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om606 tractorpuller

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appie
Naturally-aspirated

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07-20-2014, 05:13 AM #1


The ford tractor has a om606 with 7mm m pump, manifold made by me and a holset he451v as airpump..
It seems to burn the fuel cleanly. To bad the waterhose popt off, now the cooland comes out via a exhaust runner. Hopefully only a gasget....

What is the sharp noise running idle btw?...
Comments are welkom Smile
This post was last modified: 07-21-2014, 02:36 PM by winmutt.
appie
07-20-2014, 05:13 AM #1



The ford tractor has a om606 with 7mm m pump, manifold made by me and a holset he451v as airpump..
It seems to burn the fuel cleanly. To bad the waterhose popt off, now the cooland comes out via a exhaust runner. Hopefully only a gasget....

What is the sharp noise running idle btw?...
Comments are welkom Smile

anjay
1998 E300 Turbodiesel

57
07-20-2014, 07:09 PM #2
I assume that yours is in cloud of steam at the end of the ran. The noise when you release gas pedal is turbo surge. Basically engines rpm drops faster than boost and compressed air instead being inhaled by engine is escaping throw turbos compressor. Not really desireable but hard to overcome when you go from flat out fully loaded to idle.

1977 300D for parts? Just a pile of rust but still runs!
1984 190D 2.2 - gone to better home
1987 Dodge Maxivan with OM603 and Goran’s 7.5 backroads terror
1987 300TD - tinker toy
1989 300TE - parts
1991 300TE - backyards decor
1991 300TD - Barrote’s 7.5
1992 300TD - semi-STD(Goran modified 7.5 ip but still with factory turbo+at)
1998 E300TD - dd with DSL1 now
1998 ML320 - snow ride
2014 Sprinter 2500 - Malone’s tune + pedal box
anjay
07-20-2014, 07:09 PM #2

I assume that yours is in cloud of steam at the end of the ran. The noise when you release gas pedal is turbo surge. Basically engines rpm drops faster than boost and compressed air instead being inhaled by engine is escaping throw turbos compressor. Not really desireable but hard to overcome when you go from flat out fully loaded to idle.


1977 300D for parts? Just a pile of rust but still runs!
1984 190D 2.2 - gone to better home
1987 Dodge Maxivan with OM603 and Goran’s 7.5 backroads terror
1987 300TD - tinker toy
1989 300TE - parts
1991 300TE - backyards decor
1991 300TD - Barrote’s 7.5
1992 300TD - semi-STD(Goran modified 7.5 ip but still with factory turbo+at)
1998 E300TD - dd with DSL1 now
1998 ML320 - snow ride
2014 Sprinter 2500 - Malone’s tune + pedal box

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
07-21-2014, 12:49 PM #3
Very cool. I pull tractors as well here in the States.
Sounds like it is running 6-7000rpm?

Is the class pretty much a "run whatever you brought" style of class?
It had everything from turbodiesels to V8's Tongue

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-21-2014, 12:49 PM #3

Very cool. I pull tractors as well here in the States.
Sounds like it is running 6-7000rpm?

Is the class pretty much a "run whatever you brought" style of class?
It had everything from turbodiesels to V8's Tongue


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

appie
Naturally-aspirated

19
07-21-2014, 02:16 PM #4
hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel
appie
07-21-2014, 02:16 PM #4

hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel

Tito
Holset

354
07-21-2014, 02:44 PM #5
I'm sorry guys, it's more easy to do technical talk in our language....

Bedoel je een nagelend geluid zoals in dit filmpje?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebYhuqfevE

Dat is redelijk normaal. Komt door je grotere brandstofpomp. Waar heb je de pomp laten bouwen? Of zelf gedaan? Het probleem is snellere injectietijd waardoor de zuiger te vroeg naar de andere kant van de cilinder word "geslagen". Dat knallen van de zuiger tegen de wand is een dieselklop. Normaal heb je een foefje (desaxatie) wat er voor zorgt dat je zuiger al aan de andere kant van de cilinder ligt, als de verbranding begint. Ik heb het met mijn zelfgebouwde pomp ook. Nagelt als een gek. Ik kan het alleen in jou video niet goed horen...

I'll try to translate...

You mean a nailing/knocking sound like in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebYhuqfevE

That's fairly normal. It's because more fuel is injected. Where did you get your pump build? Or did you do it yourself? The problem is faster injection timing, causing the piston to hit the other side of the cilinder wall too early. The noise caused bij the slapping is referred as "diesel knock" (I don't know if it translates like that). Normally there's a little trick (desaxatie, don't know the translation) that makes the piston sit on the right side of the cilinder, before combustion begins. I've got the same thing with mij DIY pump. Knocking like crazy. I can't really hear it in the video you posted...
This post was last modified: 07-21-2014, 02:45 PM by Tito.
Tito
07-21-2014, 02:44 PM #5

I'm sorry guys, it's more easy to do technical talk in our language....

Bedoel je een nagelend geluid zoals in dit filmpje?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebYhuqfevE

Dat is redelijk normaal. Komt door je grotere brandstofpomp. Waar heb je de pomp laten bouwen? Of zelf gedaan? Het probleem is snellere injectietijd waardoor de zuiger te vroeg naar de andere kant van de cilinder word "geslagen". Dat knallen van de zuiger tegen de wand is een dieselklop. Normaal heb je een foefje (desaxatie) wat er voor zorgt dat je zuiger al aan de andere kant van de cilinder ligt, als de verbranding begint. Ik heb het met mijn zelfgebouwde pomp ook. Nagelt als een gek. Ik kan het alleen in jou video niet goed horen...

I'll try to translate...

You mean a nailing/knocking sound like in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bebYhuqfevE

That's fairly normal. It's because more fuel is injected. Where did you get your pump build? Or did you do it yourself? The problem is faster injection timing, causing the piston to hit the other side of the cilinder wall too early. The noise caused bij the slapping is referred as "diesel knock" (I don't know if it translates like that). Normally there's a little trick (desaxatie, don't know the translation) that makes the piston sit on the right side of the cilinder, before combustion begins. I've got the same thing with mij DIY pump. Knocking like crazy. I can't really hear it in the video you posted...

Turbo
Holset

489
07-21-2014, 03:40 PM #6
Hi Appie
what boost do you run?
exhaust back pressure?
temperature after intercooler and after turbo?
exhaust temperature?

BR


(07-21-2014, 02:16 PM)appie hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel
Turbo
07-21-2014, 03:40 PM #6

Hi Appie
what boost do you run?
exhaust back pressure?
temperature after intercooler and after turbo?
exhaust temperature?

BR


(07-21-2014, 02:16 PM)appie hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel

MFSuper90
Budget Builder

1,533
07-21-2014, 04:04 PM #7
(07-21-2014, 02:16 PM)appie hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel
I believe I have seen that tractor on youtube, it is in a 35 Massey Ferguson. I am a Ferguson man myself Big Grin

'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         
MFSuper90
07-21-2014, 04:04 PM #7

(07-21-2014, 02:16 PM)appie hey.
The surge in am aware off, no big problem. I mean the short snappy high pitch sound when idlling...
As for the rules: 1400 kg max, 3.6 liter max. idd diesel intercooler and turbo, gasoline NA. the body has to be 25 years or older.
It's on youtube under deoldstock...
This tractor used to run a 3.6 audi v8, but i talked the owner un using diesel again Big Grin
There is also a 1800 class, running duramax.......Angel
I believe I have seen that tractor on youtube, it is in a 35 Massey Ferguson. I am a Ferguson man myself Big Grin


'82 300D -3" straight pipe, ALDA deleted, 3in1 glowshift gauge, HX30, egr-less manifold, A/W intercooler Big Grin
'14 Ram 6.7l cummins -G56 handshaker, wishing it was deleted         

appie
Naturally-aspirated

19
07-22-2014, 03:28 PM #8
Hey Tito.
The element are via van der kolk dpp, and build by a lokal..quistion is because cil5 is getting hotter than the olders... injectors a changed,pump check and ever iddle cc set back and still getting hotter than the older.
When the engine is up and running i'll try to check timing via a timinglight with diesel pickup..

The pump now gives 150cc... next winter we'll need more..
For the themps i'm sorry,the dataloger did not record, and i was personel ad vasteras Big Grin
But boost is 2.7..
This post was last modified: 07-22-2014, 03:28 PM by appie.
appie
07-22-2014, 03:28 PM #8

Hey Tito.
The element are via van der kolk dpp, and build by a lokal..quistion is because cil5 is getting hotter than the olders... injectors a changed,pump check and ever iddle cc set back and still getting hotter than the older.
When the engine is up and running i'll try to check timing via a timinglight with diesel pickup..

The pump now gives 150cc... next winter we'll need more..
For the themps i'm sorry,the dataloger did not record, and i was personel ad vasteras Big Grin
But boost is 2.7..

 
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