what is this and why is it leaking???
what is this and why is it leaking???
igh::: chasing leaks on these old benzs is getting tire some. diesel, oil, tranny fluid, anti freeze. ::hangs head:: any ways pics of this leaking box tied into my rad system.![[Image: DSC_0346_zpsd5f596a7.jpg]](http://s1272.photobucket.com/user/1911diesel/media/DSC_0346_zpsd5f596a7.jpg.html)
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this is where it looks to be leaking between the plate and top.
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can i just delete this thing? is it important? hell what is it? what does it do? pre heat the rad fluid with the block heater? i thought it was added on the 82 to help with the waste oil kit. the 2 SDs we have dont have one, and i dont rember seeing one on the 2 300Ds my buddys have... any help would be great guys. thanks in advance.
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
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1911diesel
09-26-2013, 09:41 AM #1well, i thought my 78 was leak free, after sitting in front of the house over night on the brick, i noticed a small stream where it ran down the road to the curb. and its about a gallon shy. so upon inspection this thing is leaking... my 82 has one, but it looks different and not as much running into it i think, i may need to go look at it again. anyways the 78 seems to leak more then the random one on the 82...:igh::: chasing leaks on these old benzs is getting tire some. diesel, oil, tranny fluid, anti freeze. ::hangs head:: any ways pics of this leaking box tied into my rad system.
this is where it looks to be leaking between the plate and top.
can i just delete this thing? is it important? hell what is it? what does it do? pre heat the rad fluid with the block heater? i thought it was added on the 82 to help with the waste oil kit. the 2 SDs we have dont have one, and i dont rember seeing one on the 2 300Ds my buddys have... any help would be great guys. thanks in advance.
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-26-2013, 09:46 AM #2Its the heater control valve
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-26-2013, 09:51 AM #3i have no idea, it sits on the passanger side fender in front of the wheel well. rad lines come from fire wall to the back and thru to the rad. 4 one on each side. and a bunch of small lines that i have no idea what they are that go to the top of the gray/black box.
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-26-2013, 10:00 AM #4They where designed by Chrysler and uses in early w123 and all w116 they are made of plastic and they crack. There is a company that make an aluminum replacement one but they are expensive $800-$1000 . I found one in the junk yard and had in a w116 300sd way back in the day.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-26-2013, 10:20 AM #5sooooo, its not necessary? or, could i pull it apart, jb weld the f**k out of it and hope it works? im pretty good with the jb weld... lol its like duct tape for me...lol
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
(09-26-2013, 10:20 AM)1911diesel sooooo, its not necessary? or, could i pull it apart, jb weld the f**k out of it and hope it works? im pretty good with the jb weld... lol its like duct tape for me...lol
Sounds like a solution to me.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
09-26-2013, 10:21 AM #6(09-26-2013, 10:20 AM)1911diesel sooooo, its not necessary? or, could i pull it apart, jb weld the f**k out of it and hope it works? im pretty good with the jb weld... lol its like duct tape for me...lol
Sounds like a solution to me.
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
uhhh well... its out...
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and here is why it was leaking!!!!
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this was the back side facing the engine.
the top part with all the lines running to it is still flopped out of the way... i dunno what im goin to do about them...lol oh well ill start the by pass and see what else i can get done
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-26-2013, 10:49 AM #7Humm so after i found out what it was, thanks willbehere4u, some searching and it seems that the vac system on it is screwed anyway it only blows on defrost, and the aux pump works so i can delete the valve and let it run straight heat all the time since the ac isnt hooked up anyways. ill proly remove both of them, as long as i have heat to the cabin im good. i dont think i will even venture into playing with trying to repair the vac system on that thing. and im sure as heck not paying more then i have in the car for a new one. thanks again for the speedy reply willbehere4u.
uhhh well... its out...
and here is why it was leaking!!!!
this was the back side facing the engine.
the top part with all the lines running to it is still flopped out of the way... i dunno what im goin to do about them...lol oh well ill start the by pass and see what else i can get done
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
09-26-2013, 04:43 PM #8You could use a cheap heater valve and a choke cable to turn it on and off manually. or a plane garden valve for winter use only
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
(09-26-2013, 04:43 PM)willbhere4u You could use a cheap heater valve and a choke cable to turn it on and off manually. or a plane garden valve for winter use only
Ford Rangers have a 2in/2out vacuum operated heater core on/off thingy
Old VW's have a choke cable operated doohiky
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
09-26-2013, 07:43 PM #9(09-26-2013, 04:43 PM)willbhere4u You could use a cheap heater valve and a choke cable to turn it on and off manually. or a plane garden valve for winter use only
Ford Rangers have a 2in/2out vacuum operated heater core on/off thingy
Old VW's have a choke cable operated doohiky
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Austincarnut
09-26-2013, 07:54 PM #10There is an aftermarket maker of a replacement valve for your application, I would have to look into who it is. It evidently works better than the stock one
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-27-2013, 03:10 AM #11yes and its like $1000... no thanks... i just deleted it. still got heat to the cabin so screw it.
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
sassparilla_kid
09-27-2013, 02:57 PM #12Why not use a generic electric valve?
-1982 300D Turbo, 280k miles, ALDA apparently maxxed, fram 8038, 12 lbs boost, non-egr manifolds, W/M injection, 4 brake light mod, Gen II w126 front rotors/calipers, 4-speed swap
In the works: A/W IC, adjust pump, turbo rebuild (w/60 trim comp wheel)
-1980 300SD, 110k, project car. Goal is to get it lookin' like it did on the showroom floor (body and interior wise, not necessarily under the hood )
-1974 240D, FRESH PAINT!!!!!!
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-27-2013, 07:36 PM #13i dont know why the valve is necessary, if the electric pump pumps water to the cabin, then why do you need a valve? with out the valve isnt it just like an old chevy heater core, always having fluid flowing, only not near as much because the pump isnt running... all i know is i have the same amount of buttons working and the heat still blows in the cabin with out the thing and im not leaking rad fluid anymore.
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-27-2013, 08:07 PM #15you make me sound more back woods then i really am... its been a long time since ive used bailing wire, its mig wire or coat hangers any more...
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
(09-27-2013, 08:07 PM)1911diesel you make me sound more back woods then i really am... its been a long time since ive used bailing wire, its mig wire or coat hangers any more...
The fact that you even mention mig wire as a fastener discounts your statements
haha we're still rooting for you. They call it the "evil servo" for a reason
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Simpler=Better
09-27-2013, 09:07 PM #16(09-27-2013, 08:07 PM)1911diesel you make me sound more back woods then i really am... its been a long time since ive used bailing wire, its mig wire or coat hangers any more...
The fact that you even mention mig wire as a fastener discounts your statements
haha we're still rooting for you. They call it the "evil servo" for a reason
Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
1911diesel
09-28-2013, 04:51 AM #17hey ive screwed screws in with dimes, that dont make a dime a screwdriver. ill use what ever is at hand to fix a problem until a more suitable fix can be implemented. granted flux cored mig wire has the tendency to break, the solid stuff works pretty good a short time...lol depending on what your trying to hold with it... ask me how i know...
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
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