CLK rims?
CLK rims?
04-23-2009, 09:25 PM
#1
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
I don't know if this is the right place for this question, but I "happen" to have access to 4 16 inch CLK rims. Is it possible to mount them to a 123? Do I need spacers? I know the offset is different, but would the wider rim make up for it?
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
04-23-2009, 10:07 PM
#2
(04-23-2009, 09:25 PM)dropnosky I don't know if this is the right place for this question, but I "happen" to have access to 4 16 inch CLK rims. Is it possible to mount them to a 123? Do I need spacers? I know the offset is different, but would the wider rim make up for it?
pretty sure you will need spacers..
I have always liked that wheel... like a modern "bundt"
if you mount them.. take a photo.. I have always been curious how they would look
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
oel_brenner
04-23-2009, 10:07 PM #2(04-23-2009, 09:25 PM)dropnosky I don't know if this is the right place for this question, but I "happen" to have access to 4 16 inch CLK rims. Is it possible to mount them to a 123? Do I need spacers? I know the offset is different, but would the wider rim make up for it?
pretty sure you will need spacers..
I have always liked that wheel... like a modern "bundt"
if you mount them.. take a photo.. I have always been curious how they would look
cars
1991 W126 350SDL turbodiesel
1987 W124 E300D turbodiesel
1987 W126 300SDL turbodiesel
1984 W107 SL300D turbodiesel
1974 W115 /8 300D diesel
trucks
2001 Dodge RAM 3500 4x4 Cummins turbodiesel
boats
1974 Uniflite "Salty Dog" powered by
2x OM617.951 Mercedes Benz 5Cyl turbodiesels
04-23-2009, 10:24 PM
#3
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
That was the same reason I liked them! Some of the classic along with modern wheel size. I will certainly post a before and after pic when and if they fit.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-02-2009, 02:24 PM
#4
However, at least with this specific 16 inch rim, there is maybe a 8th of an inch clearance between the tie rods and the edge on the front, too close for comfort, and actually no issues on the rear except that the stock wheel lugs are too long for both.
Ive ordered up 4 spacers which should alleviate both these problems.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
Well, technically, CLK rims will fit on the 123 without modifications, especially on the rear.
However, at least with this specific 16 inch rim, there is maybe a 8th of an inch clearance between the tie rods and the edge on the front, too close for comfort, and actually no issues on the rear except that the stock wheel lugs are too long for both.
Ive ordered up 4 spacers which should alleviate both these problems.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-04-2009, 07:06 PM
#6
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
I am a bit worried about clearance just in case of road debris being kicked up into the gap, possibly knocking off the wheel weights, or tearing the boot on the tie rod. Its probably just my inner wuss showing through.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-05-2009, 12:05 PM
#7
from the tire and the steering knuckle. I have had this setup on for almost ten thousand miles and experienced no problems. You should be ok
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
On mine I have 255/30R19 on the front and 285/35R19 on the rear, the front has about the width of a screwdriver blade
from the tire and the steering knuckle. I have had this setup on for almost ten thousand miles and experienced no problems. You should be ok
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
05-08-2009, 07:48 PM
#8
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
Mounted them with a set of super cheap used 205/55 R16 snow tires on, which the PO reccomended as a good size, but I think I will go slightly larger when I actually put some new all season tires on it. Im pretty pleased with how it looks. Handles a little better on corners as well.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
05-11-2009, 07:22 AM
#9
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
Those look good on there.
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
07-09-2009, 10:29 AM
#11
This post was last modified: 07-09-2009, 10:30 AM by JB3.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
Have to take em off until I have the cash for some all season tires. These wide soft snow tires are KILLING the fuel economy on this car. Its unbelievable. My old tires are tall, thin, and have 20% tread life left. The closer to bald, the better the fuel economy.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
07-09-2009, 11:51 PM
#12
(07-09-2009, 10:29 AM)dropnosky Have to take em off until I have the cash for some all season tires. These wide soft snow tires are KILLING the fuel economy on this car. Its unbelievable. My old tires are tall, thin, and have 20% tread life left. The closer to bald, the better the fuel economy.
i really like these wheels. I used 5MM hubcentric spacers since the stock alloy ligs were to long and will wreck your ebrake. I have 215/50/16's on em which fit with no rubbing, even with the 1"lower.
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GileadGarage
07-09-2009, 11:51 PM #12(07-09-2009, 10:29 AM)dropnosky Have to take em off until I have the cash for some all season tires. These wide soft snow tires are KILLING the fuel economy on this car. Its unbelievable. My old tires are tall, thin, and have 20% tread life left. The closer to bald, the better the fuel economy.
i really like these wheels. I used 5MM hubcentric spacers since the stock alloy ligs were to long and will wreck your ebrake. I have 215/50/16's on em which fit with no rubbing, even with the 1"lower.
07-10-2009, 05:20 PM
#14
(07-10-2009, 08:21 AM)dropnosky I like that size tire! Looks good on the wagon.
thanks, I was not sure what to get but I'm happy w/ 215's. Apparently 225's fit ok too. I'm happy with the coil chop, went w/ 1 coil. Rides/handles great, like a different car since I rebuilt the frontend/brakes. I'm entering it in a hillclimb race just for fun since there is an alt fuel class at this event.
Your car looks nice, amazing for 350K! I did the 2:88 as well, what a nice upgrade for the highway!
GileadGarage
07-10-2009, 05:20 PM #14(07-10-2009, 08:21 AM)dropnosky I like that size tire! Looks good on the wagon.
thanks, I was not sure what to get but I'm happy w/ 215's. Apparently 225's fit ok too. I'm happy with the coil chop, went w/ 1 coil. Rides/handles great, like a different car since I rebuilt the frontend/brakes. I'm entering it in a hillclimb race just for fun since there is an alt fuel class at this event.
Your car looks nice, amazing for 350K! I did the 2:88 as well, what a nice upgrade for the highway!
08-19-2009, 11:32 PM
#15
I used a double-beam balance medical scale, so it should be pretty accurate.
And the verdict is...
14.0 lb !!
Has anyone else weighed these wheels? If so, let us know what your results were.
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
I had always heard rumors of these wheels being pretty lightweight so before mounting them up tomorrow, I figured I would weigh one.
I used a double-beam balance medical scale, so it should be pretty accurate.
And the verdict is...
14.0 lb !!
Has anyone else weighed these wheels? If so, let us know what your results were.
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
08-20-2009, 11:40 AM
#16
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
08-20-2009, 11:40 AM #16bigger question what did the stock alloys weigh? vs the stock steelies w hub caps vs new 16" alloys
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
08-20-2009, 11:20 PM
#17
I mounted them up at work this evening where I have access to a VERY accurate, calibrated, digital scale. (Used for weighing fuel in fuel economy testing)
CLK 16x7: 14.2xx lb
stock 14" Bundt: 13.8xx lb
(The scale read out to three decimals, but I can't remember them.)
I figured the Bundt would be fairly light due to its small size, but I didn't think it would be lighter than the CLK wheel!
Since I was swapping tires off of a set of 02 C230 Kompressor, dual 5 spoke wheels onto my CLK wheels, I took the opportunity to weight them as well.
C230 Kompressor 16x7 dual 5 spoke: 18.3xx lb
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
Funny you should ask that!
I mounted them up at work this evening where I have access to a VERY accurate, calibrated, digital scale. (Used for weighing fuel in fuel economy testing)
CLK 16x7: 14.2xx lb
stock 14" Bundt: 13.8xx lb
(The scale read out to three decimals, but I can't remember them.)
I figured the Bundt would be fairly light due to its small size, but I didn't think it would be lighter than the CLK wheel!
Since I was swapping tires off of a set of 02 C230 Kompressor, dual 5 spoke wheels onto my CLK wheels, I took the opportunity to weight them as well.
C230 Kompressor 16x7 dual 5 spoke: 18.3xx lb
-Brian
1983 300TD
1982 240D
1981 280TE
jughead
Unregistered
10-20-2009, 09:31 AM
#18
(07-09-2009, 11:51 PM)GileadGarage(07-09-2009, 10:29 AM)dropnosky Have to take em off until I have the cash for some all season tires. These wide soft snow tires are KILLING the fuel economy on this car. Its unbelievable. My old tires are tall, thin, and have 20% tread life left. The closer to bald, the better the fuel economy.
i really like these wheels. I used 5MM hubcentric spacers since the stock alloy ligs were to long and will wreck your ebrake. I have 215/50/16's on em which fit with no rubbing, even with the 1"lower.
I got the same wheels for my 82 300sd. Will 5mm spacers work for me as well?
jughead
10-20-2009, 09:31 AM #18(07-09-2009, 11:51 PM)GileadGarage(07-09-2009, 10:29 AM)dropnosky Have to take em off until I have the cash for some all season tires. These wide soft snow tires are KILLING the fuel economy on this car. Its unbelievable. My old tires are tall, thin, and have 20% tread life left. The closer to bald, the better the fuel economy.
i really like these wheels. I used 5MM hubcentric spacers since the stock alloy ligs were to long and will wreck your ebrake. I have 215/50/16's on em which fit with no rubbing, even with the 1"lower.
I got the same wheels for my 82 300sd. Will 5mm spacers work for me as well?
biobenz617
Unregistered
11-29-2009, 03:14 PM
#19
I tried 10mm hubcentric H&R spacers on my CLK rims, but the spacers don't fit on the front due to the hub sticking out so far. I ended up using 25mm spacers, but still had to mill out the insides of the hubcentric extension. I tore up one of my tires on the fender lip because they stick out so far up front now. The 25mm spacers look awesome in the rear though and fit great! I have Vogtland lowering springs.
biobenz617
11-29-2009, 03:14 PM #19What about spacers on the front? Did you use 5mm up there too? How did they fit?
I tried 10mm hubcentric H&R spacers on my CLK rims, but the spacers don't fit on the front due to the hub sticking out so far. I ended up using 25mm spacers, but still had to mill out the insides of the hubcentric extension. I tore up one of my tires on the fender lip because they stick out so far up front now. The 25mm spacers look awesome in the rear though and fit great! I have Vogtland lowering springs.
12-19-2009, 07:31 PM
#21
We don't have those in sunny California. It was 80 degrees today.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
Rudolf_Diesel
12-19-2009, 07:31 PM #21A little off topic, but WTF are snow tires We don't have those in sunny California. It was 80 degrees today.
1982 300SD: 304,xxx Super M-pump with 7.5mm elements, 265 Nozzles, GT35 water cooled turbo, M90 Supercharger, A/W Intercooler, Serpentine drive belt, 3" SS exhaust with Magnaflow muffler, 240 breather, AEM dry Filter, Manual Boost Control, EGT / Boost / EMP gauges....Moved on to other projects
1995 F-350 7.3L PSD: 230,xxx 6.0 IC, DIY Stage 1 Injectors, 17* hpop, Tony Wildman Chip, John Wood Trans, 6.4L TC, 3" down pipe, 4" straight exhaust, 310 HP on wheel dyno - 8500# dually: 0-60 in 6.98
Suzuki Samurai: VW 1.9L TD, Trackick doubler transfer case (made by me) 5.8:1 transfer case gears, YJ springs front and rear with rear missing links, wheel base extended 14", diffs welded, some day a VNT.
12-20-2009, 04:35 PM
#22
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
its like a really soft compound tire, kind of like driving on pencil erasers. Ya when I moved from Wisconsin to Mississippi I got some puzzled looks when I was talking about snow tires.
1979 450SEL 6.9 - stock
1960 220SE
111 tube chassis car/undergoing full restoration. Body work in progress. Merging with a 1996 S500 (119 engine, 722.6 trans, and both subframes)
2005 S55 AMG - stock
1999 SLK230 Kompressor - stock
2006 SLK55 AMG - stock
10-25-2010, 11:59 AM
#23
(12-19-2009, 05:08 PM)Jtn190D Would these fit on my 190d?
yes!
and they look goodhttp://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/my-8...l#pid19723
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(12-19-2009, 05:08 PM)Jtn190D Would these fit on my 190d?
yes!
and they look goodhttp://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/my-8...l#pid19723
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
11-07-2010, 11:25 PM
#24
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
mike-81-240d
11-07-2010, 11:25 PM #24Hey drop you should put these CLK's on your new turbo d.
1981 Mercedes 300TD Lowered 4 speed manual Holset HX30
09-10-2011, 01:19 PM
#25
John 3:16; John 14:6
'83 300CD 115,XXX miles lowered
'06 Dodge 3500 Cummins modded
'82 Yamaha 465 Enduro Street Legal
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Joe Reitman
09-10-2011, 01:19 PM #25I am having trouble finding hubcentric spacers for my 300cd. any suggestions?
John 3:16; John 14:6
'83 300CD 115,XXX miles lowered
'06 Dodge 3500 Cummins modded
'82 Yamaha 465 Enduro Street Legal
09-12-2011, 05:08 PM
#27
John 3:16; John 14:6
'83 300CD 115,XXX miles lowered
'06 Dodge 3500 Cummins modded
'82 Yamaha 465 Enduro Street Legal
Joe Reitman
09-12-2011, 05:08 PM #27Thanks.
John 3:16; John 14:6
'83 300CD 115,XXX miles lowered
'06 Dodge 3500 Cummins modded
'82 Yamaha 465 Enduro Street Legal
12-28-2011, 04:56 AM
#29
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
Captain America
12-28-2011, 04:56 AM #29Lower a Lot!
1982 300D Turbo ... 3,6xxlbs, No fan, No AC, Hood Stack, No ALDA, No rear bumper and stuffed front, A/W Intercooled, Injectors by Greezer and HUGE Pre-Chambers with help from OM616 & Simpler=Better, Fuel Cranked up, 60 Trim Compressor wheel, EGT, EMP, Boost 50" Rigid Radius bar on roof Aux tank for a total of 48 Gal Of Diesel! Odyssey PC-1750 Battery in trunk, 27"x8.5"/R14 Maxxis BigHorn Mud Terrains, In June '14 issue of Off Road Mag
AX15 Jeep Trans swap in progress....
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