useless gauges/switches
useless gauges/switches
02-06-2013, 03:07 PM
#1
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-06-2013, 03:07 PM #1I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-06-2013, 03:14 PM
#2
I would like a vacuum gauage to see how much vacuum I am pulling off the pump and if it is really holding after shut down.
Oil tempature gauge
Outside tempature guage
Trans oil tempature guage
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
I woud like to know how much juice my altenator is kicking out and how much I am using.
I would like a vacuum gauage to see how much vacuum I am pulling off the pump and if it is really holding after shut down.
Oil tempature gauge
Outside tempature guage
Trans oil tempature guage
Ninth Year Anniversary with STD on 1-9-2020
visit: www.dieselfuelinjector.guru
Project 2018: Really get the car finished -- Turbo OM617 greater than 175 MPH goal.
RED W123 - left Germany as 240D in 1982. Full AMG body kit less rear apron, 2:65LSD, five speed Getrag 717.400, manual steering, read leather interior, manual brake conversion, electric water pump (EWP), and a bunch of other goodies ...
02-06-2013, 03:21 PM
#3
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-06-2013, 03:21 PM #3Those sound like good additions, I also think a switch connected to a simple open/closed solenoid valve on the fuel supply line would be a fairly simple anti theft measure
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-06-2013, 03:26 PM
#4
Air charge temp (x2 if you intercool)
Outside air temp
Oil temp
Boost pressure/ intake vac
Exhaust pressure
Exhaust temp
Trans Temp
Rear diff temp
Voltage
Amps through the alt
Vac pump vacuum
Fuel pressure post filter pre IP
Methanol circuit pressure
For overkill, AC high/low side gauges or at least a dummy light when the compressor kicks in.
Switches:
Aux lighting front
Aux lighting rear
Town/country horn
Boost controller
Subwoofer on/off
Methanol pump on
Methanol solenoid open/close
Exhaust cutout switch/ cable pull
Cable pull or button for shutdown(manual turbo timer/ run in the store real quick system)
Manual glow button (or summer/winter glow switch)
WVO
econd aux pumpWVO lift pump
WVO valves (2x)
Edit: I like the antitheft....unhooking the linkage works great too
This post was last modified: 02-06-2013, 03:28 PM by Simpler=Better.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-06-2013, 03:26 PM #4Okay kids here we go: (stealing some from you Greazzer)
Air charge temp (x2 if you intercool)
Outside air temp
Oil temp
Boost pressure/ intake vac
Exhaust pressure
Exhaust temp
Trans Temp
Rear diff temp
Voltage
Amps through the alt
Vac pump vacuum
Fuel pressure post filter pre IP
Methanol circuit pressure
For overkill, AC high/low side gauges or at least a dummy light when the compressor kicks in.
Switches:
Aux lighting front
Aux lighting rear
Town/country horn
Boost controller
Subwoofer on/off
Methanol pump on
Methanol solenoid open/close
Exhaust cutout switch/ cable pull
Cable pull or button for shutdown(manual turbo timer/ run in the store real quick system)
Manual glow button (or summer/winter glow switch)
WVOecond aux pump
WVO lift pump
WVO valves (2x)
Edit: I like the antitheft....unhooking the linkage works great too
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
02-06-2013, 03:41 PM
#5
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-06-2013, 03:41 PM #5Okay that is a shit tonne of stuff, now where do I find mini gauges so I can fit half of it in the car?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-06-2013, 03:50 PM
#6
I read about ir beam switches...stick your finger in a hole to break the red and turn it on (the car) keep it secret so your girlfriend doesn't know.
Also magnetic switch mount it in a secret spot behind but adjacent to dash. When starting wave magnet in front of switch to complete the circuit. I like that idea.
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
lgreeley83
02-06-2013, 03:50 PM #6For anti theft...
I read about ir beam switches...stick your finger in a hole to break the red and turn it on (the car) keep it secret so your girlfriend doesn't know.
Also magnetic switch mount it in a secret spot behind but adjacent to dash. When starting wave magnet in front of switch to complete the circuit. I like that idea.
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
02-06-2013, 04:29 PM
#7
(02-06-2013, 03:50 PM)lgreeley83 For anti theft...
I read about ir beam switches...stick your finger in a hole to break the red and turn it on (the car) keep it secret so your girlfriend doesn't know.
Also magnetic switch mount it in a secret spot behind but adjacent to dash. When starting wave magnet in front of switch to complete the circuit. I like that idea.
What's a girlfriend? You mean one of those things that puts an end to pretty much everything manly and fun, and then spends all the money you didn't even have in the first place?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
02-06-2013, 04:29 PM #7(02-06-2013, 03:50 PM)lgreeley83 For anti theft...
I read about ir beam switches...stick your finger in a hole to break the red and turn it on (the car) keep it secret so your girlfriend doesn't know.
Also magnetic switch mount it in a secret spot behind but adjacent to dash. When starting wave magnet in front of switch to complete the circuit. I like that idea.
What's a girlfriend? You mean one of those things that puts an end to pretty much everything manly and fun, and then spends all the money you didn't even have in the first place?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
02-06-2013, 05:18 PM
#8
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
lgreeley83
02-06-2013, 05:18 PM #8Lol. My innuendo was pretty good though me thinks.
" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."
02-06-2013, 05:38 PM
#9
fordheaded
02-06-2013, 05:38 PM #9Search "egauges", they've got all sizes and manufactures in one site. Real good price and even gauge pods! No affiliation by the way. Ed
02-07-2013, 10:53 AM
#10
(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
This post was last modified: 02-07-2013, 10:55 AM by JB3.
Attached Files
Image(s)1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Attached Files
Image(s)1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
02-07-2013, 12:14 PM
#11
(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Thats so rediculous, Its awesome!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Thats so rediculous, Its awesome!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
02-07-2013, 12:49 PM
#12
(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Those center vents are looking lonely....
Don't forget the climate control can be shaved down a bit to fit another row of 3.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-07-2013, 12:49 PM #12(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Those center vents are looking lonely....
Don't forget the climate control can be shaved down a bit to fit another row of 3.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
02-07-2013, 06:08 PM
#13
(02-07-2013, 12:14 PM)MFSuper90 Thats so rediculous, Its awesome!
too bad I sold that car. Was awesome while I had it, most of the gauges were to a VO system that had twin tanks.
EGT
Lift Pump Pressure
Boost
Fuel system restriction/pressure gauge
Fuel tank level 1
fuel tank level 2
Fuel supply temp
Fuel return temp
(02-07-2013, 12:49 PM)Simpler=Better(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Those center vents are looking lonely....
Don't forget the climate control can be shaved down a bit to fit another row of 3.
yeah, but those center vents were the only ones giving out any heat.
Also, I considered the climate control, shaving that down would be a bear and a half. That sucker is a huge block. I did consider trying to move a simple VW or Nissan lever action control box over though. Lost interest in going through the work though, but they are just about the right width to fit perfectly and open up a ton of space
This post was last modified: 02-07-2013, 06:10 PM by JB3.
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
(02-07-2013, 12:14 PM)MFSuper90 Thats so rediculous, Its awesome!
too bad I sold that car. Was awesome while I had it, most of the gauges were to a VO system that had twin tanks.
EGT
Lift Pump Pressure
Boost
Fuel system restriction/pressure gauge
Fuel tank level 1
fuel tank level 2
Fuel supply temp
Fuel return temp
(02-07-2013, 12:49 PM)Simpler=Better(02-07-2013, 10:53 AM)JB3(02-06-2013, 03:07 PM)sassparilla_kid I've been thinking about adding some more unnecessary gauges and switches and stuff to my w123 and the only things I can really come up with right now are an ammeter and possibly an attitude indicator (artificial horizon), so what other things could I add? I think if I could get it to just be on the verge of being ridiculous that would be cool
you have lots of room!
My personal record is two on the column, two where the ashtray was, and 4 on the A pillar. You could get way more on the column if you went with a different steering wheel I think, a linear one where you could see further around the column.
here you can watch em all lit up like a christmas tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzAzX9hp_gI
Those center vents are looking lonely....
Don't forget the climate control can be shaved down a bit to fit another row of 3.
yeah, but those center vents were the only ones giving out any heat.
Also, I considered the climate control, shaving that down would be a bear and a half. That sucker is a huge block. I did consider trying to move a simple VW or Nissan lever action control box over though. Lost interest in going through the work though, but they are just about the right width to fit perfectly and open up a ton of space
1974 240D 617 turbo swap, W201 5-speed, in the works project
1983 240D 616 stock, DD
1989 Chevy Astro, 617 turbo swap, T5 5-speed, 4.56 diff, work van
03-19-2013, 03:22 PM
#14
I've been looking on the VDO site and they have some combination gauges that I bet one could use.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
03-19-2013, 03:22 PM #14Anybody know of anybody redesigning the instrument cluster or anything to fit more gauges in there? I think it would be easier to look at if everything was in one place.
I've been looking on the VDO site and they have some combination gauges that I bet one could use.
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
03-19-2013, 04:57 PM
#15
Something like this
This post was last modified: 03-19-2013, 05:16 PM by led-panzer.
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
led-panzer
03-19-2013, 04:57 PM #15When I do my next w123 I planned on completely redoing the instrument cluster, like taking a piece of .125 aluminum annodized black and laying out the speedo, tach, boost, oil pressure, pyro, ect ect. Making everything the same set of autometer or isspro gauges. Shouldn't be terribly hard just a bit expensive.
Something like this
1984 300D 4-speed ~200,000 miles
7.5mm M-pump, GT3582 turbo, F-Tune Performance intake/exhaust manifolds, A/A intercooler, 315 nozzles, Enlarged prechambers, Bosch 044 feed pump, Custom lightweight flywheel with 240mm clutch, Lowered, 17" AMG rims - 300 hp OM617 project
1985 300D 280,000 miles RIP
2001 F350 7.3 DP tuner, 4"exhaust, S&B intake
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