STD Tuning Engine Easy to swap elements from om606 IP to om603 IP?

Easy to swap elements from om606 IP to om603 IP?

Easy to swap elements from om606 IP to om603 IP?

 
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hooblah
Holset

401
09-18-2013, 05:09 PM #1
Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?
hooblah
09-18-2013, 05:09 PM #1

Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?

zeeman
Holset

444
09-18-2013, 06:15 PM #2
(09-18-2013, 05:09 PM)hooblah Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?

It is not rocket science but should be done by a injection pump shop and needs to be calibrated.
zeeman
09-18-2013, 06:15 PM #2

(09-18-2013, 05:09 PM)hooblah Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?

It is not rocket science but should be done by a injection pump shop and needs to be calibrated.

Tito
Holset

354
09-19-2013, 03:09 AM #3
(09-18-2013, 06:15 PM)zeeman
(09-18-2013, 05:09 PM)hooblah Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?

It is not rocket science but should be done by a injection pump shop and needs to be calibrated.

I swapped 7mm elements in my 603 pump myself. It's possible and not that hard. However your pump needs calibrating by a diesel shop.
Tito
09-19-2013, 03:09 AM #3

(09-18-2013, 06:15 PM)zeeman
(09-18-2013, 05:09 PM)hooblah Ive got an electronic om606 IP and would like to swap the elements into my om603 IP. Is this an easy job or should I not bother?

It is not rocket science but should be done by a injection pump shop and needs to be calibrated.

I swapped 7mm elements in my 603 pump myself. It's possible and not that hard. However your pump needs calibrating by a diesel shop.

hooblah
Holset

401
09-19-2013, 06:42 AM #4
To what spec does it need calibrating?
hooblah
09-19-2013, 06:42 AM #4

To what spec does it need calibrating?

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
09-20-2013, 10:07 AM #5
there are 2 categories of car owners. the first category actually like their car engine and wants it to run as smooth and be as balanced as possible. And they also like it to use as little fuel as possible and last a long time.
The second category don't care about any of these properties as long as they get more power.
So if you belong in the second category, go ahead and change them yourself.

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
09-20-2013, 10:07 AM #5

there are 2 categories of car owners. the first category actually like their car engine and wants it to run as smooth and be as balanced as possible. And they also like it to use as little fuel as possible and last a long time.
The second category don't care about any of these properties as long as they get more power.
So if you belong in the second category, go ahead and change them yourself.


HuhCoolTongue

hooblah
Holset

401
09-21-2013, 06:59 AM #6
Whats that supposed to mean?
hooblah
09-21-2013, 06:59 AM #6

Whats that supposed to mean?

erling66
SuperDieselVan

294
09-21-2013, 11:31 AM #7
(09-21-2013, 06:59 AM)hooblah Whats that supposed to mean?
It means that you will not be able to adjust the pump yourself and your engine will run like crap but you will probably get more power

HuhCoolTongue
erling66
09-21-2013, 11:31 AM #7

(09-21-2013, 06:59 AM)hooblah Whats that supposed to mean?
It means that you will not be able to adjust the pump yourself and your engine will run like crap but you will probably get more power


HuhCoolTongue

hooblah
Holset

401
09-21-2013, 01:34 PM #8
Well obviously I would get it calibrated by a specialist, but I need to know what parameters it would need to be calibrated to. If someone could supply that info I would be most grateful.
hooblah
09-21-2013, 01:34 PM #8

Well obviously I would get it calibrated by a specialist, but I need to know what parameters it would need to be calibrated to. If someone could supply that info I would be most grateful.

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
07-08-2014, 09:00 AM #9
ANy diesel specialist can balance the elements for quantity, and you can adjust min / max flow.

They would need to have experience with MBZ diesel engines to know how to modify the govenor though IMHO.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
07-08-2014, 09:00 AM #9

ANy diesel specialist can balance the elements for quantity, and you can adjust min / max flow.

They would need to have experience with MBZ diesel engines to know how to modify the govenor though IMHO.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

hooblah
Holset

401
07-08-2014, 11:47 AM #10
I have spoken to a Bosch diesel specialist, they are able to do the swap for me but they have also told me that it will need to be calibrated, but I must tell them how I want it calibrating! You'd assume they'd know but apparently not :/

Clearly I don't know, so I was hoping someone here would be able to tell me.

Hario in what way does the governor need modifying?
This post was last modified: 07-08-2014, 11:48 AM by hooblah.
hooblah
07-08-2014, 11:47 AM #10

I have spoken to a Bosch diesel specialist, they are able to do the swap for me but they have also told me that it will need to be calibrated, but I must tell them how I want it calibrating! You'd assume they'd know but apparently not :/

Clearly I don't know, so I was hoping someone here would be able to tell me.

Hario in what way does the governor need modifying?

Hario'
C300TD Wagon (W202)

894
07-09-2014, 04:22 PM #11
I'm not sure as I'm retaining the EDC pump in my c250 so I didn't learn.

I think the idle quantity needs to be reset to standard, I literally read it the other day in a dieselmeken post, 14cc IIRC.

And the fueling curve will be different with different elements, the govenor controlls this, hence it needs modifying, I'm sure by a specialist with experience with the particular application. BEcause its fly weights, springs and magic.
This post was last modified: 07-10-2014, 02:24 AM by Hario'.




Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]
Hario'
07-09-2014, 04:22 PM #11

I'm not sure as I'm retaining the EDC pump in my c250 so I didn't learn.

I think the idle quantity needs to be reset to standard, I literally read it the other day in a dieselmeken post, 14cc IIRC.

And the fueling curve will be different with different elements, the govenor controlls this, hence it needs modifying, I'm sure by a specialist with experience with the particular application. BEcause its fly weights, springs and magic.





Installed:

OM606/722.6, big IC, W220 brakes.
Planned:
DIY manifold, compound, 722.6 controller, built IP.
[i]Less rust.. 
[/i]

baldur
Fast

509
07-09-2014, 06:20 PM #12
On the subject of 6mm elements. Are the OM606 elements the same as the OM605 turbo elements found in the electronic pump?

Baldur Gislason

baldur
07-09-2014, 06:20 PM #12

On the subject of 6mm elements. Are the OM606 elements the same as the OM605 turbo elements found in the electronic pump?


Baldur Gislason

Petar
7.5mm M pump

459
07-10-2014, 01:31 AM #13
Yes they are
Petar
07-10-2014, 01:31 AM #13

Yes they are

hooblah
Holset

401
07-11-2014, 08:09 PM #14
So it looks like I need the test sheet for a pump with 6mm elements in order to achieve the correct calibration. Anyone know where I can source this?
hooblah
07-11-2014, 08:09 PM #14

So it looks like I need the test sheet for a pump with 6mm elements in order to achieve the correct calibration. Anyone know where I can source this?

barrote
Superturbo

1,627
07-12-2014, 05:47 AM #15
if u can find one, lets say "the governor calibration sheet for 80 mm3" max output, 6000RPM high idle, low idle at 10mm3, values for alda increase, i´m interested as well.
BUT i did that swap, and left my governor as it was, achieved 18 percent increase in fueling at max output. for the moment is enough for my engine, soon soon i´ll be in another project and i will need some more fuel.
Mr Dieselmeken, can provide that sheet, he´s been doing that for long time, maybe he will be willing to share that info, that would be great. why don´t ask him to.
Regards to u all

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barrote
07-12-2014, 05:47 AM #15

if u can find one, lets say "the governor calibration sheet for 80 mm3" max output, 6000RPM high idle, low idle at 10mm3, values for alda increase, i´m interested as well.
BUT i did that swap, and left my governor as it was, achieved 18 percent increase in fueling at max output. for the moment is enough for my engine, soon soon i´ll be in another project and i will need some more fuel.
Mr Dieselmeken, can provide that sheet, he´s been doing that for long time, maybe he will be willing to share that info, that would be great. why don´t ask him to.
Regards to u all


FD,
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