TheDon's OM606 build
TheDon's OM606 build
Here it is, my official OM606 build thread.
Here it is, my 606 thats going to eventually go into my W124.
It has 1 stuck glow plug which I am not too worried about. I'd rather have 5 that I can remove than 1 broken.
Plan of action is to get it running with a 603 pump and all stock running gear and eventually go super turbo.
I will be sticking with my automatic transmission, unless I come across a 5 speed and then I will do that swap as well.
I have sold off the injection pump that was on it and will be getting a 603 pump soon. If my source pulls through it might be a pump from a 3.5L 603.
Plan of action is as follows
Swap 603 pump
Swap 603 oil pan and oil pump pick up or get a V8 sway bar and install that so the oil pan clears
Rewire the glow plug harness so it works with the early W124 style glow plug clips
Figure out how to get the throttle linkage to work
Figure out where to put the coolant reservoir overflow line
Vacuum lines and etc
Coolant hoses for the heater core
AC compressor, do I swap it or not?
fabricate exhaust
Swap spin on fuel filter housing with one from a 603, maybe?
There might be more but right now my main goal is to get the engine running out of the car.
I think I will have to some how connect the oil cooler lines to the input/output so oil isn't spewing everywhere. As well as warming the plugs and how to power the starter.
Other than that It's going to be fun. I'm sure if I was in finland I would have had this thing running and in the car last week!
(12-16-2012, 02:08 PM)TheDon It has 1 stuck glow plug which I am not too worried about. I'd rather have 5 that I can remove than 1 broken.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(12-16-2012, 02:08 PM)TheDon It has 1 stuck glow plug which I am not too worried about. I'd rather have 5 that I can remove than 1 broken.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
No, you need a BENZ-O-MATIC!!!!!
Pawn shop might have a cheap ignition-less torch head, they're a dime a dozen
I'd use whatever size heater hose works for a short test
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I called my dealership contact about a 606 NA throttle linkage assembly and he can get it for me. The entire thing is around $258 but thats every nut and bolt and ball joint and linkage. I just need the three main pieces and If I can get a few detailed shots of the linkage I can most likely get the nuts and bolts I need from my stash or the junkyard. As well as any linkage I may need.
This is one of the key issues to getting the 606 to work in my W124. I saw another project where the guy took an NA linkage and modified it to mount to the turbo intake and cut out the web on the intake so the linkages would fit.
After that its a matter of determening if the bowden cable is long enough (I hope) and mounting it up!
My writte off w124 606na will be back with me from the insurance assessors next week. I will take some pictures of the linkage, it's dead simple you know.
My car is RHD.
Hansebanger77 made this video of his throttle linkage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUeRgrKgxM
Take lots of pics of what you do.
(01-11-2013, 11:44 PM)Bangaway Hansebanger77 made this video of his throttle linkage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUeRgrKgxM
Take lots of pics of what you do.
(01-11-2013, 11:44 PM)Bangaway Hansebanger77 made this video of his throttle linkage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUeRgrKgxM
Take lots of pics of what you do.
While I wait for my pump and to save up to do more to the engine I decided to clean it
Before
After
Cleaned it with some oven cleaner and degreaser. Trick is to spray the oven cleaner on and let it sit for 10 seconds then wipe it off and hit it with degreaser/water to kill the oven cleaner. Worked great on the block too
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Convert to cable driven and just make a bracket. That's my plan for my 617-I lost most of my crap in my move.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(01-15-2013, 10:41 PM)TheDon The 124 already is cable driven. The issue is throttling the pump and controlling the transmission Bowden cable. If I had a 6 speed laying around it would be cake! But I'm slowly hunting for a manual to stick behind the thing.
(01-15-2013, 10:41 PM)TheDon The 124 already is cable driven. The issue is throttling the pump and controlling the transmission Bowden cable. If I had a 6 speed laying around it would be cake! But I'm slowly hunting for a manual to stick behind the thing.
So I got in touch with another dealership and they claim they can get me the part that is missing. They quoted me at $270 for the entire linkage in the diagram, which I do not need since a majority of it is linkages I already have and misc nuts and bolts I have. So I'll shoot them my part numbers I want and hopefully get the entire linkage setup I need.
I just got an email confirming delivery of my injection pump too, but it went to my previous address which is 5 miles down the road.. awesome!
I decided just to get a complete 606NA with the pump, throttle, manifold, oil filter housing... Will the 606NA oil fliter housing work instead of the 603 oil filter housing? I figure after I search for all these parts and ship them, it would be easier to buy a 606NA and take the parts I need. That's the idea. Now I have two 606s on the way. Christmas twice. My garage is already full of too much stuff. Anybody need a 606NA long block...oh in about 2 months?
hey
do you already have a v8 swaybar ?
and will you keep the stock turbo first ?
isnt it better tho stick with manuel first because im planning tho use
the 722 also but dont want tho mess it up before i got the chance tho reinforce it
and a five speed is way cheaper
tho mess up :p
The 400E at my junkyard was scrapped before I got to it. I need a V8 sway bar, i am on the hunt. I am going to stick with the stock turbo first.
It is very hard finding a manual here in the US to bolt up to the engine, especially on my budget.
I got my pump into today.. I opened it up to this
The seller used straw as a damn packing material.. STRAW!!! The ALDA is damaged beyond any form of repair and there is probably straw in the delivery valves and who knows what else happened to the pump while it knocked around in sub standard packing. I'm pissed. I haven't even bothered to lament on how my allergies are now bothering the crap out of me because I wasn't prepared for a box of friggin straw!!!!!!!!!!!
Freshly picked from the injection pump patch......And I seemed to have scratched the round thing on the front of the pump, which I have no idea what it is.... I hope it doesn't leak.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
File a claim for a refund. A new ALDA is what, $300?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Well, in the meantime start polishing it. If you IP doesn't have a mirror finish you're doing it wrong
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Straw... lol He must have been a farmer
Hell, I'm a farmer and even though we have extra straw laying around, I wouldn't use it as a packing material!!
nope, still searching for an NA linkage. side note, I need to find a good site to host photos, photobucket and facebook are not exactly the best.
I havent even tested my engine yet. I need a 603 fuel filter housing and something to connect the oil cooler lines together before I can
(02-12-2013, 01:25 PM)TheDon nope, still searching for an NA linkage. side note, I need to find a good site to host photos, photobucket and facebook are not exactly the best...
(02-12-2013, 01:25 PM)TheDon nope, still searching for an NA linkage. side note, I need to find a good site to host photos, photobucket and facebook are not exactly the best...
www.abload.de ;-)
(02-12-2013, 05:30 PM)JustPassinThruStill waiting for pictures of the linkage. The guy says its from a '93 606 but I'm certain we didn't get the 606 until 95. But we shall see(02-12-2013, 01:25 PM)TheDon nope, still searching for an NA linkage. side note, I need to find a good site to host photos, photobucket and facebook are not exactly the best...
Didn't you just buy an NA linkage over on PP?
I use tinypic.com
Can't upload a batch of pics at once though, only one at a time, and it makes you type in a Captcha challenge phrase for each one. But tinypic is reliable.
(02-12-2013, 05:30 PM)JustPassinThruStill waiting for pictures of the linkage. The guy says its from a '93 606 but I'm certain we didn't get the 606 until 95. But we shall see(02-12-2013, 01:25 PM)TheDon nope, still searching for an NA linkage. side note, I need to find a good site to host photos, photobucket and facebook are not exactly the best...
Didn't you just buy an NA linkage over on PP?
I use tinypic.com
Can't upload a batch of pics at once though, only one at a time, and it makes you type in a Captcha challenge phrase for each one. But tinypic is reliable.
603 pump installed!
I hope I did it correctly. I lined the pump up to the gear (didn't have the timing basket in place because I do not feel like pulling my vac pump out of my 603 to get the tool and fight with the gasket) and put the center bolt in to pull it into its splines. Then I put the mounting bolts on and put it on loose. Then I used the turnbuckle to line up the hard lines and bolted the pump on then the hard lines.
I did lock the pump with the tool on the bench before installing.
Hopefully Tomorrow I can find some hose at the hose supply house to connect the oil cooler lines together so I can run it once I get the fuel lines. It's slowly but surely coming together.
I also need to get a new charger for my camera so I can use that instead of my iPhone.
(02-14-2013, 08:18 AM)Druk(02-14-2013, 07:56 AM)TheDon I locked the pump prior to installing it.......
Got that, but then you said you'd used the turnbuckle to align the hardlines before finally tightnening up the bolts? Would that have not changed the pump timing?
(02-14-2013, 08:18 AM)Druk(02-14-2013, 07:56 AM)TheDon I locked the pump prior to installing it.......
Got that, but then you said you'd used the turnbuckle to align the hardlines before finally tightnening up the bolts? Would that have not changed the pump timing?
Well, I am going with the 603 oil cooler lines once its in my car.
I'm talking about connected them together for running the engine outside of the car without an oil cooler.
Also, whats the story on your fuel lines. Looks like you've got 606 and 603 stuff there.
Got any more pics of your engine compartment? It looks like your oil cooler lines wouldn't interfere with the intake manifold.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Well, I am going with the 603 oil cooler lines once its in my car.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Also, whats the story on your fuel lines. Looks like you've got 606 and 603 stuff there.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Got any more pics of your engine compartment? It looks like your oil cooler lines wouldn't interfere with the intake manifold.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Well, I am going with the 603 oil cooler lines once its in my car.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Also, whats the story on your fuel lines. Looks like you've got 606 and 603 stuff there.
(02-14-2013, 06:19 PM)TheDon Got any more pics of your engine compartment? It looks like your oil cooler lines wouldn't interfere with the intake manifold.
I was looking at my girlfriends W123 today and noticed that the oil cooler lines are very similar to the 606's lines. Check the parts prices at the yard, $12 for an oil cooler. I think I'll just nab the w123's oil cooler and lines and take them home. I'll make it work!
I also removed the injection pump and reinstalled it. Before removal I put the engine at 15 degrees as specified in the manual, removed the pump. I was having an issue with the tool locking to the pin so I made the slot a little bit wider so it would catch(it worked fine on the 606 electronic pump) and then it was locked. Reinstalled and its fine.
Turned the engine over by hand and nothing binds, ive got a ton of compression for sure, and all of the timing marks line up for the pump.
(02-16-2013, 11:09 AM)TheDon I was looking at my girlfriends W123 today and noticed that the oil cooler lines are very similar to the 606's lines. Check the parts prices at the yard, $12 for an oil cooler. I think I'll just nab the w123's oil cooler and lines and take them home. I'll make it work!
(02-16-2013, 11:09 AM)TheDon I was looking at my girlfriends W123 today and noticed that the oil cooler lines are very similar to the 606's lines. Check the parts prices at the yard, $12 for an oil cooler. I think I'll just nab the w123's oil cooler and lines and take them home. I'll make it work!
(02-16-2013, 11:58 AM)Druk(02-16-2013, 11:09 AM)TheDon I was looking at my girlfriends W123 today and noticed that the oil cooler lines are very similar to the 606's lines. Check the parts prices at the yard, $12 for an oil cooler. I think I'll just nab the w123's oil cooler and lines and take them home. I'll make it work!
I think it's the same same cooler as in my pic above? If so, be careful of the union into the cooler cos they're ally and fusion welded and after a while the weld can get brittle so when you put strain on the line nut to undo it fractures off the cooler. Ask me how I know that?
(02-16-2013, 11:58 AM)Druk(02-16-2013, 11:09 AM)TheDon I was looking at my girlfriends W123 today and noticed that the oil cooler lines are very similar to the 606's lines. Check the parts prices at the yard, $12 for an oil cooler. I think I'll just nab the w123's oil cooler and lines and take them home. I'll make it work!
I think it's the same same cooler as in my pic above? If so, be careful of the union into the cooler cos they're ally and fusion welded and after a while the weld can get brittle so when you put strain on the line nut to undo it fractures off the cooler. Ask me how I know that?
(02-10-2013, 02:53 PM)TheDon Bought another part of my project today
722.6 5 speed auto... brought it home for $137... not bad!
(02-10-2013, 02:53 PM)TheDon Bought another part of my project today
722.6 5 speed auto... brought it home for $137... not bad!