STD Tuning Engine w202, changing to mechanical pump with auto box.

w202, changing to mechanical pump with auto box.

w202, changing to mechanical pump with auto box.

 
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mantahead
Holset

600
05-17-2013, 05:42 PM #1
hi,
that 200+bhp w202 i did for a guy. c250 turbo diesel.
its at 212bhp 262ft lb at the minute.

whats the max power and torque the autobox will take?
can i change to mechanical pump with the autobox, will the gearbox ecu be ok with no electric pump?

cheers.
This post was last modified: 05-17-2013, 05:43 PM by mantahead.
mantahead
05-17-2013, 05:42 PM #1

hi,
that 200+bhp w202 i did for a guy. c250 turbo diesel.
its at 212bhp 262ft lb at the minute.

whats the max power and torque the autobox will take?
can i change to mechanical pump with the autobox, will the gearbox ecu be ok with no electric pump?

cheers.

dcm
TA 0301

63
05-18-2013, 07:30 AM #2
From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.

The pump and box are linked through CAN so the box would need a separate controller with a mechanical pump.
dcm
05-18-2013, 07:30 AM #2

From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.

The pump and box are linked through CAN so the box would need a separate controller with a mechanical pump.

mantahead
Holset

600
05-18-2013, 01:00 PM #3
(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.

The pump and box are linked through CAN so the box would need a separate controller with a mechanical pump.
i never really studied the auto boxes before as i use manual myself.

so what does the auto box ecu need to know, rpm, mph, kickdown.
does it need throttle position.
what if i leave engine ecu and just change pump?
mantahead
05-18-2013, 01:00 PM #3

(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.

The pump and box are linked through CAN so the box would need a separate controller with a mechanical pump.
i never really studied the auto boxes before as i use manual myself.

so what does the auto box ecu need to know, rpm, mph, kickdown.
does it need throttle position.
what if i leave engine ecu and just change pump?

Eric78
GT2559V

198
05-18-2013, 09:13 PM #4
(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.
I was under the impression that w202 c250s had the 722.5 transmission which isn't particularly strong.
Eric78
05-18-2013, 09:13 PM #4

(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.
I was under the impression that w202 c250s had the 722.5 transmission which isn't particularly strong.

EDH_Performance
Holset

537
05-23-2013, 08:39 AM #5
(05-18-2013, 09:13 PM)Eric78
(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.
I was under the impression that w202 c250s had the 722.5 transmission which isn't particularly strong.

No, every c250td om605 has the 722.6 gearboxWink
EDH_Performance
05-23-2013, 08:39 AM #5

(05-18-2013, 09:13 PM)Eric78
(05-18-2013, 07:30 AM)dcm From what I've read the 722.612 is rated to 330Nm / 243 ft lb, I think all C250's have this box fitted.
I was under the impression that w202 c250s had the 722.5 transmission which isn't particularly strong.

No, every c250td om605 has the 722.6 gearboxWink

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
04-08-2014, 05:30 PM #6
Excerpt taken from the W202 Wikipedia article:

''At the launch of the "official" C-Class, all W202 variants were equipped with a five-speed manual gearbox. The 722.4 four-speed automatic transmission, also called 4G-TRONIC, was available as extra cost (standard on the C 36 AMG), which US dealers chose to mainly offer on sales lots. In 1996 this old transmission - which was on sale since 1981 - was replaced by a five-speed automatic gearbox (aka 722.5 or 5G-TRONIC), which received the auto with manual shifting in 1999 (722.6).''




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
04-08-2014, 05:30 PM #6

Excerpt taken from the W202 Wikipedia article:

''At the launch of the "official" C-Class, all W202 variants were equipped with a five-speed manual gearbox. The 722.4 four-speed automatic transmission, also called 4G-TRONIC, was available as extra cost (standard on the C 36 AMG), which US dealers chose to mainly offer on sales lots. In 1996 this old transmission - which was on sale since 1981 - was replaced by a five-speed automatic gearbox (aka 722.5 or 5G-TRONIC), which received the auto with manual shifting in 1999 (722.6).''





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

 
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