500 because they said the clutch was bad? but apparently it got stuck in two gears that didn't do it any good we put a new tranny in and shifter bushings and all is good now! but I don't want to destroy one in my 617 turbo car
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
06-27-2009, 05:05 PM
#12
FYI- using Redline MTL made shifting much worse in the old one. The new one has been using Mobil1 synthetic ATF from day 1.
This post was last modified: 06-27-2009, 05:07 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
06-27-2009, 05:05 PM
#12
They and the clutch can easily handle the 250lb/ft @ 1800rpm my engine puts out with the VNT turbo. The only reason I changed transmissions is I got a killer deal on a newly rebuilt one ($300). My old one would grind into 2nd and 3rd if I tried to shift fast or above 2500rpm but otherwise worked very well for having 218k miles.
FYI- using Redline MTL made shifting much worse in the old one. The new one has been using Mobil1 synthetic ATF from day 1.
06-29-2009, 10:56 PM
#13
If I had a 606 that put out 350+ HP than I might use a 700R4 or an AOD, my trans in my CD is bad but after the donner swop Art Carr said he would do some nice things to it. I have the shift kit for it and I will put in a fresh converter with the install, it would not be a bad thing to have a pissed off diesel eat a stock trans.
06-30-2009, 10:05 AM
#14
(06-26-2009, 10:04 PM)ForcedInduction ~$4000 (in parts, not counting labor) with a Myna pumpWoah. Where did you get this number from. Last I heard it was 1200 euros.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
06-30-2009, 10:16 AM
#15
(06-30-2009, 10:05 AM)winmutt Woah. Where did you get this number from. Last I heard it was 1200 euros.
Thats for everything. Myna pump, custom tranny rebuild (722.6 guts), turbo, intercooler, brakes, 15" wheels, tires (Gotta be able to stop fast if you're driving fast), exhaust, misc parts (tubes, hardware, fluids), etc.
This post was last modified: 06-30-2009, 10:16 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
06-30-2009, 10:16 AM
#15
(06-30-2009, 10:05 AM)winmutt Woah. Where did you get this number from. Last I heard it was 1200 euros.
Thats for everything. Myna pump, custom tranny rebuild (722.6 guts), turbo, intercooler, brakes, 15" wheels, tires (Gotta be able to stop fast if you're driving fast), exhaust, misc parts (tubes, hardware, fluids), etc.
07-01-2009, 02:58 AM
#17
(06-30-2009, 06:42 PM)benztek So we are talking 1200 euros for the myna pump!About 1500 when all is said and done for 2-way shipping, import taxes and a core m-pump.
Quote:What size elements are in that pump?7mm.
Quote:What external adjustments are a part of it?They add an ALDA and an external full load adjustment screw.
Quote:Do you have to send them an M pump to start with?Yes, they need something to build with.
ForcedInduction
07-01-2009, 02:58 AM
#17
(06-30-2009, 06:42 PM)benztek So we are talking 1200 euros for the myna pump!About 1500 when all is said and done for 2-way shipping, import taxes and a core m-pump.
Quote:What size elements are in that pump?7mm.
Quote:What external adjustments are a part of it?They add an ALDA and an external full load adjustment screw.
Quote:Do you have to send them an M pump to start with?Yes, they need something to build with.
07-01-2009, 09:09 AM
#18
(07-01-2009, 02:58 AM)ForcedInduction About 1500 when all is said and done for 2-way shipping, import taxes and a core m-pump.
Do you happen to know what it would cost to just replace the elements? I've got an electronic OM606 pump on the way. After that is working reliably I'll want to upgrade to the 7mm elements... With the electronic governor they shouldn't need anywhere near as much bench time.
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(07-01-2009, 02:58 AM)ForcedInduction About 1500 when all is said and done for 2-way shipping, import taxes and a core m-pump.
Do you happen to know what it would cost to just replace the elements? I've got an electronic OM606 pump on the way. After that is working reliably I'll want to upgrade to the 7mm elements... With the electronic governor they shouldn't need anywhere near as much bench time.
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
07-01-2009, 03:42 PM
#20
(07-01-2009, 09:09 AM)Tymbrymi Do you happen to know what it would cost to just replace the elements?
45euro each is what somebody quoted last year.
ForcedInduction
07-01-2009, 03:42 PM
#20
(07-01-2009, 09:09 AM)Tymbrymi Do you happen to know what it would cost to just replace the elements?
45euro each is what somebody quoted last year.
07-01-2009, 03:53 PM
#21
(07-01-2009, 03:42 PM)ForcedInduction 45euro each is what somebody quoted last year.
Hopefully the bench time to install/calibrate just the elements won't be all that much. I'll be spending enough of my money on fabricating the turbo manifolds and doing the electronics!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(07-01-2009, 03:42 PM)ForcedInduction 45euro each is what somebody quoted last year.
Hopefully the bench time to install/calibrate just the elements won't be all that much. I'll be spending enough of my money on fabricating the turbo manifolds and doing the electronics!
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
07-01-2009, 04:54 PM
#22
ForcedInduction
07-01-2009, 04:54 PM
#22
I believe they do a lot more than swap elements and calibrate. I know they add an ALDA for the 61x engines, add the external load screw and I've heard they do a custom grind of the cam.
07-01-2009, 06:21 PM
#23
(07-01-2009, 04:54 PM)ForcedInduction I believe they do a lot more than swap elements and calibrate. I know they add an ALDA for the 61x engines, add the external load screw and I've heard they do a custom grind of the cam.I hope they wouldn't add an external load screw to my electronic 606 pump!
In all seriousness, I imagine a very large portion of the time rebuilding the older pumps is spent calibrating the governor.
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
(07-01-2009, 04:54 PM)ForcedInduction I believe they do a lot more than swap elements and calibrate. I know they add an ALDA for the 61x engines, add the external load screw and I've heard they do a custom grind of the cam.I hope they wouldn't add an external load screw to my electronic 606 pump!
In all seriousness, I imagine a very large portion of the time rebuilding the older pumps is spent calibrating the governor.
John Robbins
'05 E320 CDI - 118k - Faaaaaast!!
'87 300TD - 317k - Cracked head... but an OM606 is on the way!
'79 300SD - 295k - Bad engine = project car!
07-01-2009, 07:24 PM
#24
Contact them and let us know.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/myna...t-242.html
ForcedInduction
07-01-2009, 07:24 PM
#24
I don't know if they would do the electronic ones. All the superturbo 606's I've ever seen used a mechanical pump.
Contact them and let us know.
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/myna...t-242.html
07-01-2009, 09:28 PM
#25
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
I want to find the Audi 5cyl rotary pump. Plenty of upgrades for that line. and from what I have seen it has the same driveinterface.
1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
07-02-2009, 05:03 PM
#26
(07-01-2009, 09:28 PM)winmutt I want to find the Audi 5cyl rotary pump. Plenty of upgrades for that line. and from what I have seen it has the same driveinterface.Is the Audi pump for a diesel or do the bosch mechanical F/I pumps work the same way as diesel I/P's do, who has the best pumps so far?
07-04-2009, 02:02 PM
#31
(07-04-2009, 11:09 AM)Motorhead It looks like it is cog belt driven, it would not be a bad install.
Ah, I see now. Runs right off the timing belt. Sure, won't be a bad install as long as it clears the damn block on the back side. Could make a spacer to ensure that it clears the lip on the bottom, as long as it doesn't interfere with the oil cooler lines.. I guess you could give it its own cog and belt and hang it out from the block if it doesn't fit. Simple 2-bearing block, ball bearings, and an oil seal, run the IP oil return straight to the oil pan. Things are pretty tight around the IP on the 617.
GREASY_BEAST
07-04-2009, 02:02 PM #31(07-04-2009, 11:09 AM)Motorhead It looks like it is cog belt driven, it would not be a bad install.
Ah, I see now. Runs right off the timing belt. Sure, won't be a bad install as long as it clears the damn block on the back side. Could make a spacer to ensure that it clears the lip on the bottom, as long as it doesn't interfere with the oil cooler lines.. I guess you could give it its own cog and belt and hang it out from the block if it doesn't fit. Simple 2-bearing block, ball bearings, and an oil seal, run the IP oil return straight to the oil pan. Things are pretty tight around the IP on the 617.
07-04-2009, 03:09 PM
#32
This post was last modified: 07-04-2009, 03:09 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
07-04-2009, 03:09 PM
#32
All you have to do is put the spline snout on the shaft and bolt it up. I dislike rotary pumps though, I wouldn't do it.
07-04-2009, 11:23 PM
#33
(07-04-2009, 03:09 PM)ForcedInduction I dislike rotary pumps though, I wouldn't do it.
What causes your dislike?
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@
Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
Telecommbrkr
07-04-2009, 11:23 PM #33(07-04-2009, 03:09 PM)ForcedInduction I dislike rotary pumps though, I wouldn't do it.
What causes your dislike?
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@ Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
ForcedInduction
07-05-2009, 12:22 AM
#34
Personal preference. I've always seen inline pumps as the better pumps.
07-05-2009, 12:51 AM
#35
I am just curious about these pumps, and if it would be an option that would allow easier tunability, plus the fact that there is an aftermarket parts availability for them.
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@ Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
Telecommbrkr
07-05-2009, 12:51 AM #35This a gut feeling, or do you think mechanically that the rotary is a lesser unit? ie: longevity, adjustment, failure issues, etc.
I am just curious about these pumps, and if it would be an option that would allow easier tunability, plus the fact that there is an aftermarket parts availability for them.
'Jurgen' - 1982 300sd cream paint with palimino MB tex interior. Now running with new cooling system
.......discovered oil cooler has pinhole @#$%@ Nitrile gloves back on......'Otto' - 1985 300sd anthracite? grey/silver? with grey leather interior. (heated front seats!!!!
) Euro headlightsMods are in the works...
07-05-2009, 02:54 AM
#36
(07-05-2009, 12:51 AM)Telecommbrkr This a gut feeling, or do you think mechanically that the rotary is a lesser unit? ie: longevity, adjustment, failure issues, etc.
A few things. Its lubed by fuel, it has only one plunger to pump all 5 cylinders (plunger float at high RPM?, like wheels driving over washboard) and fuel pressure is critical to its survival (too low and it can die) are what I can think of off the top of my head.
This post was last modified: 07-05-2009, 08:25 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
07-05-2009, 02:54 AM
#36
(07-05-2009, 12:51 AM)Telecommbrkr This a gut feeling, or do you think mechanically that the rotary is a lesser unit? ie: longevity, adjustment, failure issues, etc.
A few things. Its lubed by fuel, it has only one plunger to pump all 5 cylinders (plunger float at high RPM?, like wheels driving over washboard) and fuel pressure is critical to its survival (too low and it can die) are what I can think of off the top of my head.
07-05-2009, 08:27 AM
#38
(07-05-2009, 08:14 AM)dalek ForcedInduction said he would not do it.
Thats no reason NOT to do it. VO "conversions" are one thing, but when it comes to performance improvement I don't mind being proven wrong.
If that rotary pump turns out to work well, it could prove a reasonable Myna-alternative.
ForcedInduction
07-05-2009, 08:27 AM
#38
(07-05-2009, 08:14 AM)dalek ForcedInduction said he would not do it.
Thats no reason NOT to do it. VO "conversions" are one thing, but when it comes to performance improvement I don't mind being proven wrong.
If that rotary pump turns out to work well, it could prove a reasonable Myna-alternative.
07-05-2009, 08:49 AM
#39
This post was last modified: 07-05-2009, 08:52 AM by dalek.
I am not here to make waves; Sois jeune et tais toi
I am just here to lurk and maybe ask a few questions. The last thing I want to do here is to prove anyone wrong. I just thought someone would want to see the Audi pump; if that was seen as stepping on people's heads, I do apologize.
I am not here to make waves; Sois jeune et tais toi
07-05-2009, 08:59 AM
#40
(07-05-2009, 08:49 AM)dalek I just thought someone would want to see the Audi pump; if that was seen as stepping on people's heads...
Not in the least. Please post more detailed pictures if you have them, I would like to see the idea progress rather than die in the middle of a thread. This place is all about learning from each other's adventures.
ForcedInduction
07-05-2009, 08:59 AM
#40
(07-05-2009, 08:49 AM)dalek I just thought someone would want to see the Audi pump; if that was seen as stepping on people's heads...
Not in the least. Please post more detailed pictures if you have them, I would like to see the idea progress rather than die in the middle of a thread. This place is all about learning from each other's adventures.
07-05-2009, 09:12 AM
#41
ForcedInduction
07-05-2009, 09:12 AM
#41
In fact, I've moved the audi pump discussion to keep this thread on topic: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/audi...t-481.html
07-05-2009, 10:00 AM
#42
(06-30-2009, 10:16 AM)ForcedInduction custom tranny rebuild (722.6 guts)
F.I.-
I'm curious about this. Is this a gear-for-gear swap to get stronger gears or are you implying that you can get 5 speeds into the 722.3 housing?
-SG
-------------
'84 G-Wagen turbodiesel
'75 240D 4-Speed
09-16-2009, 05:24 PM
#44
(06-26-2009, 10:04 PM)ForcedInduction With ~$800 you can get around 180hp (M-Pump and 6mm E300 elements), this is the point I'm nearing right now. ~$4000 (in parts, not counting labor) with a Myna pump, bigger turbo, intercooler and modified transmission guts you could hit 250hp.
Does Myna sell the turbo, and intercooler as well? I am wondering which turbo one would use to hit the 250 hp mark (and intercooler). I am guessing with 250 hp it would be pushing close to 400 ft lb of torque? I am a lot more interested in the torque numbers. In fact 200 hp with mid ~350 ft lb of torque would do the job for me.... but I would not complain with an extra 50 hp.
larryratcliff
09-16-2009, 05:24 PM #44(06-26-2009, 10:04 PM)ForcedInduction With ~$800 you can get around 180hp (M-Pump and 6mm E300 elements), this is the point I'm nearing right now. ~$4000 (in parts, not counting labor) with a Myna pump, bigger turbo, intercooler and modified transmission guts you could hit 250hp.
Does Myna sell the turbo, and intercooler as well? I am wondering which turbo one would use to hit the 250 hp mark (and intercooler). I am guessing with 250 hp it would be pushing close to 400 ft lb of torque? I am a lot more interested in the torque numbers. In fact 200 hp with mid ~350 ft lb of torque would do the job for me.... but I would not complain with an extra 50 hp.
09-16-2009, 06:21 PM
#45
ForcedInduction
09-16-2009, 06:21 PM
#45
Myna just does diesel injection. An HY35 would easily handle 250hp and not be painful as a daily driver. There are some rare GT30/GT32/GT35 VNT turbos that would provide good low end torque and flow enough for 250hp, but getting them is difficult in the USA.
09-16-2009, 10:00 PM
#46
(09-16-2009, 06:21 PM)ForcedInduction Myna just does diesel injection. An HY35 would easily handle 250hp and not be painful as a daily driver. There are some rare GT30/GT32/GT35 VNT turbos that would provide good low end torque and flow enough for 250hp, but getting them is difficult in the USA.I think I would definitely want a VNT turbo. The off idle boost they provide is amazing. I dont have a boost gauge on my jetta but I have what feels like 0 lag to me and have become spoiled.
What vehicles did those come on?
We are going to Finland for a wedding in the spring I wish it was sooner so I could drop off and pick up a pump at Myna.
Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....
This is all great information BTW thank you.
Larry
larryratcliff
09-16-2009, 10:00 PM #46(09-16-2009, 06:21 PM)ForcedInduction Myna just does diesel injection. An HY35 would easily handle 250hp and not be painful as a daily driver. There are some rare GT30/GT32/GT35 VNT turbos that would provide good low end torque and flow enough for 250hp, but getting them is difficult in the USA.I think I would definitely want a VNT turbo. The off idle boost they provide is amazing. I dont have a boost gauge on my jetta but I have what feels like 0 lag to me and have become spoiled.
What vehicles did those come on?
We are going to Finland for a wedding in the spring I wish it was sooner so I could drop off and pick up a pump at Myna.
Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....
This is all great information BTW thank you.
Larry
09-17-2009, 12:48 AM
#47
(09-16-2009, 10:00 PM)larryratcliff What vehicles did those come on?Hino engines.
Quote:Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....Aftermarket is usually the best value option. Factory intercoolers for small displacement g@ssers flow poorly, usually less than 250cfm before restriction gets into a multiple psi drop across the core. The RX-7 intercooler is a decent one though.
This post was last modified: 09-17-2009, 12:48 AM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-17-2009, 12:48 AM
#47
(09-16-2009, 10:00 PM)larryratcliff What vehicles did those come on?Hino engines.
Quote:Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....Aftermarket is usually the best value option. Factory intercoolers for small displacement g@ssers flow poorly, usually less than 250cfm before restriction gets into a multiple psi drop across the core. The RX-7 intercooler is a decent one though.
09-17-2009, 11:22 AM
#48
(09-17-2009, 12:48 AM)ForcedInduction(09-16-2009, 10:00 PM)larryratcliff What vehicles did those come on?Hino engines.
Quote:Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....Aftermarket is usually the best value option. Factory intercoolers for small displacement g@ssers flow poorly, usually less than 250cfm before restriction gets into a multiple psi drop across the core. The RX-7 intercooler is a decent one though.
Has anyone tried to make a sprinter turbo work? I was looking at various vnt turbos on Wikipedia and was thinking wow maybe it would be possible to even just go buy one of those new without breaking the bank.
Are there any preferred companies out there for the aftermarket intercoolers? Maybe one from a dodge 6bt truck might be an acceptable one?
larryratcliff
09-17-2009, 11:22 AM #48(09-17-2009, 12:48 AM)ForcedInduction(09-16-2009, 10:00 PM)larryratcliff What vehicles did those come on?Hino engines.
Quote:Are there any typical inter coolers to grab? I am thinking that grabbing one off of something like a RX7 might work ....Aftermarket is usually the best value option. Factory intercoolers for small displacement g@ssers flow poorly, usually less than 250cfm before restriction gets into a multiple psi drop across the core. The RX-7 intercooler is a decent one though.
Has anyone tried to make a sprinter turbo work? I was looking at various vnt turbos on Wikipedia and was thinking wow maybe it would be possible to even just go buy one of those new without breaking the bank.
Are there any preferred companies out there for the aftermarket intercoolers? Maybe one from a dodge 6bt truck might be an acceptable one?
09-17-2009, 12:32 PM
#49
(09-17-2009, 11:22 AM)larryratcliff Has anyone tried to make a sprinter turbo work?Its what I use.
Quote:maybe it would be possible to even just go buy one of those new without breaking the bank.New is around $900-$1200 (depending on who you get it from), used usually go around $150.
Quote:Maybe one from a dodge 6bt truck might be an acceptable one?If you want something as wide as your hood.
This post was last modified: 09-17-2009, 12:33 PM by ForcedInduction.
ForcedInduction
09-17-2009, 12:32 PM
#49
(09-17-2009, 11:22 AM)larryratcliff Has anyone tried to make a sprinter turbo work?Its what I use.
Quote:maybe it would be possible to even just go buy one of those new without breaking the bank.New is around $900-$1200 (depending on who you get it from), used usually go around $150.
Quote:Maybe one from a dodge 6bt truck might be an acceptable one?If you want something as wide as your hood.
09-17-2009, 05:47 PM
#50
341.5hp/535nm 1.8bar 617a, dynoed here locally. 7mm pump, hx40. From Mersuforum
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