STD Tuning Engine OM605 into 190D straight swap?

OM605 into 190D straight swap?

OM605 into 190D straight swap?

 
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WayneM
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02-24-2014, 04:16 PM #1
Hi guys new here, my name is Wayne from Ireland. I recently purchased a 1993 w201 190D 2.5 auto with OM602.911 engine. My question is if I buy a om605 from a c250 will this go straight in useing the mechanical pump and keeping the om602 automatic gearbox?
WayneM
02-24-2014, 04:16 PM #1

Hi guys new here, my name is Wayne from Ireland. I recently purchased a 1993 w201 190D 2.5 auto with OM602.911 engine. My question is if I buy a om605 from a c250 will this go straight in useing the mechanical pump and keeping the om602 automatic gearbox?

mario
TA 0301

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02-24-2014, 04:24 PM #2
Hey Wayne what part of the emerald isle are you from but I think it will fit as are you getting a whole car or just the engine.
mario
02-24-2014, 04:24 PM #2

Hey Wayne what part of the emerald isle are you from but I think it will fit as are you getting a whole car or just the engine.

WayneM
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02-24-2014, 04:28 PM #3
Hey didnt think there would be many Irish on here Smile im from kildare yourself? Plan is to get full car as they can be got cheap anyway, id like to do a manual convertion but a bit of power would do for now.
WayneM
02-24-2014, 04:28 PM #3

Hey didnt think there would be many Irish on here Smile im from kildare yourself? Plan is to get full car as they can be got cheap anyway, id like to do a manual convertion but a bit of power would do for now.

mario
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02-24-2014, 04:31 PM #4
I am only up the road from you in Laois and I have an om605 turbo in a w124 if you want a look. I am hoping to have the 722.6 5 speed in her soon as I got the controller off Olefeger on here. The controller is handy as it controls boost but I have a pressure wastegate if you need one.
mario
02-24-2014, 04:31 PM #4

I am only up the road from you in Laois and I have an om605 turbo in a w124 if you want a look. I am hoping to have the 722.6 5 speed in her soon as I got the controller off Olefeger on here. The controller is handy as it controls boost but I have a pressure wastegate if you need one.

WayneM
Naturally-aspirated

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02-24-2014, 04:31 PM #5
Some pictures! Tow bar since removed
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(02-24-2014, 04:31 PM)mario I am only up the road from you in Laois and I have an om605 turbo in a w124 if you want a look. I am hoping to have the 722.6 5 speed in her soon as I got the controller off Olefeger on here. The controller is handy as it controls boost but I have a pressure wastegate if you need one.

Very nice, can you spot the w124 in my picture? Currently two w124 estates here one is a friends and one is my fathers. Did you do the om605 convertion yourself? Yes would be interested in seeing how it sits in it
This post was last modified: 02-24-2014, 04:35 PM by WayneM.
WayneM
02-24-2014, 04:31 PM #5

Some pictures! Tow bar since removed
[Image: image_zps8d022328.jpg]
[Image: image_zpsfae59b33.jpg]


(02-24-2014, 04:31 PM)mario I am only up the road from you in Laois and I have an om605 turbo in a w124 if you want a look. I am hoping to have the 722.6 5 speed in her soon as I got the controller off Olefeger on here. The controller is handy as it controls boost but I have a pressure wastegate if you need one.

Very nice, can you spot the w124 in my picture? Currently two w124 estates here one is a friends and one is my fathers. Did you do the om605 convertion yourself? Yes would be interested in seeing how it sits in it

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
02-25-2014, 02:04 AM #6
I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
02-25-2014, 02:04 AM #6

I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Stevo-trendy
K26-2

41
02-25-2014, 03:37 AM #7
How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?
Stevo-trendy
02-25-2014, 03:37 AM #7

How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?

Eric78
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02-25-2014, 04:15 AM #8
(02-25-2014, 03:37 AM)Stevo-trendy How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?
Engine mounts aren't usually an issue if installing into an originally diesel equiped 190 but the steering box is only an issue for us RHD countries, most of the posters on this forum are LHD.
Eric78
02-25-2014, 04:15 AM #8

(02-25-2014, 03:37 AM)Stevo-trendy How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?
Engine mounts aren't usually an issue if installing into an originally diesel equiped 190 but the steering box is only an issue for us RHD countries, most of the posters on this forum are LHD.

mario
TA 0301

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02-25-2014, 05:17 AM #9
(02-25-2014, 03:37 AM)Stevo-trendy How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?

Is a w201 the same as a w124 in the steering box area
mario
02-25-2014, 05:17 AM #9

(02-25-2014, 03:37 AM)Stevo-trendy How are people tackling the steering box & engine mounts issues ?

Is a w201 the same as a w124 in the steering box area

WayneM
Naturally-aspirated

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02-25-2014, 05:17 AM #10
(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

Is the 606 a tight fit in them? I must check that, mine is already 5 cylinder so 605 shouldnt be a problem. Are you having problem with the turbo hitting the steering box?
WayneM
02-25-2014, 05:17 AM #10

(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

Is the 606 a tight fit in them? I must check that, mine is already 5 cylinder so 605 shouldnt be a problem. Are you having problem with the turbo hitting the steering box?

TurboWalt
K26-2

33
02-25-2014, 06:16 AM #11
(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

How is the 722.6 fitting?
TurboWalt
02-25-2014, 06:16 AM #11

(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

How is the 722.6 fitting?

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
02-25-2014, 12:26 PM #12
Very tight, possible lump hammer relief on the trans tunnel needed as the belhousing is bigger because of the torque converter, slow progress at the mo, no fuel at the injectors with our new 7.5 element pump..

(02-25-2014, 05:17 AM)WayneM
(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

Is the 606 a tight fit in them? I must check that, mine is already 5 cylinder so 605 shouldnt be a problem. Are you having problem with the turbo hitting the steering box?


Turbo clears (forwards of) steering box, down pipe looks like it will need to go up and over, and we will probably relieve the exhaust relief in the firewall a bit because a 2.5" DP will fit but probably contact and make vibrationy metal-metal horrible noises otherwise,.
This post was last modified: 02-25-2014, 12:27 PM by Hario'.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
02-25-2014, 12:26 PM #12

Very tight, possible lump hammer relief on the trans tunnel needed as the belhousing is bigger because of the torque converter, slow progress at the mo, no fuel at the injectors with our new 7.5 element pump..


(02-25-2014, 05:17 AM)WayneM
(02-25-2014, 02:04 AM)Hario I am helping friends fit a 606/722.6 into their 190 which came with a 1.8 4 cyl so you should be fine, I believe the 2.5d have the advantage of coming with the removeable slam pannel and forward mounted rad already?

Is the 606 a tight fit in them? I must check that, mine is already 5 cylinder so 605 shouldnt be a problem. Are you having problem with the turbo hitting the steering box?


Turbo clears (forwards of) steering box, down pipe looks like it will need to go up and over, and we will probably relieve the exhaust relief in the firewall a bit because a 2.5" DP will fit but probably contact and make vibrationy metal-metal horrible noises otherwise,.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

Eric78
GT2559V

198
02-25-2014, 11:51 PM #13
A while a go user here from the UK who put an om605.96X into his 190 did a write up on installing rack & pinion steering into it, although it was 5 cyl in the first place he just couldn't get the down pipe from the turbo past the steering box.
This post was last modified: 02-25-2014, 11:57 PM by Eric78.
Eric78
02-25-2014, 11:51 PM #13

A while a go user here from the UK who put an om605.96X into his 190 did a write up on installing rack & pinion steering into it, although it was 5 cyl in the first place he just couldn't get the down pipe from the turbo past the steering box.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
02-26-2014, 07:49 AM #14
Well the standard 190 has a relief in the firewall for the stock 2" DP to fit between it and the steering box so I dont see how our 2.5" Holset DP won't fit in the same place. Will be tight but will firmly (not solidly) mount the DP to the chassis so there is no contact to firewall. And possible flex section from exducer to join DP.

Got to be easier than converting to rack sheesh!




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
02-26-2014, 07:49 AM #14

Well the standard 190 has a relief in the firewall for the stock 2" DP to fit between it and the steering box so I dont see how our 2.5" Holset DP won't fit in the same place. Will be tight but will firmly (not solidly) mount the DP to the chassis so there is no contact to firewall. And possible flex section from exducer to join DP.

Got to be easier than converting to rack sheesh!





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

 
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