Looking for a nice clutch setup.
Looking for a nice clutch setup.
So, after my automatic tranny seized there was no excuse for a manual tranny(717.430). After some struggling it's in (still need gearbox mount and driveshaft, temporary welded something up).
The problem now is that the clutch can't handle anything
0.5 bar boost and that's it.What will be a nice simple not to expensive solution? I haven't been on a dyno yet since the tranny broke, But my buddy who owns the dyno had a drive in it and his but-dyno says about 300hp.
In the near future i'm buying a 606 and aiming for 400hp. And probably fit a BMW gearbox. But i recon if i just get a BMW friction disk that's an easy fit.
It's currently a dual mass flywheel. I really like it. Can I keep it?
Hi guys.
So, after my automatic tranny seized there was no excuse for a manual tranny(717.430). After some struggling it's in (still need gearbox mount and driveshaft, temporary welded something up).
The problem now is that the clutch can't handle anything 0.5 bar boost and that's it.
What will be a nice simple not to expensive solution? I haven't been on a dyno yet since the tranny broke, But my buddy who owns the dyno had a drive in it and his but-dyno says about 300hp.
In the near future i'm buying a 606 and aiming for 400hp. And probably fit a BMW gearbox. But i recon if i just get a BMW friction disk that's an easy fit.
It's currently a dual mass flywheel. I really like it. Can I keep it?
(12-17-2013, 01:07 PM)Tito Hi guys.
So, after my automatic tranny seized there was no excuse for a manual tranny(717.430). After some struggling it's in (still need gearbox mount and driveshaft, temporary welded something up).
The problem now is that the clutch can't handle anything
What will be a nice simple not to expensive solution? I haven't been on a dyno yet since the tranny broke, But my buddy who owns the dyno had a drive in it and his but-dyno says about 300hp.
In the near future i'm buying a 606 and aiming for 400hp. And probably fit a BMW gearbox. But i recon if i just get a BMW friction disk that's an easy fit.
It's currently a dual mass flywheel. I really like it. Can I keep it?
a dual-mass flywheel with an 717.430?
hmm, correct me if im wrong, but i have the same gearbox, with an om602, and the flywheel is a single-mass flywheel....
you shure about that dual-mass?
either way, a friend butt-dynoed mine to around 300hp
althou i run mine with stock turbo, so i dont get that high-rpm kick.
i got 1.6bar of boost at the intake, and the clutch holds up, 3.07 rearend... real life performance i beat an 300CE 185whp, and without some extra weight in mine are even with the light 190E 2.3 16v with 175whp.
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
12-17-2013, 05:29 PM #2(12-17-2013, 01:07 PM)Tito Hi guys.
So, after my automatic tranny seized there was no excuse for a manual tranny(717.430). After some struggling it's in (still need gearbox mount and driveshaft, temporary welded something up).
The problem now is that the clutch can't handle anything
What will be a nice simple not to expensive solution? I haven't been on a dyno yet since the tranny broke, But my buddy who owns the dyno had a drive in it and his but-dyno says about 300hp.
In the near future i'm buying a 606 and aiming for 400hp. And probably fit a BMW gearbox. But i recon if i just get a BMW friction disk that's an easy fit.
It's currently a dual mass flywheel. I really like it. Can I keep it?
a dual-mass flywheel with an 717.430?
hmm, correct me if im wrong, but i have the same gearbox, with an om602, and the flywheel is a single-mass flywheel....
you shure about that dual-mass?
either way, a friend butt-dynoed mine to around 300hp
althou i run mine with stock turbo, so i dont get that high-rpm kick.
i got 1.6bar of boost at the intake, and the clutch holds up, 3.07 rearend... real life performance i beat an 300CE 185whp, and without some extra weight in mine are even with the light 190E 2.3 16v with 175whp.
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
I'm have talked to someone and he says I could try fitting dual pressure springs. I'm looking further into that. Should double the pressure.
I think the dual mass flywheel was retrofitted or something on the car it came from. It had a solid friction disk (no springs) so it's a matching pair with the clutch. I would like to keep it. I'm hoping it's a little bit better for my gearbox since it's absorbing the impact from the crankshaft.
I'm have talked to someone and he says I could try fitting dual pressure springs. I'm looking further into that. Should double the pressure.
(12-18-2013, 06:08 AM)Tito I think the dual mass flywheel was retrofitted or something on the car it came from. It had a solid friction disk (no springs) so it's a matching pair with the clutch. I would like to keep it. I'm hoping it's a little bit better for my gearbox since it's absorbing the impact from the crankshaft.
I'm have talked to someone and he says I could try fitting dual pressure springs. I'm looking further into that. Should double the pressure.
i was more wondering how you managed to fit a dual-mass flywheel to a transmission that is supposed to have a single mass, if that might be a reason to slipping clutch.
hope you figure something out
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
swampmonkey
12-18-2013, 07:16 AM #4(12-18-2013, 06:08 AM)Tito I think the dual mass flywheel was retrofitted or something on the car it came from. It had a solid friction disk (no springs) so it's a matching pair with the clutch. I would like to keep it. I'm hoping it's a little bit better for my gearbox since it's absorbing the impact from the crankshaft.
I'm have talked to someone and he says I could try fitting dual pressure springs. I'm looking further into that. Should double the pressure.
i was more wondering how you managed to fit a dual-mass flywheel to a transmission that is supposed to have a single mass, if that might be a reason to slipping clutch.
hope you figure something out
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daily driver
w115 240d 72hp 3.07 rearend
w123 om602 turbo 200whp 7.5mm pump fivespeed 3.07 rearend
+ a few more.
mbturbo.com
But I'm curious with the dual mass flywheel. I'm not positive. But it could be that because I fix Volkswagen cars all day and the dual mass flywheel of those is a pain in the ass.
With the 606 and BMW box I'm a free man. I can do what I want and when I want. But the 603 is my daily driver. That's the mayor issue.
Been speaking to people around here and almost all of them said machining down the flywheel. I'm positive that won't be enough. But with a sinter plate it could work out. I probably can fix them at my job. There are some sinter friction plates laying around here. Normally used for pulling tractors.
But I'm curious with the dual mass flywheel. I'm not positive. But it could be that because I fix Volkswagen cars all day and the dual mass flywheel of those is a pain in the ass.
With the 606 and BMW box I'm a free man. I can do what I want and when I want. But the 603 is my daily driver. That's the mayor issue.
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
willbhere4u
12-19-2013, 12:37 PM #7I got a single mass fly wheel conversion from a sprinter 2.2 CDI it has a 240mm disc and it replaces the duel mass flywheel it has the pilot bearing in the flywheel for the shorter input shaft of a duel mass transmission. My plan is to use it on a 606.962 with a 6spd out of a 2002 c230 kompressor in my 1987 w126 300sdl
1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running
that one can handle some power and it fits the OM60x engine's
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
go to ebay and find the sprinter dual mass replace ment
that one can handle some power and it fits the OM60x engine's
1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost
Hmmm maybe I'm not going to spend any money on this engine anymore... Because I got myself a 606 before the end of the year! Just 350 euro with turbo and ip. Looks like a bargain. I'm hoping it's a good engine. Seems a little bit to cheap. But always better than a n/a engine.
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