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Ksteen2

Holset

304

12-11-2013, 09:44 AM #151

that's cool, a little to small i my opinion, but, u know, I'm more for the big old holseth hx60 in a compound with a hx30-35 Wink

1#
Volvo 940 estate 1995
Originaly a d24tic
Changed to OM606.962 From the old 81 Benz
4" dp, 3,5" stainless from DP out.
8mm dieselmeken pump att 180cc
BW kkk K29 turbo, 15cm hot side
home made flywheel with sachs 765PP and original mercedes 240mm organic disc
6speed cdi box
4,5" humongus cooler
Please wait, loading boost

Ksteen2

12-11-2013, 09:44 AM #151

that's cool, a little to small i my opinion, but, u know, I'm more for the big old holseth hx60 in a compound with a hx30-35 Wink

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-11-2013, 02:58 PM #152

Why would I want too big turbos? I now have Hy35w 9cm and that have full boost right over 3000rpm, and the point with the compound is to get the boost earlier, from about 2000rpm AND have higher Power than I can get today. I want to have drivability and a wide powerband more than I want high numbers on the top of the scale on a paper Smile

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Stamsaas

12-11-2013, 02:58 PM #152

Ksteen2

Holset

304

12-12-2013, 03:21 AM #153

u didn't understand what I meant I think :p
have a little low en turbo, like a 30-35 witch you can get all down to 7cm housing, atleast the 35 :p
i dont know about the 30's smallest housing, but on top of that, a slitly bigger meaner turbo, a hx52 or 60 with 16-18 cm housing, that spools quick with boost from the little one, that say's low en torque and power band Wink

all the way to the top Wink

Ksteen2

12-12-2013, 03:21 AM #153

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-12-2013, 03:12 PM #154

16-18cm would not spinn much on this, no use of boost from 6000rpm Wink

I will drive Hx30w 6cm and He351w 12cm, any bigger is too big, compared with that the 9cm is "dead" before 3000rpm Smile

Stamsaas

12-12-2013, 03:12 PM #154

16-18cm would not spinn much on this, no use of boost from 6000rpm Wink
I will drive Hx30w 6cm and He351w 12cm, any bigger is too big, compared with that the 9cm is "dead" before 3000rpm Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-16-2013, 02:08 PM #155

I would like some help With what I can do With two things. Smile

1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

2: Sinse I am building compound and put more money in the engine, I am thinking of do some work on the head. First tought is stiffer walvesprings and new camshafts. Is the N/A camshafts better than the turbo ones? What else would you have done? Smile

Thanks for any help Smile

Stamsaas

12-16-2013, 02:08 PM #155

I would like some help With what I can do With two things. Smile
1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

2: Sinse I am building compound and put more money in the engine, I am thinking of do some work on the head. First tought is stiffer walvesprings and new camshafts. Is the N/A camshafts better than the turbo ones? What else would you have done? Smile

Thanks for any help Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-18-2013, 04:05 PM #156

Wohoo!

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Stamsaas

12-18-2013, 04:05 PM #156

Wohoo! Big Grin

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EDH_Performance

Holset

537

12-19-2013, 11:34 AM #157

Send your stock cams to kmcams in norway, and let them regrind them snd they will supply you with stiffer springs Wink

this is s must alex^^

EDH_Performance

12-19-2013, 11:34 AM #157

Send your stock cams to kmcams in norway, and let them regrind them snd they will supply you with stiffer springs Wink this is s must alex^^

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-19-2013, 04:07 PM #158

I have allready for price of stiffer springs Smile

but it was a stiff price to regrind the cams Tongue

is the N/A intake cam an alternative? Smile

Stamsaas

12-19-2013, 04:07 PM #158

I have allready for price of stiffer springs Smile but it was a stiff price to regrind the cams Tongue is the N/A intake cam an alternative? Smile

erling66

SuperDieselVan

294

12-20-2013, 03:12 PM #159

(12-16-2013, 02:08 PM)Stamsaas 1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

You can cut and weld the oil pickup, no problem. But maybe you should consider a pump with more capacity? you need oil for 2 turbos so maybe a pump from 606? (look at my oil pump thread)
You can cut your 605 pan but you will have less oil, maybe a problem?
I have a 603 turbo pan you can modify and use. Call me if you need more info.

erling66

12-20-2013, 03:12 PM #159

(12-16-2013, 02:08 PM)Stamsaas 1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

Alcaid

TA 0301

58

12-29-2013, 03:24 PM #160

(12-12-2013, 03:21 AM)Ksteen2 u didn't understand what I meant I think :p
have a little low en turbo, like a 30-35 witch you can get all down to 7cm housing, atleast the 35 :p
i dont know about the 30's smallest housing, but on top of that, a slitly bigger meaner turbo, a hx52 or 60 with 16-18 cm housing, that spools quick with boost from the little one, that say's low en torque and power band
all the way to the top

No, HX35 can not be had with a 7cm housng, 10cm is the smallest

Smallest housing on HX30W is 6cm, as the one Stamsaas got for this build.

Calling a HX52 or HX60 a "slighy bigger" turbo is an understatement. They are WAY bigger and they are both awful matches for a full compound setup with a HX30W.

This HE351W must not be mistaken by the smaller HE351CW, This one is a HX35/HX40 hybrid with the latest family HX40 comp wheels (this exact wheel is used in up to 350hp OEM applications)

Alcaid

12-29-2013, 03:24 PM #160

(12-12-2013, 03:21 AM)Ksteen2 u didn't understand what I meant I think :p
have a little low en turbo, like a 30-35 witch you can get all down to 7cm housing, atleast the 35 :p
i dont know about the 30's smallest housing, but on top of that, a slitly bigger meaner turbo, a hx52 or 60 with 16-18 cm housing, that spools quick with boost from the little one, that say's low en torque and power band
all the way to the top

john

GTA2056V

90

12-29-2013, 04:24 PM #161

(12-29-2013, 03:24 PM)Alcaid
(12-12-2013, 03:21 AM)Ksteen2 u didn't understand what I meant I think :p
have a little low en turbo, like a 30-35 witch you can get all down to 7cm housing, atleast the 35 :p
i dont know about the 30's smallest housing, but on top of that, a slitly bigger meaner turbo, a hx52 or 60 with 16-18 cm housing, that spools quick with boost from the little one, that say's low en torque and power band
all the way to the top

No, HX35 can not be had with a 7cm housng, 10cm is the smallest

Smallest housing on HX30W is 6cm, as the one Stamsaas got for this build.

Calling a HX52 or HX60 a "slighy bigger" turbo is an understatement. They are WAY bigger and they are both awful matches for a full compound setup with a HX30W.

This HE351W must not be mistaken by the smaller HE351CW, This one is a HX35/HX40 hybrid with the latest family HX40 comp wheels (this exact wheel is used in up to 350hp OEM applications)

Soory for thread highjack.
Why is hx52 a bad match to hx30? is the hx30 to small or the hx52 to big?
I know guys driving single turbo with only a hx52 and 220cc and getting boost between 2500 - 3500 and all the way to the top.
It would be awful for street but for racing it does his job fine he gets ALOT of power from his 606

Holset power!

john

12-29-2013, 04:24 PM #161

(12-29-2013, 03:24 PM)Alcaid
(12-12-2013, 03:21 AM)Ksteen2 u didn't understand what I meant I think :p
have a little low en turbo, like a 30-35 witch you can get all down to 7cm housing, atleast the 35 :p
i dont know about the 30's smallest housing, but on top of that, a slitly bigger meaner turbo, a hx52 or 60 with 16-18 cm housing, that spools quick with boost from the little one, that say's low en torque and power band
all the way to the top

No, HX35 can not be had with a 7cm housng, 10cm is the smallest

Smallest housing on HX30W is 6cm, as the one Stamsaas got for this build.

Calling a HX52 or HX60 a "slighy bigger" turbo is an understatement. They are WAY bigger and they are both awful matches for a full compound setup with a HX30W.

This HE351W must not be mistaken by the smaller HE351CW, This one is a HX35/HX40 hybrid with the latest family HX40 comp wheels (this exact wheel is used in up to 350hp OEM applications)

Holset power!

Alcaid

TA 0301

58

12-29-2013, 04:34 PM #162

(12-29-2013, 04:24 PM)john Soory for thread highjack.
Why is hx52 a bad match to hx30? is the hx30 to small or the hx52 to big?
I know guys driving single turbo with only a hx52 and 220cc and getting boost between 2500 - 3500 and all the way to the top.
It would be awful for street but for racing it does his job fine he gets ALOT of power from his 606

They are too far apart to be able to work together in a compound setup

Also remember this is an OM605, not an OM606 so it is lacking 0.5 liter displacement = more lag and needs more boost to swallow similar amounts of air. Car is also lightweight so a responsive turbo system is needed as his tires will only be spinning and not creating the load needed to get those big heavy turbos to spool properly

Alcaid

12-29-2013, 04:34 PM #162

(12-29-2013, 04:24 PM)john Soory for thread highjack.
Why is hx52 a bad match to hx30? is the hx30 to small or the hx52 to big?
I know guys driving single turbo with only a hx52 and 220cc and getting boost between 2500 - 3500 and all the way to the top.
It would be awful for street but for racing it does his job fine he gets ALOT of power from his 606

john

GTA2056V

90

12-29-2013, 05:06 PM #163

(12-29-2013, 04:34 PM)Alcaid
(12-29-2013, 04:24 PM)john Soory for thread highjack.
Why is hx52 a bad match to hx30? is the hx30 to small or the hx52 to big?
I know guys driving single turbo with only a hx52 and 220cc and getting boost between 2500 - 3500 and all the way to the top.
It would be awful for street but for racing it does his job fine he gets ALOT of power from his 606

They are too far apart to be able to work together in a compound setup

Also remember this is an OM605, not an OM606 so it is lacking 0.5 liter displacement = more lag and needs more boost to swallow similar amounts of air. Car is also lightweight so a responsive turbo system is needed as his tires will only be spinning and not creating the load needed to get those big heavy turbos to spool properly

Ahh ok. any thumb rules on differences in turbosize in compound setups?
i have read this thread with joy many times and never realized it was a 605 Idea

ITS IN THE THREADNAME Tongue

Holset power!

john

12-29-2013, 05:06 PM #163

(12-29-2013, 04:34 PM)Alcaid
(12-29-2013, 04:24 PM)john Soory for thread highjack.
Why is hx52 a bad match to hx30? is the hx30 to small or the hx52 to big?
I know guys driving single turbo with only a hx52 and 220cc and getting boost between 2500 - 3500 and all the way to the top.
It would be awful for street but for racing it does his job fine he gets ALOT of power from his 606

They are too far apart to be able to work together in a compound setup

Also remember this is an OM605, not an OM606 so it is lacking 0.5 liter displacement = more lag and needs more boost to swallow similar amounts of air. Car is also lightweight so a responsive turbo system is needed as his tires will only be spinning and not creating the load needed to get those big heavy turbos to spool properly

Ahh ok. any thumb rules on differences in turbosize in compound setups?
i have read this thread with joy many times and never realized it was a 605 Idea

ITS IN THE THREADNAME Tongue

Holset power!

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-29-2013, 05:51 PM #164

(12-20-2013, 03:12 PM)erling66
(12-16-2013, 02:08 PM)Stamsaas 1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

You can cut and weld the oil pickup, no problem. But maybe you should consider a pump with more capacity? you need oil for 2 turbos so maybe a pump from 606? (look at my oil pump thread)
You can cut your 605 pan but you will have less oil, maybe a problem?
I have a 603 turbo pan you can modify and use. Call me if you need more info.

hmm, is the 606 pump bigger? And will the 605 pump struggle With deliver oil to two turbos? If I modify the pan, the plan is to make it wider so it still take the same amount of oil, but how much can be cut out? Smile

all this is quite New for me Smile

(12-29-2013, 04:34 PM)Alcaid They are too far apart to be able to work together in a compound setup

Also remember this is an OM605, not an OM606 so it is lacking 0.5 liter displacement = more lag and needs more boost to swallow similar amounts of air. Car is also lightweight so a responsive turbo system is needed as his tires will only be spinning and not creating the load needed to get those big heavy turbos to spool properly

Really looking forward to try this new setup! Big Grin

And I think the lightweight problem is unusual here since the most mercs weights about the double of my car :p

(12-29-2013, 05:06 PM)john Ahh ok. any thumb rules on differences in turbosize in compound setups?
i have read this thread with joy many times and never realized it was a 605 ITS IN THE THREADNAME

The plan from start was 606, but it had to be 605 because of the awailable space :p But it still gets the job done! Wink

Stamsaas

12-29-2013, 05:51 PM #164

(12-20-2013, 03:12 PM)erling66
(12-16-2013, 02:08 PM)Stamsaas 1: I need to reweld the oilpan, because it is 3cm under the lowest point of the car, and the first that will hit anything if I og of-track. What can I do with the oilpump? Can I shorten the original pipe Shorter, or can I use oilpump from something else?

You can cut and weld the oil pickup, no problem. But maybe you should consider a pump with more capacity? you need oil for 2 turbos so maybe a pump from 606? (look at my oil pump thread)
You can cut your 605 pan but you will have less oil, maybe a problem?
I have a 603 turbo pan you can modify and use. Call me if you need more info.

all this is quite New for me Smile

(12-29-2013, 04:34 PM)Alcaid They are too far apart to be able to work together in a compound setup

Also remember this is an OM605, not an OM606 so it is lacking 0.5 liter displacement = more lag and needs more boost to swallow similar amounts of air. Car is also lightweight so a responsive turbo system is needed as his tires will only be spinning and not creating the load needed to get those big heavy turbos to spool properly

Really looking forward to try this new setup! Big Grin

And I think the lightweight problem is unusual here since the most mercs weights about the double of my car :p

(12-29-2013, 05:06 PM)john Ahh ok. any thumb rules on differences in turbosize in compound setups?
i have read this thread with joy many times and never realized it was a 605 ITS IN THE THREADNAME

The plan from start was 606, but it had to be 605 because of the awailable space :p But it still gets the job done! Wink

EDH_Performance

Holset

537

12-29-2013, 06:07 PM #165

I've read somwhere that holset them selfs uses hx35/hx 52 and hx40/hx60 combos^^

EDH_Performance

12-29-2013, 06:07 PM #165

I've read somwhere that holset them selfs uses hx35/hx 52 and hx40/hx60 combos^^

erling66

SuperDieselVan

294

12-30-2013, 03:52 AM #166

The 603 oil pan has an extra chamber(for more oil) bolted to the side, that is why I suggested to use it, but it will require some serious welding since you have to shorten it.

erling66

12-30-2013, 03:52 AM #166

I don't know if the 606 oil pump is bigger. measure your 605 pump and I can tell you if it is.
Can the 605 pump deliver enough oil volume for one extra turbo? don't know, but do you want to try to find out the hard way? Confused
The 603 oil pan has an extra chamber(for more oil) bolted to the side, that is why I suggested to use it, but it will require some serious welding since you have to shorten it.

Duncansport

Holset

526

12-30-2013, 12:11 PM #167

(12-30-2013, 03:52 AM)erling66 I don't know if the 606 oil pump is bigger. measure your 605 pump and I can tell you if it is.
Can the 605 pump deliver enough oil volume for one extra turbo? don't know, but do you want to try to find out the hard way?
The 603 oil pan has an extra chamber(for more oil) bolted to the side, that is why I suggested to use it, but it will require some serious welding since you have to shorten it.

Couldn't he use a 602.962 pan? Same bump out as a 603

Duncansport

12-30-2013, 12:11 PM #167

(12-30-2013, 03:52 AM)erling66 I don't know if the 606 oil pump is bigger. measure your 605 pump and I can tell you if it is.
Can the 605 pump deliver enough oil volume for one extra turbo? don't know, but do you want to try to find out the hard way?
The 603 oil pan has an extra chamber(for more oil) bolted to the side, that is why I suggested to use it, but it will require some serious welding since you have to shorten it.

Couldn't he use a 602.962 pan? Same bump out as a 603

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

12-30-2013, 02:03 PM #168

Any pics of this 602/603 pan? Smile

how much different is the hight compared to 605/606? Smile

Stamsaas

12-30-2013, 02:03 PM #168

Any pics of this 602/603 pan? Smile how much different is the hight compared to 605/606? Smile

erling66

SuperDieselVan

294

12-31-2013, 03:59 AM #169

Duncansport I have never seen a 602.962 pan, but if it has the same bump for extra volume it would be great Smile

Do you have photos?

erling66

12-31-2013, 03:59 AM #169

Duncansport I have never seen a 602.962 pan, but if it has the same bump for extra volume it would be great Smile Do you have photos?

Duncansport

Holset

526

12-31-2013, 10:11 AM #170

(12-31-2013, 03:59 AM)erling66 Duncansport I have never seen a 602.962 pan, but if it has the same bump for extra volume it would be great Do you have photos?

Duncansport

12-31-2013, 10:11 AM #170

(12-31-2013, 03:59 AM)erling66 Duncansport I have never seen a 602.962 pan, but if it has the same bump for extra volume it would be great Do you have photos?

erling66

SuperDieselVan

294

12-31-2013, 10:34 AM #171

That looks very similar to the 603 turbo pan, so try to get that one. I believe that all the 602/3/5/6 pans have the same depth, so you will have to cut off 2-3cm but should be ok.
Oil splashing around and hitting the crank is a different concern so don't fill more than max, or even better is to stay close to minimum(if you don't loose oil pressure during acceleration or curves)

erling66

12-31-2013, 10:34 AM #171

Duncansport

Holset

526

12-31-2013, 01:03 PM #172

(12-31-2013, 10:34 AM)erling66 That looks very similar to the 603 turbo pan, so try to get that one. I believe that all the 602/3/5/6 pans have the same depth, so you will have to cut off 2-3cm but should be ok.
Oil splashing around and hitting the crank is a different concern so don't fill more than max, or even better is to stay close to minimum(if you don't loose oil pressure during acceleration or curves)

I thought that 605/606's use windage trays? My 602 had one installed OE

This post was last modified: 01-03-2014, 11:46 AM by Duncansport.

Duncansport

12-31-2013, 01:03 PM #172

(12-31-2013, 10:34 AM)erling66 That looks very similar to the 603 turbo pan, so try to get that one. I believe that all the 602/3/5/6 pans have the same depth, so you will have to cut off 2-3cm but should be ok.
Oil splashing around and hitting the crank is a different concern so don't fill more than max, or even better is to stay close to minimum(if you don't loose oil pressure during acceleration or curves)

I thought that 605/606's use windage trays? My 602 had one installed OE

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

01-03-2014, 11:14 AM #173

All turbos together, before the Hy35w was leaved on the mailoffice

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Ordered alot of parts, so ready to start building New manifold Smile

This will be tight Smile

This post was last modified: 01-03-2014, 11:14 AM by Stamsaas.

Stamsaas

01-03-2014, 11:14 AM #173

All turbos together, before the Hy35w was leaved on the mailoffice

[Image: 20140102_162511_zps9345d05f.jpg]

Ordered alot of parts, so ready to start building New manifold Smile This will be tight Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-02-2014, 12:10 PM #174

Long time no see.. Have been busy with so much lately, so have not had any time for this.. But I have used the time to collect parts Smile

So yesterday I loaded up the car and went to the garage

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The complete new front suspension, adjusteble arms from 200sx S13, and the thing with the wheelbearing (dont remember the English Word for it :p ) from S13 and D2 coilovers from S14. Ony missing brake calipers and discs.

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Had to testfit to see how this setup changes the track Width. Have to modify the arms slightly to make them fit

[Image: 20140201_213628_zps2f15eb9b.jpg]

[Image: 20140201_213628_zps2f15eb9b.jpg]

and about the track Width......

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Got a little better when pushed it inn to max camber on the coilover bolts

[Image: 20140201_214358_zps2c1b18f1.jpg]

Still there will be a brakedisc in between, and that does not help :p
So now I have to put on spacers on the back, as the rear cant be any narrower then the front :p

Allso got the flanges to make the New exhaust manifold and som other Things Smile

New intercooler and some stuff.. Smile

[Image: 20140201_214714_zps24097779.jpg]

Need to get this projekt started again Smile

Stamsaas

02-02-2014, 12:10 PM #174

Long time no see.. Have been busy with so much lately, so have not had any time for this.. But I have used the time to collect parts Smile
So yesterday I loaded up the car and went to the garage

[Image: 20140201_115326_zps283d64bf.jpg]

The complete new front suspension, adjusteble arms from 200sx S13, and the thing with the wheelbearing (dont remember the English Word for it :p ) from S13 and D2 coilovers from S14. Ony missing brake calipers and discs.

[Image: 20140201_125245_zpsbc60c9fb.jpg]

Had to testfit to see how this setup changes the track Width. Have to modify the arms slightly to make them fit

[Image: 20140201_213628_zps2f15eb9b.jpg]

and about the track Width......

[Image: 20140201_214704_zps4d63ab0d.jpg]

Got a little better when pushed it inn to max camber on the coilover bolts

[Image: 20140201_214358_zps2c1b18f1.jpg]

Still there will be a brakedisc in between, and that does not help :p
So now I have to put on spacers on the back, as the rear cant be any narrower then the front :p

Allso got the flanges to make the New exhaust manifold and som other Things Smile New intercooler and some stuff.. Smile

[Image: 20140201_214714_zps24097779.jpg]

Need to get this projekt started again Smile

Simpler=Better

PORTED HEAD

2,127

02-03-2014, 09:07 AM #175

I love the track width, you need some garden trim to keep the rocks from flying Smile

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up

larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Simpler=Better

02-03-2014, 09:07 AM #175

I love the track width, you need some garden trim to keep the rocks from flying Smile

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up

larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

S.Engen

Naturally-aspirated

8

02-03-2014, 12:30 PM #176

you have ordered new exhaust flange. six holes Smile

new plans?

S.Engen

02-03-2014, 12:30 PM #176

you have ordered new exhaust flange. six holes Smile new plans?

willbhere4u

Six in a row make her go!

2,507

02-03-2014, 04:39 PM #177

Wide body kit

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

willbhere4u

02-03-2014, 04:39 PM #177

Wide body kit

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

EDH_Performance

Holset

537

02-04-2014, 03:04 AM #178

(02-03-2014, 12:30 PM)S.Engen you have ordered new exhaust flange. six holes new plans?

Klracing only have flange for 6 cyl, so just chop one off, or two off for a om604 Smile

EDH_Performance

02-04-2014, 03:04 AM #178

(02-03-2014, 12:30 PM)S.Engen you have ordered new exhaust flange. six holes new plans?

Klracing only have flange for 6 cyl, so just chop one off, or two off for a om604 Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-08-2014, 03:37 PM #179

As said over, I use the flange for Om606 and cut of one syl Smile

Have done some more again, fitted the front suspension and put the car down on the wheels again to see how it fits Smile

Still have to widen the arms for the steering

[Image: 20140208_145701_zps5a34bd5a.jpg]

[Image: 20140208_145716_zps2fb186a3.jpg]

Got camber?

[Image: 20140208_150053_zps74d631bc.jpg]

and then the turbos came.. Welcome home! Big Grin

[Image: 20140208_150938_zps24ed2f4c.jpg]

Had a little problem with find place for the little turbo, because of the big wastegate exhasthousing

[Image: 20140208_152822_zps1f00d253.jpg]

A test with the big turbo

[Image: 20140208_155812_zps91eb15f9.jpg]

After more planing, the big turbo will be placed more straight, and a bit more back. The wastegate will be very Close to the suspension strut tower, so here I think I have to make more room with a big hammer or something Smile

Here are the wastegate housing on the HX30

[Image: 20140208_160245_zps774c83dd.jpg]

startet the anglegrinder and choped of much of this, so the housing got a slimmer body, so I could fit it as I wanted Smile

[Image: 20140208_173145_zpsb3e5878a.jpg]

The old front suspension, that is sold ant will be picked up tomorrow, good to have some finance :p

[Image: 20140208_174256_zps012bfb89.jpg]

Stamsaas

02-08-2014, 03:37 PM #179

As said over, I use the flange for Om606 and cut of one syl Smile

Have done some more again, fitted the front suspension and put the car down on the wheels again to see how it fits Smile Still have to widen the arms for the steering

[Image: 20140208_145701_zps5a34bd5a.jpg]

[Image: 20140208_145716_zps2fb186a3.jpg]

Got camber?

[Image: 20140208_150053_zps74d631bc.jpg]

and then the turbos came.. Welcome home! Big Grin

[Image: 20140208_150938_zps24ed2f4c.jpg]

Had a little problem with find place for the little turbo, because of the big wastegate exhasthousing

[Image: 20140208_152822_zps1f00d253.jpg]

A test with the big turbo

[Image: 20140208_155812_zps91eb15f9.jpg]

After more planing, the big turbo will be placed more straight, and a bit more back. The wastegate will be very Close to the suspension strut tower, so here I think I have to make more room with a big hammer or something Smile

Here are the wastegate housing on the HX30

[Image: 20140208_160245_zps774c83dd.jpg]

startet the anglegrinder and choped of much of this, so the housing got a slimmer body, so I could fit it as I wanted Smile

Smile

[Image: 20140208_173145_zpsb3e5878a.jpg]

The old front suspension, that is sold ant will be picked up tomorrow, good to have some finance :p

[Image: 20140208_174256_zps012bfb89.jpg]

Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-11-2014, 03:07 PM #180

Startet on the manifold yesterday, looks like it will be some work, but its not impossible Smile

[Image: 20140210_182159_zps37303c63.jpg]

[Image: 20140210_182206_zps2025bff1.jpg]

flange mounted on to solid steel, ready to start

[Image: 20140210_200426_zpsf00758f8.jpg]

Is there something spesial I need to think of when making the "log manifold" or is it just to get it together? Smile

It will be about the same as this, only 5 syl and with external wastegate.. and not that good looking :p

[Image: artech1.jpg]

And one more thing, if I want to move the the RPM stop on the dieselpump from 6000rpm to 7000rpm, do I have to send the pump back to dieselmeken, or can that be modified by myselv? Smile

Stamsaas

02-11-2014, 03:07 PM #180

Startet on the manifold yesterday, looks like it will be some work, but its not impossible Smile

[Image: 20140210_182159_zps37303c63.jpg]

[Image: 20140210_182206_zps2025bff1.jpg]

flange mounted on to solid steel, ready to start

[Image: 20140210_200426_zpsf00758f8.jpg]

Is there something spesial I need to think of when making the "log manifold" or is it just to get it together? Smile
It will be about the same as this, only 5 syl and with external wastegate.. and not that good looking :p

[Image: artech1.jpg]

And one more thing, if I want to move the the RPM stop on the dieselpump from 6000rpm to 7000rpm, do I have to send the pump back to dieselmeken, or can that be modified by myselv? Smile

Simpler=Better

PORTED HEAD

2,127

02-11-2014, 04:47 PM #181

Log manifolds are easy. I think that using all elbows is better than using elbows & tees. The manifold pictured uses both elbows and tees-the inner tees have a radius away from the path of flow-why?

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
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larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Simpler=Better

02-11-2014, 04:47 PM #181

Log manifolds are easy. I think that using all elbows is better than using elbows & tees. The manifold pictured uses both elbows and tees-the inner tees have a radius away from the path of flow-why?

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up

larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-13-2014, 02:13 PM #182

Yeah, I agree on that Smile

I also only have elbows, so I will use them Smile

Thinks I will continue on this tomorrow, and do a bit in the weekend Smile

Stamsaas

02-13-2014, 02:13 PM #182

Yeah, I agree on that Smile I also only have elbows, so I will use them Smile Thinks I will continue on this tomorrow, and do a bit in the weekend Smile

mantahead

Holset

600

02-13-2014, 05:59 PM #183

hi,
would it be better if your front and back logs turned into the turbo flange rather than pointed towards each other?
i know you don't have much room Smile

This post was last modified: 02-13-2014, 06:00 PM by mantahead.

mantahead

02-13-2014, 05:59 PM #183

hi,
would it be better if your front and back logs turned into the turbo flange rather than pointed towards each other?
i know you don't have much room Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-16-2014, 02:37 PM #184

Yeah, I also had the same idee mantahead, but I couldnt make it with the room that was availeble Sad

have now made the manifold almost ready Smile

Had to split the bends to cover the wide ports

[Image: 20140215_181635_zpsa0059996.jpg]

quite a Puzzle :p

[Image: 20140215_203526_zps16f4b46e.jpg]

[Image: 20140215_212450_zps07bf9f7a.jpg]

welded up all the puzzle, and startet on the rest

[Image: 20140216_115329_zpsd070795b.jpg]

all welded

[Image: 20140216_131430_zpsf41f1ac3.jpg]

Put on the turboflenge to see where it had to be to have room for the turbo

[Image: 20140216_143210_zps6818016d.jpg]

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now I didnt take so much more pics before it was time to mount it in the enginebay again

[Image: 20140216_173018_zpsc1abf53a.jpg]

Im having a bit hard time to place the wastegate, as its a bit bigger than I tought.. have to find out something cleaver there.. Has also startet on the exhaust beween the turbos Smile

[Image: 20140216_173024_zps79c284f0.jpg]

Worst parts done Smile

Stamsaas

02-16-2014, 02:37 PM #184

Yeah, I also had the same idee mantahead, but I couldnt make it with the room that was availeble Sad

have now made the manifold almost ready Smile Had to split the bends to cover the wide ports

[Image: 20140215_181635_zpsa0059996.jpg]

quite a Puzzle :p

[Image: 20140215_203526_zps16f4b46e.jpg]

[Image: 20140215_212450_zps07bf9f7a.jpg]

welded up all the puzzle, and startet on the rest

[Image: 20140216_115329_zpsd070795b.jpg]

all welded

[Image: 20140216_131430_zpsf41f1ac3.jpg]

Put on the turboflenge to see where it had to be to have room for the turbo

[Image: 20140216_143210_zps6818016d.jpg] [/URL]

now I didnt take so much more pics before it was time to mount it in the enginebay again

[Image: 20140216_173018_zpsc1abf53a.jpg]

Im having a bit hard time to place the wastegate, as its a bit bigger than I tought.. have to find out something cleaver there.. Has also startet on the exhaust beween the turbos Smile

[Image: 20140216_173024_zps79c284f0.jpg]

Worst parts done Smile

Ksteen2

Holset

304

02-16-2014, 05:25 PM #185

Awesome work!
Love the manifold work Wink

Will be fun to see in working condition Wink

Ksteen2

02-16-2014, 05:25 PM #185

Awesome work!
Love the manifold work Wink
Will be fun to see in working condition Wink

erling66

SuperDieselVan

294

02-17-2014, 04:33 PM #186

You are doing great progress Smile

Please install EMP indicators in the log manifold and between the turbos. Will be interesting to see.
Did the flange stay flat after the welding? what size is the oval holes on the flange? and what ID size is the bends you are using? Looks like they fit the flange quite well Smile

erling66

02-17-2014, 04:33 PM #186

You are doing great progress Smile Please install EMP indicators in the log manifold and between the turbos. Will be interesting to see.
Did the flange stay flat after the welding? what size is the oval holes on the flange? and what ID size is the bends you are using? Looks like they fit the flange quite well Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-18-2014, 02:01 PM #187

(02-16-2014, 05:25 PM)Ksteen2 Awesome work!
Love the manifold work
Will be fun to see in working condition

Thanks!

I think it got quite good at the end, when I started I really didnt know how to solve this manifold :p Yeah, really looking forward to start up on this setup, and how it responds Smile

(02-17-2014, 04:33 PM)erling66 You are doing great progress Please install EMP indicators in the log manifold and between the turbos. Will be interesting to see.
Did the flange stay flat after the welding? what size is the oval holes on the flange? and what ID size is the bends you are using? Looks like they fit the flange quite well

Thanks

EMP = exhaust manifold pressure? If yes, I will install that in the log manifold Smile

not sure if it is any use to have that between the turbos?
The engineflange is about 1mm bendt after Welding, but I have som friends that works with metal that can machine it straigth Smile

Havent measured the holes, but they are wide! the bends are 42mm outside Smile

the holes are some mm lower than the pipe, but I pressed the ends, so the hight matched Smile

Anyone know how long piping there can be from the manifold to wastegate? have some real space issue there! :p

And if I want the dieselpump stop adjusted from 6000rpm to 7000rpm, do I have to send the pump back to dieselmeken (or atleast a pumpshop) or can i adjust that myself? Smile

Stamsaas

02-18-2014, 02:01 PM #187

(02-16-2014, 05:25 PM)Ksteen2 Awesome work!
Love the manifold work
Will be fun to see in working condition

Thanks!

I think it got quite good at the end, when I started I really didnt know how to solve this manifold :p Yeah, really looking forward to start up on this setup, and how it responds Smile

(02-17-2014, 04:33 PM)erling66 You are doing great progress Please install EMP indicators in the log manifold and between the turbos. Will be interesting to see.
Did the flange stay flat after the welding? what size is the oval holes on the flange? and what ID size is the bends you are using? Looks like they fit the flange quite well

Thanks

EMP = exhaust manifold pressure? If yes, I will install that in the log manifold Smile

not sure if it is any use to have that between the turbos?
The engineflange is about 1mm bendt after Welding, but I have som friends that works with metal that can machine it straigth Smile

Havent measured the holes, but they are wide! the bends are 42mm outside Smile

the holes are some mm lower than the pipe, but I pressed the ends, so the hight matched Smile

EDH_Performance

Holset

537

02-18-2014, 10:37 PM #188

(02-18-2014, 02:01 PM)Stamsaas And if I want the dieselpump stop adjusted from 6000rpm to 7000rpm, do I have to send the pump back to dieselmeken (or atleast a pumpshop) or can i adjust that myself?

You can adjust it some yourself, but have you upgraded the valvesprings?? It is no point in ruining your engine because of more rpm`s Big Grin

EDH_Performance

02-18-2014, 10:37 PM #188

(02-18-2014, 02:01 PM)Stamsaas And if I want the dieselpump stop adjusted from 6000rpm to 7000rpm, do I have to send the pump back to dieselmeken (or atleast a pumpshop) or can i adjust that myself?

You can adjust it some yourself, but have you upgraded the valvesprings?? It is no point in ruining your engine because of more rpm`s Big Grin

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-18-2014, 11:42 PM #189

How do I do that? Smile

the valvesprings are beeing swaped with km kams springs.

Stamsaas

02-18-2014, 11:42 PM #189

How do I do that? Smile the valvesprings are beeing swaped with km kams springs.

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-21-2014, 06:55 PM #190

This is the layout, only way to make room :p

[Image: 20140219_182548_zpsc42cbe65.jpg]

Have made the pipe from small to big turbo, it will stay here

[Image: 20140219_193721_zps4d033871.jpg]

[Image: 20140219_193728_zps383eca78.jpg]

[Image: 20140219_193802_zpsd7b57141.jpg]

its about 1cm room from the head to turbo and from turbo to chassie Smile

There was not enough room to make the piping to wastegate in bay, so have just fixed the wastegate where there is room, and will to the fabricating of wastegate pipes With the engine outside Smile

[Image: 20140221_224351_zpse7c1863b.jpg]

startet to take Down the front, to take the engine and gearbox out

[Image: 20140221_224430_zps215074ac.jpg]

Will take the engine out tomorrow Smile

Stamsaas

02-21-2014, 06:55 PM #190

This is the layout, only way to make room :p

[Image: 20140219_182548_zpsc42cbe65.jpg]

Have made the pipe from small to big turbo, it will stay here

[Image: 20140219_193721_zps4d033871.jpg]

[Image: 20140219_193728_zps383eca78.jpg]

[Image: 20140219_193802_zpsd7b57141.jpg]

its about 1cm room from the head to turbo and from turbo to chassie Smile

There was not enough room to make the piping to wastegate in bay, so have just fixed the wastegate where there is room, and will to the fabricating of wastegate pipes With the engine outside Smile

[Image: 20140221_224351_zpse7c1863b.jpg]

startet to take Down the front, to take the engine and gearbox out

[Image: 20140221_224430_zps215074ac.jpg]

Will take the engine out tomorrow Smile

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-23-2014, 07:24 AM #191

yesterday I got the engine ready to be taken out

[Image: 20140222_163509_zps8aceb353.jpg]

and on the way

[Image: 20140222_193813_zpse2f47390.jpg]

and out :p

[Image: 20140222_194106_zps0ae186f4.jpg]

got the engine in the stand, and put on the turbos. Now I will make the rest here Smile

[Image: 20140222_222024_zpsf91d633d.jpg]

[Image: 20140222_222043_zps116fd8e6.jpg]

Have got a 2" v-band kit to the wastegate piping also

And since the front suspenion got a bit wider, I put on the spacers at the back, so it will match the front. Have to do somethings wuth the Arches Big Grin

[Image: 20140222_163521_zpsa2522574.jpg]

[Image: 20140222_163531_zpsd12b078e.jpg]

To be continued Wink

Stamsaas

02-23-2014, 07:24 AM #191

yesterday I got the engine ready to be taken out

[Image: 20140222_163509_zps8aceb353.jpg]

and on the way

[Image: 20140222_193813_zpse2f47390.jpg]

and out :p

[Image: 20140222_194106_zps0ae186f4.jpg]

got the engine in the stand, and put on the turbos. Now I will make the rest here Smile

[Image: 20140222_222024_zpsf91d633d.jpg]

[Image: 20140222_222043_zps116fd8e6.jpg]

Have got a 2" v-band kit to the wastegate piping also

And since the front suspenion got a bit wider, I put on the spacers at the back, so it will match the front. Have to do somethings wuth the Arches Big Grin

[Image: 20140222_163521_zpsa2522574.jpg]

[Image: 20140222_163531_zpsd12b078e.jpg]

To be continued Wink

bigbortha

Naturally-aspirated

18

02-23-2014, 11:36 AM #192

this is coming along very nicely

bigbortha

02-23-2014, 11:36 AM #192

this is coming along very nicely

F.R.A.S

Holset

579

02-24-2014, 07:08 PM #193

Nice, thread, good pictures. Keep up the good work.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

F.R.A.S

02-24-2014, 07:08 PM #193

Nice, thread, good pictures. Keep up the good work.

F-tune Performance [Image: V-band_om606.jpg]

I can help you out with all your manual transmission, clutch, flywheel, intake and exhaust manifold issues.

Simpler=Better

PORTED HEAD

2,127

02-25-2014, 10:35 AM #194

Can you rent a fender roller in your area? That's easiest. Or roll the fender with a baseball bat (look on youtube, it's really really redneck but works)

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up

larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

Simpler=Better

02-25-2014, 10:35 AM #194

Can you rent a fender roller in your area? That's easiest. Or roll the fender with a baseball bat (look on youtube, it's really really redneck but works)

Newbie-read this: Cheap Tricks
617.952-220k-Getting built up

larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?

lgreeley83

Mr. Rumbles

775

02-25-2014, 10:56 AM #195

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ayqAB1AcRQ
rolling

" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."

lgreeley83

02-25-2014, 10:56 AM #195

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ayqAB1AcRQ
rolling

" straighten up that star on the grill, assholes."

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-25-2014, 03:00 PM #196

Thanks guys! Smile

I have a fender roller, so I can try to roll the front Arches, but not sure if it will be enough.. I rolled the fronts a bit on a steel tube before the first trackday also Smile

The rears are anyways bad, so them I will try to make new ones Smile

This post was last modified: 02-25-2014, 03:01 PM by Stamsaas.

Stamsaas

02-25-2014, 03:00 PM #196

Thanks guys! Smile

I have a fender roller, so I can try to roll the front Arches, but not sure if it will be enough.. I rolled the fronts a bit on a steel tube before the first trackday also Smile The rears are anyways bad, so them I will try to make new ones Smile

willbhere4u

Six in a row make her go!

2,507

02-26-2014, 01:06 PM #197

How about these universal fender flairs

http://dtmfiberwerkz.com/access/universa...p-547.html

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

willbhere4u

02-26-2014, 01:06 PM #197

How about these universal fender flairs

http://dtmfiberwerkz.com/access/universa...p-547.html

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-26-2014, 03:15 PM #198

I have a set of universal fenderflares, but I dont quite like the look of them.. But if the time starts to be a problem, then it might be them, just to get something on to start driving Smile

Stamsaas

02-26-2014, 03:15 PM #198

I have a set of universal fenderflares, but I dont quite like the look of them.. But if the time starts to be a problem, then it might be them, just to get something on to start driving Smile

willbhere4u

Six in a row make her go!

2,507

02-26-2014, 05:56 PM #199

theirs always this...

Attached Files

Image(s)

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

willbhere4u

02-26-2014, 05:56 PM #199

theirs always this...

Attached Files

Image(s)

1987 300SDL 6spd manual om606.962 swap project
1985 300td euro 5spd wagon running

Stamsaas

GT2256V

155

02-28-2014, 09:58 AM #200

Finaly got my new calipers, from Nissan skyline GTR

[Image: 20140227_180121_zps254f2906.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_180127_zps59e51ee1.jpg]

about 1cm room to the rim Smile

[Image: 20140227_180404_zps4fc80b6c.jpg]

Discs and pads are ordered, EBC Turbogroove 296x32mm and Redstuff C Smile

Made up the piping from manifold to wastegate Smile

[Image: 20140227_202706_zps049b1c0c.jpg]

and a little fram wastegate to exhaust

[Image: 20140227_204759_zpsa05e8093.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_204805_zpsbbd74bb4.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_204816_zps86ace6ef.jpg]

Stamsaas

02-28-2014, 09:58 AM #200

Finaly got my new calipers, from Nissan skyline GTR

[Image: 20140227_180121_zps254f2906.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_180127_zps59e51ee1.jpg]

about 1cm room to the rim Smile

[Image: 20140227_180404_zps4fc80b6c.jpg]

Discs and pads are ordered, EBC Turbogroove 296x32mm and Redstuff C Smile

Made up the piping from manifold to wastegate Smile

[Image: 20140227_202706_zps049b1c0c.jpg]

and a little fram wastegate to exhaust

[Image: 20140227_204759_zpsa05e8093.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_204805_zpsbbd74bb4.jpg]

[Image: 20140227_204816_zps86ace6ef.jpg]

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