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om606 head

om606 head

 
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martureo
GTA2056V

92
01-04-2013, 03:02 PM #1
My wife's 95 E300 has one broken gp and a gouged head due to the PO trying to drill it out. Recently it's been showing some worrying headgasket issues.

There's a 606 head from a 97 for sale on Peachparts. I wanna grab it, but he says one gp is stuck in the head.

Two questions.

1) Will it work on my 606 n/a?

2) It is worth the time to send it to a machine shop to remove the gp? (on the 97 head)

1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)
martureo
01-04-2013, 03:02 PM #1

My wife's 95 E300 has one broken gp and a gouged head due to the PO trying to drill it out. Recently it's been showing some worrying headgasket issues.

There's a 606 head from a 97 for sale on Peachparts. I wanna grab it, but he says one gp is stuck in the head.

Two questions.

1) Will it work on my 606 n/a?

2) It is worth the time to send it to a machine shop to remove the gp? (on the 97 head)


1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)

Austincarnut
Holset

298
01-04-2013, 08:14 PM #2
glow plugs really aren't too hard to remove... as long as you don't break a drill bit or tap or do anything stupid, any mercedes benz dealer usually has a broken glow plug extractor kit as an A or B tool. they are brainless to figure and you use minimal tools. I can suggest a dealer in the NE but kinda far from you. You don't have to pull the head to remove the gp. save your money and fix it yourself! can you post or send pics of your head? its really not too hard.


(01-04-2013, 03:02 PM)martureo My wife's 95 E300 has one broken gp and a gouged head due to the PO trying to drill it out. Recently it's been showing some worrying headgasket issues.

There's a 606 head from a 97 for sale on Peachparts. I wanna grab it, but he says one gp is stuck in the head.

Two questions.

1) Will it work on my 606 n/a?

2) It is worth the time to send it to a machine shop to remove the gp? (on the 97 head)
Austincarnut
01-04-2013, 08:14 PM #2

glow plugs really aren't too hard to remove... as long as you don't break a drill bit or tap or do anything stupid, any mercedes benz dealer usually has a broken glow plug extractor kit as an A or B tool. they are brainless to figure and you use minimal tools. I can suggest a dealer in the NE but kinda far from you. You don't have to pull the head to remove the gp. save your money and fix it yourself! can you post or send pics of your head? its really not too hard.


(01-04-2013, 03:02 PM)martureo My wife's 95 E300 has one broken gp and a gouged head due to the PO trying to drill it out. Recently it's been showing some worrying headgasket issues.

There's a 606 head from a 97 for sale on Peachparts. I wanna grab it, but he says one gp is stuck in the head.

Two questions.

1) Will it work on my 606 n/a?

2) It is worth the time to send it to a machine shop to remove the gp? (on the 97 head)

martureo
GTA2056V

92
01-06-2013, 09:21 AM #3
The PO allowed the drill to walk into the head and probably destroyed a good bit of the threads. i, and a few pwople smarter than me fear that if we somehow remove the gp that a new one wont seal or thread properly

That is why I'm looking at the 97 head for sale

Doesanyone know if I can swap the heads?

1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)
martureo
01-06-2013, 09:21 AM #3

The PO allowed the drill to walk into the head and probably destroyed a good bit of the threads. i, and a few pwople smarter than me fear that if we somehow remove the gp that a new one wont seal or thread properly

That is why I'm looking at the 97 head for sale

Doesanyone know if I can swap the heads?


1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)

hannes_s
K26-2

25
01-06-2013, 01:17 PM #4
Part codes on 100 and 130kW engines are different but the head itself is the same (OK, almost). Quite many use N/A heads on turbo versions because they are sometimes easyer to find.
Invisible cracks are comman on these cylinder heads, so buying a "new" cylinder head for your engine because of a brockern glow plug is not a good idea.
I recomend you to try pulling the old glow plug out, but jes some special tools are needed.....google. Glow plug sealing is far from thread (~30mm), so if you did injure[/quote] your thread a bit it will seal anyway.
hannes_s
01-06-2013, 01:17 PM #4

Part codes on 100 and 130kW engines are different but the head itself is the same (OK, almost). Quite many use N/A heads on turbo versions because they are sometimes easyer to find.
Invisible cracks are comman on these cylinder heads, so buying a "new" cylinder head for your engine because of a brockern glow plug is not a good idea.
I recomend you to try pulling the old glow plug out, but jes some special tools are needed.....google. Glow plug sealing is far from thread (~30mm), so if you did injure[/quote] your thread a bit it will seal anyway.

pmj4147
T04R + TD06

42
01-07-2013, 10:38 AM #5
i heard the heads are same.
i think it's fine

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2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
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2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
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pmj4147
01-07-2013, 10:38 AM #5

i heard the heads are same.
i think it's fine


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2002. 09 Ssangyong Musso SUT
OM662STP + 7.5mm + TD06-25G with customized 84mm compressor(2.4Bar)
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2002. 12 Ssangyong Korando
OM662LA 2.9ltr + RS191 5.5mm stock
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martureo
GTA2056V

92
01-07-2013, 04:44 PM #6
Can anyone confirm that the heads are exchangeable?

To be clear, I am taking a head from a 97 E300 Turbodiesel and putting it on a 95 E300 n/a.

This is just the head, I am planning on using the same valves, etc. No valvetrain swap. No accessories swap.

Anybody have any pictures that might aid in this?

1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)
martureo
01-07-2013, 04:44 PM #6

Can anyone confirm that the heads are exchangeable?

To be clear, I am taking a head from a 97 E300 Turbodiesel and putting it on a 95 E300 n/a.

This is just the head, I am planning on using the same valves, etc. No valvetrain swap. No accessories swap.

Anybody have any pictures that might aid in this?


1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)

sassparilla_kid
diesel > all other fuels

1,618
01-07-2013, 09:38 PM #7
Why not just get the stuck plug out, then just clean the threads up very carefully with a tap? Also, I've heard of kitsthat allow you to drill out the hole to a larger size and re-tap it, then screw in another set of threads, not sure if that's an option or not

-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
01-07-2013, 09:38 PM #7

Why not just get the stuck plug out, then just clean the threads up very carefully with a tap? Also, I've heard of kitsthat allow you to drill out the hole to a larger size and re-tap it, then screw in another set of threads, not sure if that's an option or not


-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!

martureo
GTA2056V

92
01-08-2013, 08:52 AM #8
(01-07-2013, 09:38 PM)sassparilla_kid Why not just get the stuck plug out, then just clean the threads up very carefully with a tap? Also, I've heard of kitsthat allow you to drill out the hole to a larger size and re-tap it, then screw in another set of threads, not sure if that's an option or not
I'd rather go with a head I know isn't screwed up.

I can also spend the time needed on the head original head if I have another to swap out.

No garage, no driveway to park a car more than a day (my in-laws), and no head experience and very tight on money.

A newer head with no damage, a happy wife whose car doesn't shake on startup, and less than 2 grand to pinch.

Plenty of reasons to go with the new head.

Yes, it will bolt up. I talked with "Mike" from Metric Motors. He confirmed the head can be used but the valve stems on the turbo are larger.

So, yes. Head can be swapped, but original n/a valves cannot be used on turbo head.
This post was last modified: 01-08-2013, 08:53 AM by martureo.

1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)
martureo
01-08-2013, 08:52 AM #8

(01-07-2013, 09:38 PM)sassparilla_kid Why not just get the stuck plug out, then just clean the threads up very carefully with a tap? Also, I've heard of kitsthat allow you to drill out the hole to a larger size and re-tap it, then screw in another set of threads, not sure if that's an option or not
I'd rather go with a head I know isn't screwed up.

I can also spend the time needed on the head original head if I have another to swap out.

No garage, no driveway to park a car more than a day (my in-laws), and no head experience and very tight on money.

A newer head with no damage, a happy wife whose car doesn't shake on startup, and less than 2 grand to pinch.

Plenty of reasons to go with the new head.

Yes, it will bolt up. I talked with "Mike" from Metric Motors. He confirmed the head can be used but the valve stems on the turbo are larger.

So, yes. Head can be swapped, but original n/a valves cannot be used on turbo head.


1983 300TD
1984 300D
1995 E300 (sold)

 
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