crappy farm building into mercedes garage project
crappy farm building into mercedes garage project
want to turn this glorious structure into my play room shop area.
apart from actually being fairly water tight, its about as primitive as you can get, but I think I can make it awesome given a decade or two plus unlimited cash.
open canvas now, looking for ideas on making it a kick ass small shop. Biggest initial issue is I need expand the roof height over one bay to fit shop equipment.
The building has some cool history. Doing local research ive discovered it was probably a loading dock for hay wagons or whatnot to load materials and supplies. The immediate owner roofed it over, it was originally just a stone cut out in the hill with a lean too roof and evolved into this.
half of it is dry stone rock wall. on the inside gonna be perfect for welding and grinding projects, also mostly underground on the back side.
back side, good ramp for a dirt bike. Too bad you end up in a deadly rock garden -
inside-
also the cool part is that its pretty private. Hard to get to the front of this building, so people peeking in and stealing stuff is remote. Arrow shows the way out-
All ideas and tips welcome!
Thing is skinned in OSB thats been ruined by water, so I have to reside it completely and properly. Wiring appears to be a buried extension cord cut and wired into a pair of light bulbs.
(07-10-2014, 03:57 PM)97e300 You going to put a lift in there?
(07-10-2014, 03:57 PM)97e300 You going to put a lift in there?
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The guys in Europe have pretty sweet shops in rural areas.
You might be surprised at how little -if any- you have to raise the roof. I have a two poster in the right side of this...
and all that was required was removal and strengthening of the interior roof supports. It needed 12" minimum hard concrete + re-bar in the floor for the hoist footings
And I recently added this which makes life easy
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(07-10-2014, 05:57 PM)w123love garagejournal . com !!!
The guys in Europe have pretty sweet shops in rural areas.
(07-11-2014, 05:34 AM)Druk You might be surprised at how little -if any- you have to raise the roof. I have a two poster in the right side of this...
and all that was required was removal and strengthening of the interior roof supports. It needed 12" minimum hard concrete + re-bar in the floor for the hoist footings
(07-10-2014, 05:57 PM)w123love garagejournal . com !!!
The guys in Europe have pretty sweet shops in rural areas.
(07-11-2014, 05:34 AM)Druk You might be surprised at how little -if any- you have to raise the roof. I have a two poster in the right side of this...
and all that was required was removal and strengthening of the interior roof supports. It needed 12" minimum hard concrete + re-bar in the floor for the hoist footings
If you are going to pour concrete, save your money and spend it on floor heat!
Makes everything so much nicer to work on when its the same temperature
(07-11-2014, 06:58 AM)MFSuper90 If you are going to pour concrete, save your money and spend it on floor heat!
Makes everything so much nicer to work on when its the same temperature
(07-11-2014, 06:58 AM)MFSuper90 If you are going to pour concrete, save your money and spend it on floor heat!
Makes everything so much nicer to work on when its the same temperature
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
You need to run PEX tubing in the floor for the heat, and keep the heat away form the lift areas.
You can put a heat exchanger on your generator's exhaust to heat the water in the floor.
Oh, you don't have a generator? Keep your eyes peeled for a MEP-002 or MEP-003 generator. Both run 120/240/208 3ph, air cooled diesel, and can anecdotally put out 10kW/20kW respectively (rated for 5kW and 10kW). Fuel consumption is .5-1gph for the little guy and .75-1.5 for the big guy (ish)
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Needs an old ass International Harvester refrigerator (or some other old fridge) in there with a sticker of some sort on the front telling you to wear goggles while grinding or "if you're gonna be a turd go lay in the yard" kind of thing, you get the idea lol
Get the right HVAC system in place first. My garage in the summer is a screen door to hell and during the one month we have cold weather in S.C., it's too miserable to enter.
(07-11-2014, 08:22 PM)Greazzer Get the right HVAC system in place first. My garage in the summer is a screen door to hell and during the one month we have cold weather in S.C., it's too miserable to enter.
(07-11-2014, 08:22 PM)Greazzer Get the right HVAC system in place first. My garage in the summer is a screen door to hell and during the one month we have cold weather in S.C., it's too miserable to enter.
Just an idea. Back when I was "young", pre-parachute injury, and had a ton of energy, I had a 1954 Packard convertible which I was restoring. Career and other issues forced me to sell. HOWEVER, during the 2 years that I played with that car, I heated a weekend built garage which was 16x24 with an oil drum on it's side and this cheap kit which made it a wood burning stove. Had legs, flue, et cet. I think the kit was like $10 but that was the early 90's. Not sure they still sell the kit. The walls had no insulation, they were chip board, et cet, That oil drum homemade heater would force you out of there it go so hot and it would heat up that uninsulated space in 15 minutes. I lived in Delaware at the time and we used to have some nasty winters.
interesting idea. there is an old wood stove that was in the house that was functional, guy had it hooked up to heat an attached loft space.
i might drag that sucker down and set it up as a source of heat.
my only concern is fire. im just a little leery of being done for the night and still having a stove red hot and needing to cool down for a while.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
Wood stoves are fine so long as:
-The exhaust goes away with a nice slope so it vents properly
-Nothing around it can get set on fire
Our shop has a woodstove, nothing within 5ft or so, keep it clean, and you're fine.
larsalan I guess I need to look at this stupid ass drip shit. What you have to like mess with those elements on the pump? What a fucking hassle. then use some wire to hold the throttle open or some shit?
(07-12-2014, 09:37 PM)Simpler=Better Wood stoves are fine so long as:
-The exhaust goes away with a nice slope so it vents properly
-Nothing around it can get set on fire
Our shop has a woodstove, nothing within 5ft or so, keep it clean, and you're fine.
(07-12-2014, 09:37 PM)Simpler=Better Wood stoves are fine so long as:
-The exhaust goes away with a nice slope so it vents properly
-Nothing around it can get set on fire
Our shop has a woodstove, nothing within 5ft or so, keep it clean, and you're fine.
(07-10-2014, 03:12 PM)JB3 ...
apart from actually being fairly water tight, its about as primitive as you can get..
Looks like a very nice piece of property you've acquired. At some point, you should post up a diagram of the floor plan with measurements. i.e measurements of the vehicle parking area and planned work area. Then we all could go crazy on how you should arrange your shop.
(07-10-2014, 03:12 PM)JB3 ...
apart from actually being fairly water tight, its about as primitive as you can get..
(07-13-2014, 10:57 AM)DeliveryValve Looks like a very nice piece of property you've acquired. At some point, you should post up a diagram of the floor plan with measurements. i.e measurements of the vehicle parking area and planned work area. Then we all could go crazy on how you should arrange your shop.
(07-10-2014, 03:12 PM)JB3 ...
apart from actually being fairly water tight, its about as primitive as you can get..
I like to know what happens when you get a torrential down pour on that hill side. Where does all the water go? Hopefully not through the doors!
(07-13-2014, 10:57 AM)DeliveryValve Looks like a very nice piece of property you've acquired. At some point, you should post up a diagram of the floor plan with measurements. i.e measurements of the vehicle parking area and planned work area. Then we all could go crazy on how you should arrange your shop.
(07-10-2014, 03:12 PM)JB3 ...
apart from actually being fairly water tight, its about as primitive as you can get..
I like to know what happens when you get a torrential down pour on that hill side. Where does all the water go? Hopefully not through the doors!
Have you thought about lowering the floor level into the ground to get clearance rather than raising the roof? It might be an 'easier' option..
(02-19-2015, 11:17 AM)Hario Have you thought about lowering the floor level into the ground to get clearance rather than raising the roof? It might be an 'easier' option..
(02-19-2015, 11:17 AM)Hario Have you thought about lowering the floor level into the ground to get clearance rather than raising the roof? It might be an 'easier' option..
took a great deal of time, but I have some progress
first gravel dumped-
compacted with a strip for a lift-
found an old schoo stone mason to mortar all the stone walls
finsihed-
then some concrete poured and even have an apron now for the front of the building-
and finished-
been curing for a couple days, waiting 25 days before rolling a car down there and trying to get it into the building
time for stage 2, making this water tight