OM 602 G Mercedes build for off-road racing
OM 602 G Mercedes build for off-road racing
OM 602 rebuild for off-road with GTB 22/60 VZK. (and wastegate)
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Please report back on how the cast welding/brazing goes, and what your process/materials are. I'm planning on modifying a cast manifold one day and any advice would be great.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
First we tried with TIG (AWI). But the final solution was the hot metallisation welding (maybe it is not real english expression, but i tried to translate)
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDI
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
new oil pump 320 CDI
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDI
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Beautiful!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(05-01-2013, 10:34 PM)tjts1 That looks amazing but is it going to be able to support the weight of the turbo?
(05-01-2013, 10:34 PM)tjts1 That looks amazing but is it going to be able to support the weight of the turbo?
(05-05-2013, 02:22 PM)offroaddieselhu I'm looking for a place
I'm looking for a place
(05-05-2013, 02:22 PM)offroaddieselhu I'm looking for a place
Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
It's so purdy!!!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
an older OM602 turbo piping to error control http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn7jLQLrAsk
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
(05-09-2013, 08:13 AM)Duncansport(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
Nice work your doing there, whats the scoop with the nozzles though? I wasn't aware there were different options for the 602, or what improvements they offer..
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
(05-06-2013, 09:29 AM)offroaddieselhu OM602 GTB 2260+wastegate
(05-09-2013, 08:13 AM)Duncansport(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
Nice work your doing there, whats the scoop with the nozzles though? I wasn't aware there were different options for the 602, or what improvements they offer..
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
What is the effect of using these nozzles?
Will they affect timing? Quantity of fuel injected?
What do they do, how did you decide to use them, anything like that so we can learn from your parts
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(05-09-2013, 01:09 PM)Simpler=Better What is the effect of using these nozzles?
Will they affect timing? Quantity of fuel injected?
What do they do, how did you decide to use them, anything like that so we can learn from your parts
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
(05-09-2013, 01:09 PM)Simpler=Better What is the effect of using these nozzles?
Will they affect timing? Quantity of fuel injected?
What do they do, how did you decide to use them, anything like that so we can learn from your parts
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu(05-05-2013, 03:32 PM)offroaddieselhu Previous OM602 series nozzle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvfGjbNZgLM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
(05-09-2013, 01:29 PM)offroaddieselhuVE want to lower loads operated pump. higher speed perfomance expect growth(05-09-2013, 01:09 PM)Simpler=Better What is the effect of using these nozzles?
Will they affect timing? Quantity of fuel injected?
What do they do, how did you decide to use them, anything like that so we can learn from your parts
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
do not want to get into a much more accurate fuel injection
(05-09-2013, 01:29 PM)offroaddieselhuVE want to lower loads operated pump. higher speed perfomance expect growth(05-09-2013, 01:09 PM)Simpler=Better What is the effect of using these nozzles?
Will they affect timing? Quantity of fuel injected?
What do they do, how did you decide to use them, anything like that so we can learn from your parts
(05-06-2013, 05:36 AM)offroaddieselhu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WrhcuctF_Q
591 RACE
do not want to get into a much more accurate fuel injection
What is your power goal with that turbo?
Are you utilizing the VGT part or just using the wastegate?
At what RPM's does it start to make boost?
I think this turbo would make a good street turbo but I've heard others say it's too small for a high-revving Mercedes diesel.
(05-09-2013, 03:42 PM)raysorenson What is your power goal with that turbo?
Are you utilizing the VGT part or just using the wastegate?
At what RPM's does it start to make boost?
I think this turbo would make a good street turbo but I've heard others say it's too small for a high-revving Mercedes diesel.
(05-09-2013, 03:42 PM)raysorenson What is your power goal with that turbo?
Are you utilizing the VGT part or just using the wastegate?
At what RPM's does it start to make boost?
I think this turbo would make a good street turbo but I've heard others say it's too small for a high-revving Mercedes diesel.
(05-09-2013, 03:59 PM)offroaddieselhu I know that this turbo is small for this car. But for off-road it's starts to work at critic RPM. (aprox. 1500-1600) I think to use bigger turbo is not possible. I experienced that these engines with this options are not useble in cars (only in off-road or 4x4).
(05-09-2013, 03:59 PM)offroaddieselhu I know that this turbo is small for this car. But for off-road it's starts to work at critic RPM. (aprox. 1500-1600) I think to use bigger turbo is not possible. I experienced that these engines with this options are not useble in cars (only in off-road or 4x4).
(05-09-2013, 08:56 PM)raysorenson(05-09-2013, 03:59 PM)offroaddieselhu I know that this turbo is small for this car. But for off-road it's starts to work at critic RPM. (aprox. 1500-1600) I think to use bigger turbo is not possible. I experienced that these engines with this options are not useble in cars (only in off-road or 4x4).
Hmmm.... I'm still not convinced it's too small for street. It makes 240hp on a low-rpm diesel with emission controls. If I could get 220hp out of a 603 and get good boost at 1500 rpm, my car would be very fun to drive with this turbo. I'm also considering using this turbo on a OM617 Toyota FJ40 with a 58.2:1 crawl ratio. If it makes any boost below 1500rpm with a 3.0L 617 it will be a great rock crawling turbo too.
(05-09-2013, 08:56 PM)raysorenson(05-09-2013, 03:59 PM)offroaddieselhu I know that this turbo is small for this car. But for off-road it's starts to work at critic RPM. (aprox. 1500-1600) I think to use bigger turbo is not possible. I experienced that these engines with this options are not useble in cars (only in off-road or 4x4).
Hmmm.... I'm still not convinced it's too small for street. It makes 240hp on a low-rpm diesel with emission controls. If I could get 220hp out of a 603 and get good boost at 1500 rpm, my car would be very fun to drive with this turbo. I'm also considering using this turbo on a OM617 Toyota FJ40 with a 58.2:1 crawl ratio. If it makes any boost below 1500rpm with a 3.0L 617 it will be a great rock crawling turbo too.
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDIscarcity of space
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDI
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDIscarcity of space
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 04:38 PM)offroaddieselhu new oil pump 320 CDI
old oil pump
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-01-2013, 03:18 PM)Simpler=Better That's weird as hell, but looks like it did the job!
Do you have any more photos of the assembly?
Is this the method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mCfchnJ724
http://www.aws.org/wj/nov02/feature.html
http://reneuxit-thermal-spray.com/Therma...Weld_.html
(05-15-2013, 06:15 AM)offroaddieselhu VGT build
vgt test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u74Ofbgjaoc https://www.youtube.com/edit?ns=1&featur...KzaMJkrWmg
looking good
(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/h...2426_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpg
(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/h...2426_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
(05-20-2013, 06:43 AM)offroaddieselhu https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/h...5316_n.jpg(05-16-2013, 06:08 AM)offroaddieselhu ready for 1st start
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
It's aliiiiiiive!!!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(05-20-2013, 08:01 AM)Simpler=Better It's aliiiiiiive!!!
I think the setting are not so god. With big nozle too small the turbine. I have to optimalizate.
(05-20-2013, 08:01 AM)Simpler=Better It's aliiiiiiive!!!
(06-02-2013, 04:33 PM)offroaddieselhu first test
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
As we say in 'murica, YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(06-04-2013, 09:06 AM)Simpler=Better As we say in 'murica, YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW!
(06-04-2013, 09:06 AM)Simpler=Better As we say in 'murica, YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW!
(05-01-2013, 03:35 AM)offroaddieselhu OM 602 rebuild for off-road with GTB 22/60 VZK. (and wastegate);
and an other version OM602 engine with standard turbo and with UAZ body
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OM 602 rebuild for off-road with GTB 22/60 VZK. (and wastegate);
and an other version OM602 engine with standard turbo and with UAZ body
(05-01-2013, 03:35 AM)offroaddieselhu OM 602 rebuild for off-road with GTB 22/60 VZK. (and wastegate);
and an other version OM602 engine with standard turbo and with UAZ body
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OM 602 rebuild for off-road with GTB 22/60 VZK. (and wastegate);
and an other version OM602 engine with standard turbo and with UAZ body
UAZ OM602 I don't like this car with original wastegate turbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dQbo7nh...h8itXs2hZQ