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VNT turbo

VNT turbo

 
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Gforce
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06-09-2013, 12:16 PM #1
i bought a used VNT turbo, owner didn't know where it came from but it was cheap so i bought it. it has a 45mm compressor wheel and 65mm turbine wheel, exhaust flange is T3, on the compressor housing is a nr with a mercedes star on so i gues its from mercedes, does anybody know what type and if its good for an om617 in a G for off road?[Image: 406897470.jpg]
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Gforce
06-09-2013, 12:16 PM #1

i bought a used VNT turbo, owner didn't know where it came from but it was cheap so i bought it. it has a 45mm compressor wheel and 65mm turbine wheel, exhaust flange is T3, on the compressor housing is a nr with a mercedes star on so i gues its from mercedes, does anybody know what type and if its good for an om617 in a G for off road?[Image: 406897470.jpg]
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MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
06-09-2013, 07:48 PM #2
45mm inducer, that thing would be super quick spool being a vnt!
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe stock is around 40mm, so that turbo should work nicely in my opinion Smile

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-09-2013, 07:48 PM #2

45mm inducer, that thing would be super quick spool being a vnt!
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe stock is around 40mm, so that turbo should work nicely in my opinion Smile


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-09-2013, 09:53 PM #3
that would be great, should it work with just a boost actuator to control it?
Gforce
06-09-2013, 09:53 PM #3

that would be great, should it work with just a boost actuator to control it?

aaa
GT2256V

913
06-10-2013, 12:04 AM #4
Wow a t3 vnt, pretty cool.

Boost actuator would not be ideal, without some sort of throttle input you'd have to avoid fully closing the vanes (which is kinda the point of a vnt). I'd like to throw out the idea of EGP actuating, seems like it might be less likely to bog the engine down while still closing the vanes as much as possible.
aaa
06-10-2013, 12:04 AM #4

Wow a t3 vnt, pretty cool.

Boost actuator would not be ideal, without some sort of throttle input you'd have to avoid fully closing the vanes (which is kinda the point of a vnt). I'd like to throw out the idea of EGP actuating, seems like it might be less likely to bog the engine down while still closing the vanes as much as possible.

winmutt
bitbanger

3,468
06-10-2013, 10:08 AM #5
A mercedes t3 vnt! Can you type those part numbers in for those of us with old eyes?

1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42
winmutt
06-10-2013, 10:08 AM #5

A mercedes t3 vnt! Can you type those part numbers in for those of us with old eyes?


1987 300D Sturmmachine
1991 300D Nearly Perfect
1985 300D Weekend/Camping/Dog car
1974 L508D Motoroam Monarch "NightMare"
OBK #42

majesty78
GT2559V

226
06-10-2013, 10:30 AM #6
Its a 466520-0001 loooooong, very loooong time out of production.

Actually at this time VNT didn't even officially exist ^^

Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin
majesty78
06-10-2013, 10:30 AM #6

Its a 466520-0001 loooooong, very loooong time out of production.

Actually at this time VNT didn't even officially exist ^^


Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-10-2013, 11:07 AM #7
I already guesed its not the original compressor housing
Gforce
06-10-2013, 11:07 AM #7

I already guesed its not the original compressor housing

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
06-10-2013, 11:11 AM #8
If your not very electronically inclined (like me), you could do a spring setup. With a mechanical stop to keep it from closing completely

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-10-2013, 11:11 AM #8

If your not very electronically inclined (like me), you could do a spring setup. With a mechanical stop to keep it from closing completely


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-10-2013, 11:47 AM #9
But how can i control boost pressure with a spring?
Gforce
06-10-2013, 11:47 AM #9

But how can i control boost pressure with a spring?

Simpler=Better
PORTED HEAD

2,127
06-10-2013, 12:50 PM #10
DIY boost controller:

This post was last modified: 06-10-2013, 12:52 PM by Simpler=Better.

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
06-10-2013, 12:50 PM #10

DIY boost controller:


Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

majesty78
GT2559V

226
06-10-2013, 03:06 PM #11
(06-10-2013, 11:07 AM)Gforce I already guesed its not the original compressor housing

How do you come to this conclusion?

Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin
majesty78
06-10-2013, 03:06 PM #11

(06-10-2013, 11:07 AM)Gforce I already guesed its not the original compressor housing

How do you come to this conclusion?


Mercedes Benz W210 E-Class 320CDI, lowered 2.5", 18" AMG wheels, Decat, EGR removed, Tumble flaps removed, C30 AMG injectors, 400kpa MAP, Custom GT2566XTV turbo, SW tweaked to 300+hp/750NmBig Grin

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-10-2013, 03:32 PM #12
Because i can't find any mercedes turbo's that look like that and the person i bought it from said he bought it from a tuning company
Gforce
06-10-2013, 03:32 PM #12

Because i can't find any mercedes turbo's that look like that and the person i bought it from said he bought it from a tuning company

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
06-10-2013, 03:34 PM #13
(06-10-2013, 11:47 AM)Gforce But how can i control boost pressure with a spring?

Having good spool up and being able to control boost with a spring setup is tough.
Most people do it on setups which are meant to make maximium boost the turbo/ fuel setup will allow.

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
06-10-2013, 03:34 PM #13

(06-10-2013, 11:47 AM)Gforce But how can i control boost pressure with a spring?

Having good spool up and being able to control boost with a spring setup is tough.
Most people do it on setups which are meant to make maximium boost the turbo/ fuel setup will allow.


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-10-2013, 03:42 PM #14
i think i will make a setup with trottle and boost, when on full trottle vanes are fully closed and then when boost is created the boost acurater will push the vanes open, trottle will be connected with a spring
Gforce
06-10-2013, 03:42 PM #14

i think i will make a setup with trottle and boost, when on full trottle vanes are fully closed and then when boost is created the boost acurater will push the vanes open, trottle will be connected with a spring

SurfRodder
Jackass Extraordinaire

611
06-11-2013, 08:56 AM #15
I always thought the way Lance did it was intriguing and would likely do something similar if I ever get far enough ahead of the power curve to install mine:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...ND+control

he also has some updates/insights posted on whatever forum he was last hanging around at...if he didnt wear out his welcome over there yet...

W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62
SurfRodder
06-11-2013, 08:56 AM #15

I always thought the way Lance did it was intriguing and would likely do something similar if I ever get far enough ahead of the power curve to install mine:
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/show...ND+control

he also has some updates/insights posted on whatever forum he was last hanging around at...if he didnt wear out his welcome over there yet...


W123 Mods: 4 speed ** manual climate control ** '85 Kalitucky intake ** manual windows & full tint ** Euro headlights retrofit w/bixenon projectors ** 4 brake light mod ** Vogtland 50mm drop front & Lesjofors S600 drop rear springs ** 16" rims ** late w126 brake spindles, rotors & calipers ** full suspension rehab ** Bilstein HDs ** AL129X alternator & 1/0 starter and charging cables ** 300GD clutch/flywheel ** AFCO 80103N radiator & Earl's 41610 oil cooler ** custom block-off plate, remote oil filter & t-stat ** MW IP w/ tomnik's 6.5mm 'Holly' elements **

S124 Mods: 400E Rear subframe ** SL600 Brakes ** Late 300E 210mm diff ** SLK230 6 speed ** 17" CLK rims ** Vented RF Fender ** Facelift Hood, Headlights, and Lower Cladding **

OBK# 62

Gforce
K26-2

32
06-18-2013, 02:17 PM #16
i have the vnt mounted on the om617, if the oil lines where a bit longer they would fit straight on. now i need to find a solution to connect it to the intake manifold. I also have a water cooled intercooler lying around but i don't know if it is ok for this engine?I am also gona send my pump to dieselmeken for 7,5mm elements
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this is the car its getting on
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Gforce
06-18-2013, 02:17 PM #16

i have the vnt mounted on the om617, if the oil lines where a bit longer they would fit straight on. now i need to find a solution to connect it to the intake manifold. I also have a water cooled intercooler lying around but i don't know if it is ok for this engine?I am also gona send my pump to dieselmeken for 7,5mm elements
[Image: 406993778.jpg]
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this is the car its getting on
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06-18-2013, 04:08 PM #17
(06-09-2013, 12:16 PM)Gforce i bought a used VNT turbo, owner didn't know where it came from but it was cheap so i bought it. it has a 45mm compressor wheel and 65mm turbine wheel, exhaust flange is T3, on the compressor housing is a nr with a mercedes star on so i gues its from mercedes, does anybody know what type and if its good for an om617 in a G for off road?[Image: 406897470.jpg]
[Image: 406897472.jpg]
[Image: 406897473.jpg]
[Image: 406897474.jpg]
[Image: 406897478.jpg]
it can build a good turbo (need to know the size and geometry of the shaft)
offroaddieselhu
06-18-2013, 04:08 PM #17

(06-09-2013, 12:16 PM)Gforce i bought a used VNT turbo, owner didn't know where it came from but it was cheap so i bought it. it has a 45mm compressor wheel and 65mm turbine wheel, exhaust flange is T3, on the compressor housing is a nr with a mercedes star on so i gues its from mercedes, does anybody know what type and if its good for an om617 in a G for off road?[Image: 406897470.jpg]
[Image: 406897472.jpg]
[Image: 406897473.jpg]
[Image: 406897474.jpg]
[Image: 406897478.jpg]
it can build a good turbo (need to know the size and geometry of the shaft)

 
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