Om605 compound turbo build, my Corolla Ke70 tracktoy
Om605 compound turbo build, my Corolla Ke70 tracktoy
Simpler; Thanks! Very fun to hear!
The trannys I have are a 717.411 that I have read that can take quite alot of beating, but that is my secund tranny, the first choice is the 717.435 from 2,6 that I have read that sould take even more beating than the .411 You also must remember that I only have half the wight of an old merc to push around, that makes the job easyer for the tranny
Here are the finish floor
Also mounted the clutch today, but something went wrong.
Here are the pressure plate only loose mounted, and it looks fine, but when I tighten the screws the center is pushed in, like its to tight for the clutch. Souldnt it look like on the picture? and not with the senter of the pressure plate pointing inn?
The plan was to put the engine and transmission in on thursday, but now it depends on the clutch.. :/
I've put down a tranny like that in my W123 allready :p
and it's only about 300hp atm, but, it's true what you say about the weight, it's a important
point..
but, I thing you will smash it really quick :p
witch one did you wreck, .411 or .435? Have read that they should take quite alot torque, and with the car that weights under 1000kg and with random sheep rear tires I dont think the tranny will be any problem the rear tires wil slip before reaching any high torques.
Mounted the clutch today, and then I got the tranny ready, with new fine oil. The old one looked not good, so new oil was needed
And connected
And installed in the car again!
Next big prosjekt is to get the rear axle in place
I tok a 417 i think :p
from a 230e :p
(05-09-2013, 06:03 PM)Stamsaas
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(05-09-2013, 06:03 PM)Stamsaas
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Hi. What clutch setup is that? Flat disc?
Dual flywheel?
Difficult to say. It's from pressureplate to pressureplate different. If the spring fingers go to much inside you have not the optimal pressure on disc. Otherwise to less has the same bad effect.
My expiriance with stock flywheel, plate, disc I machined down about 0.3 mm outside for best pressure resault. It's good tuning for soft turbo stock pump. But we all know ne'er hold a superturbo torque. :-)
(05-09-2013, 06:03 PM)Stamsaas witch one did you wreck, .411 or .435? Have read that they should take quite alot torque, and with the car that weights under 1000kg and with random sheep rear tires I dont think the tranny will be any problem the rear tires wil slip before reaching any high torques.
Mounted the clutch today, and then I got the tranny ready, with new fine oil. The old one looked not good, so new oil was needed
And connected
And installed in the car again!
Next big prosjekt is to get the rear axle in place
(05-09-2013, 06:03 PM)Stamsaas witch one did you wreck, .411 or .435? Have read that they should take quite alot torque, and with the car that weights under 1000kg and with random sheep rear tires I dont think the tranny will be any problem the rear tires wil slip before reaching any high torques.
Mounted the clutch today, and then I got the tranny ready, with new fine oil. The old one looked not good, so new oil was needed
And connected
And installed in the car again!
Next big prosjekt is to get the rear axle in place
(05-10-2013, 03:24 AM)Ksteen2 I tok a 417 i think :pOkay, dont know how that is, but the .411 and .435 are the ones that are talked about what I have seen after googleing alot I bet the wheels have no grip at 300hp
from a 230e :p
(05-10-2013, 08:32 AM)Simpler=Better I'm glad to see that using tires to floor mount an engine is a globally recognized methodHehe, yeah, but I never put it down, just had then there because I planer to install the engine a few days after I took it out, and tought it would be much easier to lay it down than hang it up in the enginerack :p
(05-10-2013, 08:59 AM)hansebanger77 Hi. What clutch setup is that? Flat disc?Hello the clutch is Spec Stage 5, and singlemass flywheel. I got some advise from Mr EDH_performance and spaced out the pressureplate 2mm, than it looked much better
Dual flywheel?
Difficult to say. It's from pressureplate to pressureplate different. If the spring fingers go to much inside you have not the optimal pressure on disc. Otherwise to less has the same bad effect.
My expiriance with stock flywheel, plate, disc I machined down about 0.3 mm outside for best pressure resault. It's good tuning for soft turbo stock pump. But we all know ne'er hold a superturbo torque. :-)
(05-10-2013, 09:37 AM)maxypriest LOVING THIS PROJECT!!!!!Thanks!
(05-10-2013, 03:24 AM)Ksteen2 I tok a 417 i think :pOkay, dont know how that is, but the .411 and .435 are the ones that are talked about what I have seen after googleing alot I bet the wheels have no grip at 300hp
from a 230e :p
(05-10-2013, 08:32 AM)Simpler=Better I'm glad to see that using tires to floor mount an engine is a globally recognized methodHehe, yeah, but I never put it down, just had then there because I planer to install the engine a few days after I took it out, and tought it would be much easier to lay it down than hang it up in the enginerack :p
(05-10-2013, 08:59 AM)hansebanger77 Hi. What clutch setup is that? Flat disc?Hello the clutch is Spec Stage 5, and singlemass flywheel. I got some advise from Mr EDH_performance and spaced out the pressureplate 2mm, than it looked much better
Dual flywheel?
Difficult to say. It's from pressureplate to pressureplate different. If the spring fingers go to much inside you have not the optimal pressure on disc. Otherwise to less has the same bad effect.
My expiriance with stock flywheel, plate, disc I machined down about 0.3 mm outside for best pressure resault. It's good tuning for soft turbo stock pump. But we all know ne'er hold a superturbo torque. :-)
(05-10-2013, 09:37 AM)maxypriest LOVING THIS PROJECT!!!!!Thanks!
The flywheel is OEM Mercedes and the spec is to Mercedes, but I dont know eksakt wich Merc the flywheels is from. That might have been the problem with the pressureplate
Rear axle is down, here is Ke70 vs Volvo 240
the 240 one is 1cm narrower without brakediscs, så it is quite perfekt for this car. Got all the old brackets of it
Time to open it and se, and it have taken som good beating. It has been used on a heavy 240 with 400hp v8, and some of the welding had cracks, and the oil had alot metallic effects :p
time to get in some new oil :p
starting on the new brackets
And finish measuring it up, ready to be welded on. Made them a little longer than the stock, because the car is quite low, to get the bars in more right angle
brackets on, and axle under the car. Will put it on the lower bars, and do the measuring under there to get the upper bars in correct position
allso welded over the diff, hoping it can hold one more season To be continued next weekend
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
If that breaks strike a deal with someone over here to trade manual transmission parts for a dana60. You will have a really hard time breaking a 60 (or fitting it under the car for that matter :p)
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Thanks Njdub! Glad if I can motivate!
Have been some more hours in the workshop now, made some brackets
Ready to weld
made the lower arms adjustable
welding finished
Last ting on, the spring bowl (or what the name is) is taken from the Ke70 axle, and the fit with the springs I am using. They are lesjøfors from Volvo 240
Primed
and painted
And sealed, ready for oil. Hengig the axle up tomorrow
Also put on one headlamp today, should just fit with 3" pressure pipe :p
Got aluminium inntake manifold today also, so a friend is going to weld me a dual plenum inntake
Duel plennum? I will have to make a plennum soon, thus are looking for some hints and tips on how to make a good design.
Dual plenum
It should spread the air better to all sylinders. But he couldt do it before a good tide, så I bought TIG welder today, and will try to make my own intake manifold
Today i hang up the rear axle, and this is will be the ridehight
Perfect fitment
custom
Enginebay
om606 intake vs om605. Syl 4 is the one that must go..
...and so it was
this looked a bit high...
But the hood fits on!
front part of the axle mounted to the gear, and the rear part cut down, ready to be modded to fit with the rear axle
More parts are also in order
Now, time for a update. Have started on the rollcage
removed some asphalt on the floor
Main tube in, and all fixing is being made after the Norwegian motorsports rules
And the hight of it
But then the hard parts came, to make the tubes to the front, and that the cage have to be lowered down trough the floor. So needed some holes
Point welded
When I was happy With the shape, I welded all that I could do from the underside and lowered the cage down to weld the overside
And back up again
Got some help from my friend that work in a bodyshop, and we made the boxes to the cage. Made them trough the floor to have jack pionts
inside
Welding in progress
And the other side
Just to weld the last part, and bok is finished. The bolts are one of the rules, so they just have to be there.
Now all the 4 boxes are finish, and the cage is welded in them. The worst part is done. Starting on the rear Next time
Long time sinse last time here now! Have done quite much,, so just throwing out some pics of the latest progress
Rollcage comming together
Done!
Next ut was to mask up the car, and prime the Cage. Here are also some new rims, that I will use on track. Think I need atleast 6 rear Wheels :p
Starting to paint the cage, semi matt black
Painting finish
And some new "stance" Wheels. I also have a thing for Nice rims :p
Brock B1 9x16 with a bit to much rubber
Have gotten a new low profile fan from Spal, and wil redo the fixing for radiator and cooler, and than I can get it in
Steering colum mounted, and made a bracket, so the oem Toyota ignition is fitted
And I have tried sandblasting on the manifold. blasted the inside
Finish looking really good!
clean!
Manifold mounted, and EGT sensor mounted, and copper braketube fitted to backpressure measuring
And made a bracket to the wastegate, since I have rotated the compressorside
And, that is about it to now
That's it?!?! When are you going to work on this thing?
Just kidding....Great work. Love following this one. Can't wait to see it finished.
As long as it doesn't suck at blowing all is fine... Awesome project!!!
NOW there have been way to long time since last update here. Have done quite a bit, but I have not had any time to update this.. There is alot, so I just throw out some pics and short describtion.
New vacum stop valve, and bracket made
And brakelines, all in teflon/steel.
And New rear discs redrilled and new calipers and pads mounted
new plate for track use
And starting on the new Dashboard
A littlebit paint
hmm.. little tight, is it? Got it on
Finish dash
Wrapped exhaust manifold
Velded in An10 fittings to the oil housing to oilcooler
Have allso started the engine in the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...nRHPCT2SRQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...sMEk1cUla0
And then I got it back on the floor, have been on stands since the autom.
then it was over in the lifter
Hopefully I can weld ut the bearing of the midle axle tomorrow.. Saturaday, than its tracktime!
Woot! Videos this weekend!
nice
veeerry low oil pan, but it is just awesome looking and so mean looking
Very good ....
Could you tell me where do you get information from rpm?
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
I think a 1/4" (6mm?) skidplate is needed at least
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(07-02-2013, 07:44 PM)lgreeley83 Woot! Videos this weekend!There will be alot video and pics! ;p
(07-03-2013, 03:09 AM)Ksteen2 niceThe oilpan is low, but not as low as i tought. I had lower oilpan on the daily, and that was not so big problems But I really need a front lip of a kind....
veeerry low oil pan, but it is just awesome looking and so mean looking
(07-03-2013, 04:14 AM)mantahead looking good, nice dash board, was going to make something like that for the merc.Thanks. Yes, the original plan was to use the original dash, but is was so easy and clean to just do it like this
(07-03-2013, 07:26 AM)bruno_pinho Very good ....It comes from the "W" on the dynamo. It Works fine, but the rpm klock have to be finetuned, so its not 100% correct now, its just about there on the feeling.
Could you tell me where do you get information from rpm?
(07-03-2013, 07:51 AM)Simpler=Better I think a 1/4" (6mm?) skidplate is needed at leastYeah, I think I will make something to take the worst beating :p
(07-02-2013, 07:44 PM)lgreeley83 Woot! Videos this weekend!There will be alot video and pics! ;p
(07-03-2013, 03:09 AM)Ksteen2 niceThe oilpan is low, but not as low as i tought. I had lower oilpan on the daily, and that was not so big problems But I really need a front lip of a kind....
veeerry low oil pan, but it is just awesome looking and so mean looking
(07-03-2013, 04:14 AM)mantahead looking good, nice dash board, was going to make something like that for the merc.Thanks. Yes, the original plan was to use the original dash, but is was so easy and clean to just do it like this
(07-03-2013, 07:26 AM)bruno_pinho Very good ....It comes from the "W" on the dynamo. It Works fine, but the rpm klock have to be finetuned, so its not 100% correct now, its just about there on the feeling.
Could you tell me where do you get information from rpm?
(07-03-2013, 07:51 AM)Simpler=Better I think a 1/4" (6mm?) skidplate is needed at leastYeah, I think I will make something to take the worst beating :p
New day finished, and have got some more shit done
Complete exhaust finish welded
And got a bad feeling of the clutch when we tried to bleed it, so tok out the old slave and it was crap. New one ordered, and tok some measures and found out it had to be 40mm longer.
Downpipe wrapped, and mounted the rest of the exhaust
so there was the cooler preasure pipes
was very tight with the standard intake, so this was not the best so have to modify this one. popped the hoses with under 1bar
Aired the clutch, that worked, and the brakes, and tok it out for a test!
have some shit that have to be better, but much also worket out fine very fun to have drove the car!!!
Here is a little Movie from the test, blows the boostpipe after 2.gear :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...MUDF0EsgUY
have to do a pumpadjustment tomorrow also
Weld as much as you can of the boost pipes. Booring when they pop
(07-05-2013, 08:56 AM)winmutt Dont worry about the low hanging exhaust, the oilpan will act as a warning indicator! Great build. Love it.Sure, no problem with the exhaust :p hehe! Exhaust is touching a bit when driving on gravel, but oilpan is ok but this mainly is a trackcar, so thats no biggie. Thanks
(07-05-2013, 09:38 AM)HaavardPYA Weld as much as you can of the boost pipes. Booring when they popHave swaped all pipes from aluminium to Steel that is welded with sports inside the clamp. Tested now 30 min ago and 1,6bar ish is ok
(07-05-2013, 06:00 PM)mantahead well done, looking good.Thanks mate I adjusted the pump abit from the engine today, and the idle is much better, but still thinks it sounds a bit harse when rewing up slowly.. Had the pump out once, and might think it have undone itself when mounted in again
think you need little retard on pump
this machine will turn a few heads.
(07-05-2013, 08:56 AM)winmutt Dont worry about the low hanging exhaust, the oilpan will act as a warning indicator! Great build. Love it.Sure, no problem with the exhaust :p hehe! Exhaust is touching a bit when driving on gravel, but oilpan is ok but this mainly is a trackcar, so thats no biggie. Thanks
(07-05-2013, 09:38 AM)HaavardPYA Weld as much as you can of the boost pipes. Booring when they popHave swaped all pipes from aluminium to Steel that is welded with sports inside the clamp. Tested now 30 min ago and 1,6bar ish is ok
(07-05-2013, 06:00 PM)mantahead well done, looking good.Thanks mate I adjusted the pump abit from the engine today, and the idle is much better, but still thinks it sounds a bit harse when rewing up slowly.. Had the pump out once, and might think it have undone itself when mounted in again
think you need little retard on pump
this machine will turn a few heads.
Was on the track Saturday, got the car ready, and did the last little testdrive 03.00 at the night before. Did a stop on the way to fuel it up
Had some problems, and mainly is that was overheating, and loads of it. Had 100 degrees water after a slow lap.. That combiened with loads og smoke, engine going hard and late spoolup wi desided to time up the pump again, an the track. And so we did, and had to remowe the radiator, enginemount and alda valve to get the pump out, but we got it out and timed. Mounted up the shit, and it fired at the first hit with smooth idle like factory new. Then we hit the track agian, and it worked great! Spool from the buttom, running sweet, and response. the pump was adjusted down quite a bit so not the highest power, but I will guess 120-150hp. Popped a watherhose and boostpipe of turbo after 2.round, and then it was finish for the day. Totaly I am very happy, got the car tested, and got some Things fixed. The clutch sliped some, so must find something there
Here are some pics my Brother took
And some other pics from facebook
Before timing the pump :p
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
This thing is incredible!!!!
Glad to hear the timing fixed it, and good to see the exhaust wrapped
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Love the look of the car!! What's your goal in the tq and hp area?
are you going to gatebil this weekend with that car??
I would love to se it
(07-09-2013, 03:33 PM)Simpler=Better This thing is incredible!!!!Thanks!
Glad to hear the timing fixed it, and good to see the exhaust wrapped
(07-10-2013, 11:16 AM)HaavardPYA Love the look of the car!! What's your goal in the tq and hp area?Thanks, I have not any big goals, just that it should be fun but I think 300-350hp can be possible Would rather have 300 and a fine curve of torque than 400 and have to shift up and down all the time. Now its quite good on Rudskogen, mostly only using 3. and 4. gear and the torque
(07-11-2013, 02:36 AM)Ksteen2 are you going to gatebil this weekend with that car??No, car will not be on Gatebil, but the owner will be one day :p but the car is only 10-15min from Rudskogen
I would love to se it
(07-09-2013, 03:33 PM)Simpler=Better This thing is incredible!!!!Thanks!
Glad to hear the timing fixed it, and good to see the exhaust wrapped
(07-10-2013, 11:16 AM)HaavardPYA Love the look of the car!! What's your goal in the tq and hp area?Thanks, I have not any big goals, just that it should be fun but I think 300-350hp can be possible Would rather have 300 and a fine curve of torque than 400 and have to shift up and down all the time. Now its quite good on Rudskogen, mostly only using 3. and 4. gear and the torque
(07-11-2013, 02:36 AM)Ksteen2 are you going to gatebil this weekend with that car??No, car will not be on Gatebil, but the owner will be one day :p but the car is only 10-15min from Rudskogen
I would love to se it
okei, I'm going too rudskogen on saturday, maybe I can take a look at it?
what a great build!
This think is the equivalent of bolting a V-twin motorcycle engine to a BMX bike. Absolutely awesome
haha, thanks! But I think a v-twin on a BMX is more crazy :p
Tok the car outside for some pics the other day, long time sinse some serious pics
Starting working on my house so there will be less time on the car.. But got the New clutch and flywheels today
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Where is the radio!?!?!?!
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Yes cars need a few basic things: Go, stop, clutch pedals, seats, windows that roll down, sun roofs and music. Everything else is optional.
(07-17-2013, 11:30 AM)Simpler=Better Where is the radio!?!?!?!under the hood...
(07-17-2013, 11:30 AM)Simpler=Better Where is the radio!?!?!?!under the hood...
(07-25-2013, 08:22 AM)StrikerofDeath under the hood...
best not exist!
(07-25-2013, 08:22 AM)StrikerofDeath under the hood...
best not exist!