diesel meken's 10mm MW pump???
diesel meken's 10mm MW pump???
10-06-2013, 03:57 PM
#1
i cant be the only one here to have seen this... it was on my recommended for me list on youtube. it says it was posted 6 days ago. what was that pump pushing 130cc of fuel?
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78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
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1911diesel
10-06-2013, 03:57 PM #1http://youtu.be/hvNn2fPMexg
i cant be the only one here to have seen this... it was on my recommended for me list on youtube. it says it was posted 6 days ago. what was that pump pushing 130cc of fuel?
82 300SD-this engine may go in the 78...-Mary Jane
78 300CD-may be getting a new engine and rear end...-Brunhilde
82 300CD-uhhh race car project???-Gerda
85 300SD- the womans daily ITS F**KING PINK!-Tsybil
92 F350 CC LB dually-back up/tow pig/long haul land yacht.-Betsey
10-06-2013, 04:33 PM
#2
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
That's cool, maybe he can explain further why he only chose to make it 130cc? 10mm could do 300cc easily I bet, unless their is some limiting factor on the mw
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
10-06-2013, 05:10 PM
#3
"one of a kind"
so he probably wont be doing more of those yet, "they would be a heck lot more expensive"
(more work? more expensive parts? i dont know) but i understood it more as a one time thing, he had a one night stand with the MW pump, and went back to the almighty wifey, M-pump
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w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
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swampmonkey
10-06-2013, 05:10 PM #3talked to him about it
"one of a kind"
so he probably wont be doing more of those yet, "they would be a heck lot more expensive"
(more work? more expensive parts? i dont know) but i understood it more as a one time thing, he had a one night stand with the MW pump, and went back to the almighty wifey, M-pump
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
10-08-2013, 02:19 AM
#4
(10-06-2013, 05:10 PM)swampmonkey talked to him about itHi Not so much moore work, but alot of moore cost. Element is Bosch original and you all know that it cost alot moore than 60 euro/pc
"one of a kind"
so he probably wont be doing more of those yet, "they would be a heck lot more expensive"
(more work? more expensive parts? i dont know) but i understood it more as a one time thing, he had a one night stand with the MW pump, and went back to the almighty wifey, M-pump
This pump is set to 130-140cc, OM617 cant handle any Moore without temperature problems.
dieselmeken
10-08-2013, 02:19 AM #4(10-06-2013, 05:10 PM)swampmonkey talked to him about itHi Not so much moore work, but alot of moore cost. Element is Bosch original and you all know that it cost alot moore than 60 euro/pc
"one of a kind"
so he probably wont be doing more of those yet, "they would be a heck lot more expensive"
(more work? more expensive parts? i dont know) but i understood it more as a one time thing, he had a one night stand with the MW pump, and went back to the almighty wifey, M-pump
This pump is set to 130-140cc, OM617 cant handle any Moore without temperature problems.
10-08-2013, 10:42 AM
#5
I'm sure measures could be taken to lower them, such as water injection, lower compression maybe, big air to air intercooler, ream PC holes?
Am I on the right track, or out of my mind?
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
I suppose you mean EGT temps?
I'm sure measures could be taken to lower them, such as water injection, lower compression maybe, big air to air intercooler, ream PC holes?
Am I on the right track, or out of my mind?
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
10-08-2013, 11:19 AM
#6
(10-08-2013, 10:42 AM)MFSuper90 I suppose you mean EGT temps?
I'm sure measures could be taken to lower them, such as water injection, lower compression maybe, big air to air intercooler, ream PC holes?
Am I on the right track, or out of my mind?
617 cant flow enough air with its reverse flow cylinder head, as well as being cast iron it cannot absorb as much heat from the combustion event. Coupled with their small port size and inlet manifold being right on top of the exhaust manifold the heat issue becomes even worse.The 617 is a good motor for low down torque with stone ax simplicity and reliability.
Duncansport
10-08-2013, 11:19 AM #6(10-08-2013, 10:42 AM)MFSuper90 I suppose you mean EGT temps?
I'm sure measures could be taken to lower them, such as water injection, lower compression maybe, big air to air intercooler, ream PC holes?
Am I on the right track, or out of my mind?
617 cant flow enough air with its reverse flow cylinder head, as well as being cast iron it cannot absorb as much heat from the combustion event. Coupled with their small port size and inlet manifold being right on top of the exhaust manifold the heat issue becomes even worse.The 617 is a good motor for low down torque with stone ax simplicity and reliability.
10-08-2013, 12:35 PM
#7
(10-08-2013, 11:19 AM)Duncansport 617 cant flow enough air with its reverse flow cylinder head, as well as being cast iron it cannot absorb as much heat from the combustion event. Coupled with their small port size and inlet manifold being right on top of the exhaust manifold the heat issue becomes even worse.The 617 is a good motor for low down torque with stone ax simplicity and reliability.
Very good point Duncan, It never crossed my mind about the cross flow heads on the newer engines.
I should've caught on to that because in the tractor pulling world the John Deere 466cubic inch engines can't touch the international 466 for the pure fact that international runs cross flow heads and John Deere doesn't.
So extreme head work would be required to run more fuel through them, and from what I remember the rods can't take much more than 30psi anyhow so it's kind of a lose-lose situation with trying to squeeze hp out of a 617.
I bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
(10-08-2013, 11:19 AM)Duncansport 617 cant flow enough air with its reverse flow cylinder head, as well as being cast iron it cannot absorb as much heat from the combustion event. Coupled with their small port size and inlet manifold being right on top of the exhaust manifold the heat issue becomes even worse.The 617 is a good motor for low down torque with stone ax simplicity and reliability.
Very good point Duncan, It never crossed my mind about the cross flow heads on the newer engines.
I should've caught on to that because in the tractor pulling world the John Deere 466cubic inch engines can't touch the international 466 for the pure fact that international runs cross flow heads and John Deere doesn't.
So extreme head work would be required to run more fuel through them, and from what I remember the rods can't take much more than 30psi anyhow so it's kind of a lose-lose situation with trying to squeeze hp out of a 617.
I bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted
10-08-2013, 12:51 PM
#8
I bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
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Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
Duncansport
10-08-2013, 12:51 PM #8[/quote]
I bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
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Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
10-09-2013, 05:32 AM
#9
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Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
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WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
dieselmeken
10-09-2013, 05:32 AM #9I bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
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Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
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WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
10-09-2013, 09:14 AM
#10
(10-09-2013, 05:32 AM)dieselmeken(10-08-2013, 12:51 PM)DuncansportI bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
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WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
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Not sure the blow up yet. On the way home as i turned the corner to my road i head some awful clattering and the engine was skipping then it stopped dead. Coasted into my drive way. Engine turns a few degrees one way then stops, turns the other way and stops. I think it dropped a valve, which blows as their all new less then a few thousand ago....
Duncansport
10-09-2013, 09:14 AM #10(10-09-2013, 05:32 AM)dieselmeken(10-08-2013, 12:51 PM)DuncansportI bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
[/quote]
WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
[/quote]
Not sure the blow up yet. On the way home as i turned the corner to my road i head some awful clattering and the engine was skipping then it stopped dead. Coasted into my drive way. Engine turns a few degrees one way then stops, turns the other way and stops. I think it dropped a valve, which blows as their all new less then a few thousand ago....
10-10-2013, 04:21 AM
#11
(10-09-2013, 09:14 AM)Duncansport(10-09-2013, 05:32 AM)dieselmeken(10-08-2013, 12:51 PM)DuncansportI bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
[/quote]
Not sure the blow up yet. On the way home as i turned the corner to my road i head some awful clattering and the engine was skipping then it stopped dead. Coasted into my drive way. Engine turns a few degrees one way then stops, turns the other way and stops. I think it dropped a valve, which blows as their all new less then a few thousand ago....
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Or a snapped chain
Mine snapped at wot in 3rd gear and 6000rpm^^
EDH_Performance
10-10-2013, 04:21 AM #11(10-09-2013, 09:14 AM)Duncansport(10-09-2013, 05:32 AM)dieselmeken(10-08-2013, 12:51 PM)DuncansportI bet those 10mm elements make a nice quick injection though!
Yeah no doubt, the 7.5's in my m-pump made a noticeable difference. Bit noisier at idle is the only down side. And blowing up my engine haha.
WTF? Engine blow up? Idle chatter can be reduced if you set the timíng a bit later than stock.
[/quote]
Not sure the blow up yet. On the way home as i turned the corner to my road i head some awful clattering and the engine was skipping then it stopped dead. Coasted into my drive way. Engine turns a few degrees one way then stops, turns the other way and stops. I think it dropped a valve, which blows as their all new less then a few thousand ago....
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Or a snapped chain
Mine snapped at wot in 3rd gear and 6000rpm^^
10-10-2013, 09:01 AM
#12
Mine snapped at wot in 3rd gear and 6000rpm^^[/quote]
If only...i can see the cam spin over.
Duncansport
10-10-2013, 09:01 AM #12Or a snapped chain Mine snapped at wot in 3rd gear and 6000rpm^^
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If only...i can see the cam spin over.
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