w123 300d om617.952 ??
w123 300d om617.952 ??
i am new in this forum..
my english is so bad
now i have 3 autos, 73 mb 220d, 85 golf 1.8 16v gti and 89 golf 1.6 8v..
i am thinking about sell my 8v golf and buy 84 mb 300d turbo(om617.952)..
but i have questions :S
i want drifting with w123, is this car enough for drifting?
do i use which turbo?
which diesel pump and which nozzles?
how much horsepower can i have with stock internals on om617.952??
thanks..
hi all..
i am new in this forum..
my english is so bad
now i have 3 autos, 73 mb 220d, 85 golf 1.8 16v gti and 89 golf 1.6 8v..
i am thinking about sell my 8v golf and buy 84 mb 300d turbo(om617.952)..
but i have questions :S
i want drifting with w123, is this car enough for drifting?
do i use which turbo?
which diesel pump and which nozzles?
how much horsepower can i have with stock internals on om617.952??
thanks..
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-04-2013, 06:03 PM #3With a built injection pump and turbo maybe around 250hp reliably
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
I'm convinced that a custom manifold can make a difference, the stock log has a lot of sharp turns and virtually nonexistant runners.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-05-2013, 09:17 AM #5Dieselmenken is popular on the forums here, for a turbo an HY30 seems to be decent?
I'm convinced that a custom manifold can make a difference, the stock log has a lot of sharp turns and virtually nonexistant runners.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-05-2013, 12:32 PM #6I'm sure a k27 could handle that power or a smallish Holset hy30 hx30 ! I would send the stock pump out to be built by Dieselmenken! I personally would add an intercooler also and a free flowing exhaust and intake
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(03-05-2013, 12:32 PM)willbhere4u I'm sure a k27 could handle that power or a smallish Holset hy30 hx30 ! I would send the stock pump out to be built by Dieselmenken! I personally would add an intercooler also and a free flowing exhaust and intake
k27 turbo, stock pump, intercooler and free flow exhaust himmmm...
how much hp and torque can i have with this spec?
and do not do anything stock pump?
(03-05-2013, 12:32 PM)willbhere4u I'm sure a k27 could handle that power or a smallish Holset hy30 hx30 ! I would send the stock pump out to be built by Dieselmenken! I personally would add an intercooler also and a free flowing exhaust and intake
k27 turbo, stock pump, intercooler and free flow exhaust himmmm...
how much hp and torque can i have with this spec?
and do not do anything stock pump?
Another option for a power boost is spraying methanol-the only dyno chart I've seen gained 25ish HP.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
03-05-2013, 03:00 PM #8Stock injection pump, but send it to Dieselmenken and he will install and calibrate new larger elements. I don't know the exact cost but I've heard $1,000-$2,000 being tossed around. With the stock pump you max out at around 140hp/190tq
Another option for a power boost is spraying methanol-the only dyno chart I've seen gained 25ish HP.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(03-05-2013, 03:00 PM)Simpler=Better Stock injection pump, but send it to Dieselmenken and he will install and calibrate new larger elements. I don't know the exact cost but I've heard $1,000-$2,000 being tossed around. With the stock pump you max out at around 140hp/190tq
Another option for a power boost is spraying methanol-the only dyno chart I've seen gained 25ish HP.
damn :S
ok thanks..
for 220-250 hp what can i do?
is it no easy with om617.952 ?
140hp is so poor..
(03-05-2013, 03:00 PM)Simpler=Better Stock injection pump, but send it to Dieselmenken and he will install and calibrate new larger elements. I don't know the exact cost but I've heard $1,000-$2,000 being tossed around. With the stock pump you max out at around 140hp/190tq
Another option for a power boost is spraying methanol-the only dyno chart I've seen gained 25ish HP.
damn :S
ok thanks..
for 220-250 hp what can i do?
is it no easy with om617.952 ?
140hp is so poor..
the pump is what makes it powerful every thing else just helps supports it!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
03-05-2013, 05:39 PM #10With a stock pump maxed out 140hp with all of the other mods!
the pump is what makes it powerful every thing else just helps supports it!
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
03-05-2013, 07:38 PM #11All turbo cars have an MW pump stock, you will need an M pump for it to be rebuilt with larger elements I believe
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
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