TheDon's OM606 build
TheDon's OM606 build
(02-21-2013, 09:58 PM)TheDon Wooo my R129 shifter arrived today
that is all
Without a photo, you sir are a liar!
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
02-21-2013, 11:00 PM #53(02-21-2013, 09:58 PM)TheDon Wooo my R129 shifter arrived today
that is all
Without a photo, you sir are a liar!
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
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So I think first order of business is get the 606 swapped in and then we will do the 722.6
While changing my oil today I looked at the transmission swap stuff and its not going to be a direct swap. But there will be some fitting to be done for the mount and hopefully I do not have to change the tail shaft or drive shaft.
So I think first order of business is get the 606 swapped in and then we will do the 722.6
the Denver U Pull and Pay has a 2002 C230 in their inventory. Orlando has a U Pull and Pay and I paid $117 for the transmission with torque converter and everything else I left bolted on to it. Apparently, Denver charges $99 for a transmission.. Lucky, but mine gets way more inventory in for Mercedes
Side note.. I pulled a glow plug wiring harness plug from a 617 and of course it only has 5 wires, I nabbed it for the plug and the female connectors. So I need one more so I can redo the 606 harness. Does anyone have some extras I can have?
It was out of a C230 Kompressor. Go to the drivetrain section and look at the thread on the 722.6 v2 controller by Olefejer. I posted a list of the cars the 722.6 came in. But try to get one out of a car with a straight 4/6 so the bell housing will mate to the 606. The V8's use a different pattern but you can swap the bell housings.
the Denver U Pull and Pay has a 2002 C230 in their inventory. Orlando has a U Pull and Pay and I paid $117 for the transmission with torque converter and everything else I left bolted on to it. Apparently, Denver charges $99 for a transmission.. Lucky, but mine gets way more inventory in for Mercedes
Side note.. I pulled a glow plug wiring harness plug from a 617 and of course it only has 5 wires, I nabbed it for the plug and the female connectors. So I need one more so I can redo the 606 harness. Does anyone have some extras I can have?
I think if I go with an auto but it will have to be out of a much beefer model than the C230. I thought of getting that C320 tranny. But I would like to get a tranny out of an E55. Of course that 100 price is hard to pass up. A ginny pig tranny. I have to read that thread on Olefejer. We don't get much Benzes at our yard, exept the old 300Es and 190Es. You got so lucky with that motor at your yard. I think you're going to set the record for the most frugal 606 STD....ha ha. I don't know if you saw, but I picked up a sweet '95 E300D last week.
Called the classic center and they said the 606 linkage I need is in stock... My dealer said it wasnt.. So I might be able to do the 606 throttle linkage like I want to!!!
I think the 722.6 out of the C230 will do fine since I am only aiming for 250-275 HP. Anything over 300 and I'd probably have to go grab the E430 transmission and swap bell housings. Because, ya know.. I found an E430 at the yard. But its front end is smashed in so pulling it out would be impossible so Id have to drop the transmission about 3 feet without a jack
Called the classic center and they said the 606 linkage I need is in stock... My dealer said it wasnt.. So I might be able to do the 606 throttle linkage like I want to!!!
I am so blessed with this yard dude.. You have no idea how much I love it.
-ahem- My small haul for today
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Plus a W210 throttle position sensor, W126 rear view mirror (should fit my w124). I totally forgot to get some 6 pin plugs for my euros I have coming. The 400E sway bar is a direct swap and it will give at least 5" of clearance for the 606. I might swap it in soon just to show.
Total price for todays haul.... $38. Which is a lot less than getting a 603 pan and making it work with the 606. Fun part will be interfacing the TPS so I can connect it to a linkage.
Side note, I need to get a charger for my little point and shoot camera.
The 722.6 does not have a mechanical speed output so I have to somehow use the 400E spedometer to display speed.
I am so blessed with this yard dude.. You have no idea how much I love it.
-ahem- My small haul for today
Plus a W210 throttle position sensor, W126 rear view mirror (should fit my w124). I totally forgot to get some 6 pin plugs for my euros I have coming. The 400E sway bar is a direct swap and it will give at least 5" of clearance for the 606. I might swap it in soon just to show.
Total price for todays haul.... $38. Which is a lot less than getting a 603 pan and making it work with the 606. Fun part will be interfacing the TPS so I can connect it to a linkage.
Side note, I need to get a charger for my little point and shoot camera.
I am going to swap the 606 in with the 722.4 or whatever is in it now. Which is why I was ordering the 606.910 throttle linkages. No muss, no fuss bowden cable set up and throttle control.
I only know that the 400E/E400 sway bar works. As long as its a V8 W124 the sway bar will work (again.. 4/500). Grab the cluster if its cheap. I bought the spedometer since a single gauge is $6 at my yard. I need to go back again and figure out how the spedometer works in the 400E and adapt that to my 300D when I do the 722.6
I am going to swap the 606 in with the 722.4 or whatever is in it now. Which is why I was ordering the 606.910 throttle linkages. No muss, no fuss bowden cable set up and throttle control.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-02-2013, 10:28 PM #65You can make an external speedometer pick up on the drive shaft if needed just figure out how many pulses per revolution you will need and make a pick up with a couple magnets on the drive shaft
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(03-02-2013, 10:28 PM)willbhere4u You can make an external speedometer pick up on the drive shaft if needed just figure out how many pulses per revolution you will need and make a pick up with a couple magnets on the drive shaft
It's usually four triggers -you don't need magnets, the pick-up is energised- but each head is calibrated to it's respective diff ratio so if you've pulled a speedo from a different car it will under/overread dependant on the donor ratio.
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(03-02-2013, 10:28 PM)willbhere4u You can make an external speedometer pick up on the drive shaft if needed just figure out how many pulses per revolution you will need and make a pick up with a couple magnets on the drive shaft
It's usually four triggers -you don't need magnets, the pick-up is energised- but each head is calibrated to it's respective diff ratio so if you've pulled a speedo from a different car it will under/overread dependant on the donor ratio.
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When I go with the 722.6 Ole's display can show MPH but its rather small and I would prefer to make my install look like its original.I'll drive with the small display but I would really like a speedometer so I can track fuel consumption.
the thread on peach parts has a guy putting 4 metal blocks on his drive shaft for the pick up in a W107 380SL. but again, I am going to figure out the 400E on Saturday before it gets crushed.
That's fine by me. I can figure out the difference. If I want to be super 1337 I can create some sort of program to convert the signal to one that would be correct for the dif ratio.
When I go with the 722.6 Ole's display can show MPH but its rather small and I would prefer to make my install look like its original.I'll drive with the small display but I would really like a speedometer so I can track fuel consumption.
the thread on peach parts has a guy putting 4 metal blocks on his drive shaft for the pick up in a W107 380SL. but again, I am going to figure out the 400E on Saturday before it gets crushed.
(03-03-2013, 12:50 PM)Bangaway How about pulling the tranny out of the 400E and using that. The 400E had about 300hp, so that would work. Would the 400E tranny bolt onto the 606?
That's a lot of work and its still not a 5 speed. I want the over drive and IIRC the V8 has a different bolt pattern than the OM60x/M10x series that the 722.6 can bolt to. I'm just working on getting the 606 swapped in with my current 4 speed.
I'm doing things rather German... over complicated for simple returns.
(03-03-2013, 12:50 PM)Bangaway How about pulling the tranny out of the 400E and using that. The 400E had about 300hp, so that would work. Would the 400E tranny bolt onto the 606?
That's a lot of work and its still not a 5 speed. I want the over drive and IIRC the V8 has a different bolt pattern than the OM60x/M10x series that the 722.6 can bolt to. I'm just working on getting the 606 swapped in with my current 4 speed.
I'm doing things rather German... over complicated for simple returns.
Keep us updated!
HaavardPYA
03-07-2013, 11:35 AM #70I`m looking forward to see how you will work out the speedo thing. Why will the E400 speedo work? Does the E400 have electric speedo?
Keep us updated!
As long as its a W124 car it will fit into any other W124 cluster. I just need to get the sensor for it and another person that is doing a 606 swap here in the USA has a Dakota Digital speedometer device that can change the signal to match the rear end ration stuff.
Sorry for spamming your thread. i`m going to do the 722.6 swap myself, so i`m very interested
HaavardPYA
03-07-2013, 03:21 PM #72I see. But do you get the 400 speedo to work without the speedo gear in the trans? Doesn`t the 400 have the 722.3 with mechanical speedo?
Sorry for spamming your thread. i`m going to do the 722.6 swap myself, so i`m very interested
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Speed sensor from the 400E transmission. I traced out the wiring and the sensor leads to a massive plug behind the ash tray and then smaller gauge tan and while wires go to the cluster where in the plug the tan and the second tan wire that matches with the black/purple with red dots are soldered together for the ground. The white and black/purple/red go to their respective pins on the gauge. So, looks like all I have to do is take the black/purple/red and feed it to fuse #5.
I couldn't trace the BPR wire to where ever it went. I did find a relay with a BPR wire but I'm not sure it was the same since it came from a different direction.
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Got my 603 fuel filter housing in. Mounts perfectly in place. I just need to get new copper crush washers. Plus a new crush washer for my cars oil filter housing center tube.
Anyways... slight progress.
I do plan on painting all of the bare aluminum brackets and sprucing up the engine.
Speed sensor from the 400E transmission. I traced out the wiring and the sensor leads to a massive plug behind the ash tray and then smaller gauge tan and while wires go to the cluster where in the plug the tan and the second tan wire that matches with the black/purple with red dots are soldered together for the ground. The white and black/purple/red go to their respective pins on the gauge. So, looks like all I have to do is take the black/purple/red and feed it to fuse #5.
I couldn't trace the BPR wire to where ever it went. I did find a relay with a BPR wire but I'm not sure it was the same since it came from a different direction.
Got my 603 fuel filter housing in. Mounts perfectly in place. I just need to get new copper crush washers. Plus a new crush washer for my cars oil filter housing center tube.
Anyways... slight progress.
I do plan on painting all of the bare aluminum brackets and sprucing up the engine.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...-14-a.html
Might wanna check out the 124 electrical manual:
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-c...-14-a.html
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-11-2013, 10:08 AM #78Nice!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-11-2013, 10:17 AM #79It's looking slick, but still needs a crazy convoluted custom manifold and train turbo
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
saving up now for my 606 NA linkages
I found an old Cummins at the yard today with a Holset HC1 but the compressor wheel would not spin and was covered in corrosion. I suspect it sat for a long long time. Plus all of my efforts could not loosen the bolts holding onto the thing. I should have grabbed the VDO Water temp gauge that was bolted onto the dash which I think was a makeshift post turbo pyrometer.
saving up now for my 606 NA linkages
I did pick up this rather massive turbo from my fav junkyard. I couldn't pass it up.
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(606 stock turbo for a really pathetic comparison)
It's some flavor of Garrett that I pulled off of a Detroit Diesel 6 cylinder, I wanted to nab the entire engine but I had no way of getting it home! So, its pretty damn big. It weights more than 50 lbs for sure which means I paid less than $1 a pound for it. I have no idea what to do with it other than try and ebay it or make it into a gas turbine. I doubt a 606 would ever be able to spin this thing without punching a hole in the block.
Not much progress other than I need to save money so I can get the linkages. Maybe this week I'll get some hose to connect the oil cooler lines together and try and run it
I did pick up this rather massive turbo from my fav junkyard. I couldn't pass it up.
(606 stock turbo for a really pathetic comparison)
It's some flavor of Garrett that I pulled off of a Detroit Diesel 6 cylinder, I wanted to nab the entire engine but I had no way of getting it home! So, its pretty damn big. It weights more than 50 lbs for sure which means I paid less than $1 a pound for it. I have no idea what to do with it other than try and ebay it or make it into a gas turbine. I doubt a 606 would ever be able to spin this thing without punching a hole in the block.
or corse with modifyed pump :p
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
that turbo is not that big, if you consider, BSR was using a GT4288R and other are using even bigger
or corse with modifyed pump :p
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-19-2013, 09:54 AM #84It's the perfect size for a compound set up one big one small
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(03-19-2013, 09:54 AM)willbhere4u It's the perfect size for a compound set up one big one small
If the car would be a DD, I think the GT4202 would be a little to large.
Just my opinion though
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(03-19-2013, 09:54 AM)willbhere4u It's the perfect size for a compound set up one big one small
If the car would be a DD, I think the GT4202 would be a little to large.
Just my opinion though
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
HaavardPYA
03-25-2013, 02:48 PM #87Im planning on using an gt42 plus an hx35 next year. The GT42 is not that big
You get the advantage of a little turbo off the line and a big turbo in the upper RPM's it's a win win
plus you can set them up with waste gates and set any pressure you want 20 psi from 1200-6500 RPM
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-25-2013, 04:12 PM #88With compounded twin turbo's the small turbo will spool up like normal at low rpm and the secondary large turbo takes over in the high rpm and forces more air through the little turbo. for extra pressure/flow up top in the rpm's
You get the advantage of a little turbo off the line and a big turbo in the upper RPM's it's a win win
plus you can set them up with waste gates and set any pressure you want 20 psi from 1200-6500 RPM
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(03-11-2013, 03:39 PM)TheDon saving up now for my 606 NA linkages
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Build your own, very easy
EDH_Performance
03-27-2013, 12:14 PM #89(03-11-2013, 03:39 PM)TheDon saving up now for my 606 NA linkages
Build your own, very easy
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-24-2013, 10:37 AM #92I got my last one's from rusty @ buymbparts.biz along with the O rings
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
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). And you can connect the glow plugs directly to a battery(without a rely) for 5-10 seconds, it will not start without warm glow plugs.
A few tips: remember to fill some oil in your diesel pump. Prime the diesel filter, hoses and pump with an electric pump(your starter will be glad you did). And you can connect the glow plugs directly to a battery(without a rely) for 5-10 seconds, it will not start without warm glow plugs.
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
04-25-2013, 06:17 AM #95Is that a 603 pump on the block or an electronic 606 pump?
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617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
04-25-2013, 10:32 AM #96obvious don't forget to remove the duck tape from the intake inlet!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
JustPassinThru
02-03-2014, 07:04 PM #98This thread ...abandoned?
Gone but not forgotten: two W123 sedans and two W124 wagons.
W124 1987 300TD wagon, for sale, $1000 (some assembly required).
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