Electric lift pump.... per Dieselmeken ?
Electric lift pump.... per Dieselmeken ?
05-09-2013, 06:48 PM
#1
The BD lift pumps for Cummings are huge money so that's out of the question.
Bosch 044 flows some serious fuel but diesel is different then gas so
Duncansport
05-09-2013, 06:48 PM #1So whats the thought on the electric lift pump for full fuel to 6000rpm? Im thinking a Bosch 044 pump would do the trick but thought i would run it by the community here as i know some of you have ditched the IP driven lift pump in favor of a electric one.
The BD lift pumps for Cummings are huge money so that's out of the question.
Bosch 044 flows some serious fuel but diesel is different then gas so
05-09-2013, 09:46 PM
#2
(05-09-2013, 06:48 PM)Duncansport So whats the thought on the electric lift pump for full fuel to 6000rpm? Im thinking a Bosch 044 pump would do the trick but thought i would run it by the community here as i know some of you have ditched the IP driven lift pump in favor of a electric one.
The BD lift pumps for Cummings are huge money so that's out of the question.
Bosch 044 flows some serious fuel but diesel is different then gas so
I'm no expert but take your fuel delivery in cc x RPM x 6cyls =fuel flow requirement
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
05-09-2013, 09:46 PM #2(05-09-2013, 06:48 PM)Duncansport So whats the thought on the electric lift pump for full fuel to 6000rpm? Im thinking a Bosch 044 pump would do the trick but thought i would run it by the community here as i know some of you have ditched the IP driven lift pump in favor of a electric one.
The BD lift pumps for Cummings are huge money so that's out of the question.
Bosch 044 flows some serious fuel but diesel is different then gas so
I'm no expert but take your fuel delivery in cc x RPM x 6cyls =fuel flow requirement
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
05-10-2013, 09:08 AM
#4
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
hansebanger77
05-10-2013, 09:08 AM #4I'm running some WALBRO 3bar 255L/h work good but don't know if this is the best solution for 180cc+
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
05-10-2013, 09:10 AM
#5
(05-10-2013, 08:11 AM)swecias you can give 3-5bar of fuel, but elements can stuck.
Just to clarify, are you saying that providing too much pressure can cause the elements to get stuck or stick?
(05-10-2013, 09:08 AM)hansebanger77 I'm running some WALBRO 3bar 255L/h work good but don't know if this is the best solution for 180cc+
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
depending on how much diesel it actually pumps, that should be more than enough. That is enough flow for upwards of 500HP in a gasoline engine.
I know that gas is significantly less viscous than diesel so flowrates may be vastly different, (I burned up several gasoline transfer pumps while pumping out the 400+ gallons of fuel out of my boat...a 6-71 Detroit powered "project") but I don't know what the difference actually equates to in a flowrate vs. HP comparison for diesel...
This post was last modified: 05-10-2013, 09:19 AM by SurfRodder.
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05-10-2013, 09:10 AM #5(05-10-2013, 08:11 AM)swecias you can give 3-5bar of fuel, but elements can stuck.
Just to clarify, are you saying that providing too much pressure can cause the elements to get stuck or stick?
(05-10-2013, 09:08 AM)hansebanger77 I'm running some WALBRO 3bar 255L/h work good but don't know if this is the best solution for 180cc+
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
depending on how much diesel it actually pumps, that should be more than enough. That is enough flow for upwards of 500HP in a gasoline engine.
I know that gas is significantly less viscous than diesel so flowrates may be vastly different, (I burned up several gasoline transfer pumps while pumping out the 400+ gallons of fuel out of my boat...a 6-71 Detroit powered "project") but I don't know what the difference actually equates to in a flowrate vs. HP comparison for diesel...
W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **
S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **
OBK# 62
05-10-2013, 11:11 AM
#6
(05-10-2013, 09:08 AM)hansebanger77 I'm running some WALBRO 3bar 255L/h work good but don't know if this is the best solution for 180cc+
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
NO idea what the math is telling me as 140 x 6000 x 5cyl is 4200000... Tried to convert CC/min to lPM then to LPH lol, didn't make much sense. I think a 044 will be fine and i have one here from a 944T project so we'll give that a shot..
(05-10-2013, 08:11 AM)swecias 1-1,5bar thats all what needs for superpumps, you can give 3-5bar of fuel, but elements can stuck. more fuel with electric pump you can give for gasoline engine because you giving presure directly to injectors.
Dieselmeken tells me ill need 3 bar, perhaps more is an issue with these pumps?
This post was last modified: 05-10-2013, 11:12 AM by Duncansport.
Duncansport
05-10-2013, 11:11 AM #6(05-10-2013, 09:08 AM)hansebanger77 I'm running some WALBRO 3bar 255L/h work good but don't know if this is the best solution for 180cc+
180cc x 6000rpm x 6zyl = 6480000 ?
NO idea what the math is telling me as 140 x 6000 x 5cyl is 4200000... Tried to convert CC/min to lPM then to LPH lol, didn't make much sense. I think a 044 will be fine and i have one here from a 944T project so we'll give that a shot..
(05-10-2013, 08:11 AM)swecias 1-1,5bar thats all what needs for superpumps, you can give 3-5bar of fuel, but elements can stuck. more fuel with electric pump you can give for gasoline engine because you giving presure directly to injectors.
Dieselmeken tells me ill need 3 bar, perhaps more is an issue with these pumps?
05-15-2013, 09:34 AM
#8
(05-10-2013, 06:12 PM)mantahead leak off pipes blow off at over 4 bar
Haha, good to know
I've settled on the Bosch 044 as that should flow more then enough for this project.
Duncansport
05-15-2013, 09:34 AM #8(05-10-2013, 06:12 PM)mantahead leak off pipes blow off at over 4 bar
Haha, good to know
I've settled on the Bosch 044 as that should flow more then enough for this project.
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